Yep that's right, but if you choose to use the 30mm, you will have
different levels of compression in the images. Long focal lengths tend to
compress the image, so the background will look bigger and closer to the
subject like with the wide focal length. Wide focal lengths distort the
image, so the nose of a person will look bigger than the rest of his/her
head. That is why long focal lengths are used for portraits, they "flatten"
the face. It will look more flattering to the person.
As a newbie to photography I was really confused about focal lengths and
crop sensors. In a nut shell a 50mm is going to be similar to your natural
vision when you look through the view finder regardless of your sensor. A
crop sensor will just be a smaller frame. All this means is that if you're
standing next to someone with a full frame camera and you're both using
50mm, you'll have to take a couple steps back to capture a similar image,
but sure you could also just use a 30mm lens.
Do you know if the Tokina, Sigma, and other non-proprietary, if you will,
brand lenses, have the sensor auto-reduction capacity as Canon-for-Canon
and Nikon-for-Nikon (just as two examples) do? Hope that makes sense. I've
used a Tokina DX wide-angle on my full-frame body (Canon 5D MkII), but
without any sensor-reduction effect (i.e., you could see the interior of
the lens barrel; at least I think that's what it was). Is there a menu
'sensor reduction' manual setting?
At least people use "crop factor" instead of "multiplication factor". I
don't really agree with your line saying that the 50mm isnt 50mm wheb
mounted on a non 35mm camera. 50mm to me is 50mm, there are too many
optical properties to a lens. It's just a crop, you're missing part of the
original image size. Perspective compression, bokeh, etc remain those of a
50mm for example. Marketting really made a mess with those non full frame
sensors :)
Matt, i have a question for you mate. I started with a Samsung WB100 16.mp
24x bridge, got me into Photography, now have Nikon D3100 just got a
55-300m Nikkor (love that) and want a lower mm model as well. But, my
question is - on the Samsung, why could I zoom in on a photo with more
clarity and sharpness retained, than the photos i take with the Nikon? Is
it because the MP is lower on the D3100? am i just not focusing properly?
HALP!!
Hi Matt, Thanks for a great video, how does this affect magnification, if
at all? E.g. with the cropped sensor image do you still see the same sized
subject image, just less background? I assume yes, but this has never been
clear to me. And I don't have both size sensors to test. PS there is a
background whine in the audio up until about 1:28 or so.
Ay mate, I like most of your videos....(good infotainment factor most of
the time)...but some things are best explained with the whiteboard method.
This is one of them. Abstract explanations are best served with pictures
AND language not just language. Thanks for trying but this one misses the
mark.
Thanks Matt great information.. always look forward for your vidoes, they
are very informative. I recently bought a nikon 24-70mm f2.8 and thanks to
your videos they really helped me make an informed decision especially when
putting down the money for such an expensive lens. Thanks once again
yYOU ARE RIGHT MATTMAN, FOCAL LENGTH IS THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CENTRE OF
THE LENS AND THE CENSOR, AND THE FEILD OF VIEW IS WHAT YOU ARE SEEING, AND
ON A SMALLER CENSOR YOU SEE LESS GIVING THE APEARANCE OF A ZOOMED IN, OR
CROPPED EFFECT, THANKS FOR YOUR INTEREST, LOVE YOUR WORK.
Hi Matt, you didn't mention the lens compression. On my understanding, a
lens will have the same lens compression regardless of the sensor size. For
example, 50mm on a FX or a DX will still have the same lens compression. Is
that correct? Can you clarify? Thanks :-)
@martosc13 From what I can tell lens compression will be different, but a
1.5x or 1.6x crop won't make that much difference. The crop will make you
stand further back to get the subject in frame, so the background will seem
larger relative to the subject.
@dumkopf There are plenty of articles about lens compression on the net,
just do a Google search. I don't think I can post a link here. I'm sure
there's video explaining about lens compression in youtube as well. Good
luck.
@martosc13 What do you mean by compression? Also, Matt, I think to be more
clear you should say that, for example, a micro 4/3 sensor is half the area
of a full frame sensor. Though, this video was plenty clear for me. :)
@jpustin what i do understand is that no matter what lenses used, full
frame lenses or crop lenses, the focal length stated on the lens is for
35mm sensor (fullframe). it should apply the same for canon if not mistaken.
@opeth84 I know I bought 'full-frame' glass, if you will, as it TENDS to be
a of a higher quality, and it gives you the flexibility to move up to a
full-frame body down the road w/o having to replace the glass.
So, on a camera with a cropped sensor,would the crop factor be shown in the
viