"We know the voice of the Lord." Not true. "We feel enormous respect for
other faiths." Not true. Baptism for the dead is not "a loving outreach
for all the world." Those who reject baptism will suffer 1000 years in
HELL. The "sacred" marriage between "a man and a woman" was destroyed by
Brigham Young and his successors by plural marriage, which was NOT Joseph
Smith's desire. And for each successful attempt to stop rain by prayer,
there are a thousand times when it doesn't work. The leadership of the
Mormon Church has proven that they are not "prophets, seers and
revelators," as they claim. They do not represent what Joseph Smith and
the Book of Mormon are all about. (The honest in heart will figure this
out.) They bring dishonor instead.
+Rod Vessels Joseph Smith brought dishonor to him self!  Liar and con man.  Today's prophets do not stand a chance against truth.  Easy to spot them as just men and not even good ones. You must be kidding about not accepting your baptism will suffer 1000 years in hell LOL. CULT MUCH? Sounds like Warren Jeffs him self wait he is in prison. That sign of nail hand shake is Satans hand shake and very well may send people straight to hell. Nail is known as Satan. Your fake priesthood has no authority, people waisting there time. Jesus Christ has the authority MOTARD.
Those are false apostles - not teaching the Jesus of the Bible, but a false
religion that sound enough like Christianity that people are fooled, just
as Satan's intended when he suckered Joseph Smith into creating a false
religion with a demo moroni.
+Jim Caponzi First of all you are NOT speaking Truth in Love so I question your heart and if you are really a Born Again Christian. Second, the Catholic Church is full of heresies which you are probably not aware of AND it is not the first and real Christian Church. It came about 400 AD, AFTER the Apostolic Church and when Rome merged real Christianity with pagan Babylonian and Roman beliefs which became the Catholic church. Read A Woman Rides the Beast by Dave Hunt if you want Catholic history. The only thing the Catholic church has going for it is it at least believes in the right Jesus, where the Mormon church does not. Do you read your Bible daily? Do you really know what it says in it? Can you tell me what the Gospel is?
+Sam SmithSave it liar, the mormons have been studied and found out by so many researchers throughout the decades many whom know that God sends out to help expose satans mormon children, everything about mormonism is blasphemous and evil...your people are being exposed more and more every single day...and you mormons want a contest between the Catholics and the mormons let me promise you this, the ONE AND ONLY TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL WIN OVER THE MORMONS CHURCH HANDS DOWN...
+Sam Smith While we must show respect to you, Mormonism is a false religion and a cult. We are only telling you this so you can be Born Again and saved so you will see Heaven. I know as my wife left the Mormon church and accepted the REAL Jesus of the Bible and was Saved. The Mormon Jesus IS NOT the Jesus of the Bible and when you come to know this you will RUN from the Mormon Church. The Catholic church is not much better as they distort the Bible, but at least believe in the Jesus of the Bible. They get that right.
We are not evil at all. You have a false knowledge of the church as many people do I'm not saying your bad or anything because your not and my grandparents are Catholics so I'm family in the teachings of the church and some of the teachings are just wrong like if a child dies before being baptised the go to hell what kind of doctrine is that how can a child be accountable when they are still learning right from wrong I don't think Jesus could abandon a child like that.
+Sam SmithJesus himself pointed out how wrong the pharisees were... yeah satan would tell people to pray to God, BECAUSE HE IS KNOWN TO POSE AS A FOLLOWER OF GOD AND JESUS TO TRY AND FOOL GODS CHILDREN JUST LIKE HIS MORMON CHILDREN TRY AND DO yet both mormons and satan fail..
And by the way I don't think satan would be telling us to pray to God and do all the things Jesus told us to do and past prophets so forgive me for saying this but your point is kind of invalid.
If Jesus really is the head of your church then try to act like it hey mate your not changing anyone's life by speaking to them in that manner obviously your not and haven't been listening the the saviours words.
+Sam SmithHere's some respect for your so called church of joseph smith mormonism SPIT at all you mormons hows that for respect, don't you ever tell me to respect a group of people who trash God and Jesus name making up stories about God and Jesus... and I know why the title of the church is the church of Jesus Christ because satan chose joseph smith as his side kick to help go out and try to trick Gods children, joseph smith finds an empty building stamps Jesus name on it and claims walla here's Jesus church now where's my tithings. God said that if a prophet makes just one false prophecy then that man is a liar, joseph smith among other mormon leaders that followed smith made MANY false prophecies. God also said there is one sin that he will NEVER forgive and that is blaspheme of the Holy Ghost, it looks like you mormons are screwed come judgement day. God knows that you demon mormon trolls walk around trying to lure Gods children away from him to praise a wife stealing scumbag and the inventor of mormonism for money, power and little girls like joseph smith did.. so God sends out his children to do research and help expose satans mormon children and God has been doing that for many decades to this day. God also knows that his son Jesus Christ has been and always will be the head of the CATHOLIC CHURCH WITH 1.8 BILLION MEMBERS, to the mormons 13 million church of joseph smith members...
Please show some respect to my religion and the religion of many we believe in Christ that's why the title of our church is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
He says we are not persecuting gays, we are just trying to protect our
belief that marriage is between a man and a woman.
So when you were being persecuted for polygamy, it wasn't really that? It
was just REAL americans trying to protect their belief that marriage is
between a one man and one woman... right?
+Chris Isom well stated with facts and not fire. nicely done sir. may i also point out that the lgbt are not even being persecuted...just ignored maybe. Also it is not a right to get married. just as it is not a right to be able to drive. people don't know what is really even going on.
+Mark Hansen Mark, you bring up a point that few are willing to reconcile. Americans were within their rights to define marriage between one man and one woman. The church argued polygamy was not constitutional and lost. They gave up the fight after persecution via seized property and imprisonment. One premise of Utah being admitted as a state in the 1890's was they could not have plural marriage - just "traditional". Now the state is told by judges that they must be more open in their definition. How is the Supreme Court decision reconciled with the polygamy laws of the late 1800's? Its not. LBGT is not about to include a "P" in the definition. The sign "my 2 moms can beat up your 14 wives" (look at 1:45) shows the true colors of the whole movement. True equality isn't on their radar. We can imply from the polygamy laws of the 1800's that society can define marriage. The church is completely within its rights to state where it thinks those boundaries should be. You can call this "persecution" but then I guess anyone exercising freedom of speech for a cause could be called a persecuting bigot.
Mormon apostle caught lying on national television exposed by Daniel Seppings
Ezra Taft Benson knew that most of the corruption in the Mormon church would lead to his suppression and death. Secret combinations amongst the Danites ...
i am checking the wording of the reporter and he is very clear with the question The reporter clearly says Mitt Romney would have sworn an oath and threatened to slit his throat.... and he asked Holland, is that true and Holland lied and said no that is not true.
Actually the Mormon apostle Jeffrey R. Holland is completely lying. He said, "it is not true" thats a lie because Mitt Romney had made those oaths of cutting the throat before 1990. Mitt Romney has been in the church longer than 1990. Please don´t apologize for this scammer apostle he was trying to pretend that Mitt Romney never made such hideous Masonic Mormon secret combinations sick blood atonement rituals, when actually Mitt Romney had been in the church all his life and had to make those rituals.
+Maxwell Silverhammer I agree with you the Mormon have a lot to cover up because of the secret combinations amongst the Masonic Mormons to take over the American government.Its called the White Horse prophecy the US constitution will be hanging by a thread and then the Mormon will high jack the US Government.
The Life and Death of Mormon Founder Joseph Smith Jr. - 1/2
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Haha, you're not interested in the passages of what we actually believe?
You didn't give any scripture--you just had a statement of what we believe
with no support for it. I gave you support for what we ACTUALLY believe If
you aren't interested in the truth and the facts, we should just end this
now. It's a waste of time for both of us if you aren't interested in the
truth Have you read the Da Vinci Code? If you have, then that's more than
you can say about the Book of Mormon. READ IT! :)
Yes you notice that the darker side of human nature is to attack with
overwhelming numbers especially those who were not actively seeking harm to
them in any way. Mob mentality, the Salem witch trials come to mind. It
also reminds me of the Pharisees and Saducees who had to illegally try
during the night and execute Jesus Christ breaking even many of their own
laws to do so. The truth is the truth and always will be the gospel of
Jesus Christ is the most important thing we have period.
After the mob (of 200+ men) began firing shots into the room and had killed
Hyrum, Joseph fired 3 shots. For me, this doesn't change the story-he acted
in defense of his brethren. He then rushed to the window, not for any
escape, but again in hopes of saving his brethren. He knew that he would
die regardless, but by doing so, saved the lives of the others in the room.
You imply that the Church is trying to hide these facts, yet your quoted
source is the official History of the Church?
The first clue of the existence and escape of Mulek, son of Zedekiah, can
be found in 2 Kings 25:1-10, which reports that Nebuchadrezzar and "all his
host" scattered "all the men" and "all [the king's] army" and burnt "all
the houses of Jerusalem," and with "all the army" they destroyed the walls.
In the midst of all this, however, 2 Kings 25:7 omits the word all when it
reports only that "the sons" of Zedekiah were killed, leaving open the
question whether all of his sons were slain.
Hey this is a dishonest account. Wheres the part where Joseph shoots &
kills 2 of the 'mobsters'? & the part where Joseph & the gang are all
drinking alcohol beforehand? & the part where he gives the MASONIC distress
call "Oh Lord my god [is there no help for the widows son"]? as documented
by J.Taylor in (Hist.of the Church Vol. 7 pg 100-103) Im sick of being lied
at by the Church. A lie of omission is the worst lie of all. If I cant
trust the Church for the truth about JS then who??
"While this family unit is the ideal, many Church members find themselves
in a variety of other circumstances. Some are not married, but have good
support from their parents or siblings. Others may not have support from an
extended family. The gospel of Jesus Christ was given by God to bless all
His children, without exception, regardless of the family situations in
which they find themselves. The gospel provides a brotherhood and
sisterhood to strengthen and help all God's children.
I don't think Joseph knew for sure that he would die until the mob started
shooting and killed Hyrum. I find it interesting that you put so much
pressure on the man to find the "right words" in his dying moment. If you
were put in that situation, do you think you could find the exact right
words that would please generations? He absolutely was killed because of
his beliefs. If it was about a printing press, that could have been solved
in the courtroom. These men were out for blood.
Cory, be completely honest. How many pages of the Book of Mormon have you
read? Full pages. 1? 3? 10? I have studied the New Testament (yes, even
with a highlighter--actually a red pencil to highlight). The contradictions
aren't there Cory--read them both in their entirety and come back with your
own research. I am confident you will change your mind. You may not think
that the Mormon religion is correct for whatever reason, but you won't find
the contradictions you think you will.
"Recently, an ancient seal was discovered in Jerusalmen bearing the title,
"Malkiyahu the son of the king." This may very well be a seal from the
Mulek, the son of King Zedekiah. This is entirely plausible based on what
we know of ancient Israel and the information in the Book of Mormon and the
Bible." - Jeff Lindsay I can give you the link if you'd like to study this
topic. Based on your track record though, I am disappointed to say that you
will probably not follow up & research
These romantisized movies are part of a deceptive scheme. The members are
enclined to believe that thats the way it really happened. If JS knew he
was going down & wanted to protect his brethren why didnt he come out
BEFORE the shooting started? Why didnt he die saying "Father dont hold this
sin against them" like real martyrs for Christ did? He wasnt even killed
for Christ, it was because he had a printing press destroyed. He went out
dragging as many souls with him as he could.
Because of the Fall of Adam and Eve "all mankind became a lost and fallen
people" (Alma 12:22). King Benjamin taught that fallen man or "the natural
man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be,
forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and
putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of
Christ the Lord" (Mosiah 3:19). Those are Book of Mormon scriptures. See
any contradiction with the Bible? Nope!
"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the
dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither
was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast
out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the
whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and HIS ANGELS were cast out
with him. " ANGELS were cast out! Satan was an ANGEL. Jeswus is GOD!
According to the bible which you don't believe.
None of the members of the Church are perfect. If the Church was for pefect
people, the pews would certainly be empty on Sunday! :) I understand that
there can be circumstances where people can say things or imply things that
are hurtful. Have I ever been offended by another church member? You bet,
just like I've been offended by people at school, work, and essentially any
group in which I've spent a lot of time. It's inevitable at some point
because of our imperfections.
If you have trouble with any of the teachings, I'd encourage you to talk to
someone about them. Send me a message sometime. The DNA thing is a perfect
example--it is very easy to construe the "evidence" to make something
appear false. However, with the right context, that is an easy concern to
make logical sense out of. Anyway, keep praying, stay open, and keep the
possibilities open. There will be lots of people to welcome you back when
you're ready for that decision.
According to the bible. Satan is an ANGEL, Jesus is GOD, and YOU are a
SOUL! "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against
the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not;
neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was
cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth
the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast
out with him." (Revelation 12:7-9
Haha, I like how you end every response with a question like "Are you
crazy?" Focus on the issues, not the personal attacks Cory. Let me copy and
paste something since you like to do that as well. :) Latter-day scripture
greatly expands our understanding of the events that took place in heaven
prior to man's physical creation described in Genesis. Although these
events are hinted at in the Bible, they are generally difficult to
understand without additional help.
Because of the Fall of Adam and Eve "all mankind became a lost and fallen
people" (Alma 12:22). King Benjamin taught that fallen man or "the natural
man is an enemy to God, and has been from the fall of Adam, and will be,
forever and ever, unless he yields to the enticings of the Holy Spirit, and
putteth off the natural man and becometh a saint through the atonement of
Christ the Lord" (Mosiah 3:19). We believe it was a spiritual and physical
death.
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@Keith5811 hehe, i think you have some facts crossed. I heard something
about one of the reasons why they left Ohio was because of the bank that
failed, Kirtland Safety Society. People believed it closed and he pretty
much ran with their money...I don't know if people can prove that. What I
can prove is that it is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
that is now changing my life for the better. What happened 170 years ago
can change nothing of the blessings I now receive. ThanksJS
"After returning to Macedonia I saw no more of Brothers Joseph and Hyrum,
but learned early on June 28th of their assassination. To attempt to
delineate the feelings of woe and unutterable sorrow that swelled every
heart too full for tears, I need not attempt. I stood up, dazed with grief,
could groan but could not weep. The fountain of tears was dry! "Oh God!
what will thy orphan church and people now do!" was the only feeling or
thought, that now burst out in groans."
Paul is referring to Peter in the book of galatians as the preacher of
another gospel, you'll see this if you read the second chapter. Gospel
doesn't mean a book, there's 4 gospels in the new testament so according to
your logic we should have only one of the current 4 gospels chosen as the
gospel. The bible is compilation of 66 books that were separete, The book
of momron is also, and they both could be put together as one book as we
have done.
How many churches do you know that have a prophet, 12 apolstels, priesthood
authority, temples and the teachings of Christ that are untouched but mans
hand? This one maybe? Moreover, Joseph Smith the Prophet was persecuted and
murdered in a jail cell by a mob of 200 men. If prophets have been without
persecution that would be the day. Truth is he was a prophet and God did
talk with him. This is the restored church of Jesus Christ.
In the book of revelations it talks of prophets of god in the last days.
Are you going to reject them too or is it possible that those prophets are
here now through Gods' restored church? You might want to take another
look. The prophets of God will not be wearing gold and tall hats nor will
they have bands playing behind them. You will know them through their works
and words. The angel has come and God's organization is here.
I know the Book of Mormon the Holy Bible to be the word of God. I've
completely read both several times. They compliment each other. They both
contain God's words for us! I have a grandfather who was imprisoned for
something he didn't do. He knew Joseph Smith personally. While in jail he
was offered a large bag of money if he would betray Joseph Smith. He would
not, though he was very poor, denounce the Prophet. Nor will I!
"I did not go to see their mutilated bodies. I had no wish to look into
their grave; I knew they were not there, and the words of Brother Joseph
began to come back to me, "I could do so much more for my friends if I were
on the other side of the veil." These words, "my friends"--oh, how glad
that he was my friend." My great-great-great-grandfather felt the exact
same way. As do I!
Galatians 1:8 does not mean that no more revelations of truth were to be
expected; it just means that "revelations" which contradicted the
fundamentals the Apostles had laid out were to be rejected as spurious. The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' doctrine is in full alignment
with the teachings of the Apostles; therefore Gal 1:8 does not apply here.
And what "documents" did you read? You said not to say you're worng, but
it's hard not to when your "facts" are indeed wrong. For example, Joseph
Smith was not "beat to death"--he was shot. You said "because he ripped a
bunch of people off." He was a prophet of God and, unfortunately like many
prophets of old, was killed for that.
Fifteen months after the martyrdom of Joseph and Hyrum, 60 residents of
Nauvoo, including Brigham Young, Willard Richards and John Taylor, traveled
to Carthage for some legal business and decided to visit the jail. They
found "the walls pocked with bullet marks and the stains of spattered blood
on the floor of the jail.
Most mainstream Christian scholars now believe that Revelation was written
before John wrote his gospel and other writings included in the Bible. Does
that mean that John is "cursed" for those writings? Of course not! That
scripture pertains to Revelation and Revelation only--the Bible had not
even been compiled yet!
but you miss one important thing here. This angel brought the exact same
gospel that Christ brought. You can try and warp it all you want but this
gospel is the restored gospel of Jesus Christ brought to us through the
exact same prophets and messengers of the lord.
The New Testament says "EVEN if an angel from heaven should preach another
gospel let him be eternally condemned, There is NO other gospel", and yet
the Mormons have another Gospel. Jesus specifically warned of this. Your
gospel is false.
Jesus said not one single word can be added to his bible! STOP following a
stupid man. FOLLOW JESUS and his word along. The Mormon book is added
words. According to Jesus and his word, Joseph is eternally condemned for
adding words.
An angel Moroni? HA! Jesus WARNED of this! Galations ch 1 verse NO other
gospel "Even if an angel of heaven should preach a gospel other than the
one we preached you, let him be eternally condemned!."
Cory, glad to see you're back. I think it's been about a month since we
last chatted. Have you had a chance to read the Book of Mormon yet? Or are
you still relying on only second-hand information?
fact 1; Joseph Smith was tared and feathered and later shot fact 2; phelps
I believe brought FALSE claims against smith for stealing book that he
claimed to have written Which Was FALSE .
Chapter 55: The Apostles Lead the Church
Jesus gives the Apostles the power to lead the Church of Christ after His death.
Mormon Doctrine: The Mediator - Mormon Theology
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Wow - this seemed accurate until the friend asked "will you accept me as
your creditor?" We owe no debt to Jesus for his sacrifice - it was a free
gift by which our transgressions were completely blotted out. Thus, the
parable at Matthew 18:21-25. Once we accept Christ, our debt has been
cleared - we have no creditor, we owe nothing. That is the beauty of His
love for us and that is the good news that we can share with all those who
realize the weight of their own sin.
It is a great film--one of my favorites. As you may have noticed, I make no
claim that it is mine or that I produced it. I think it's clear from the
intro that it is an Church-produced movie. As it says at the beginning from
the Church, "You may download this video for Church and personal,
non-commercial use and share it with your friends." That's what I'm trying
to do! I noticed you added it as well. :)
When I first saw this video a couple of years ago, the Spirit of the Lord
testified to me that Jesus is the Christ and that He is our Mediator. I'm a
convert and till then I didn't quite understand why we needed Jesus Christ.
But when I saw this video I understood. The message is brought very clear.
Thank you for uploading LDS9999!
This was a staple of all of our convert baptisms in Tucson and El Paso. Of
course, none of the baptisms were mine, except for one. Oh well, if you
watch my videos when I give NFL analysis, you'll probably find out why I
didn't look appealing. Oh well, I worked hard anyway!
I allow comments so people can share their thoughts about the video--not
how well it is produced (because I sure didn't produce it)--but rather
about the message itself. This can be a great forum for people to discuss
and share their beliefs if they so want to.
this was taken from a conference talk entitled "The Mediator" given by Boyd
K. Packer in April 1977. you can find it in the May 1977 Ensign Magazine or
on the LDS Church's website LDS . org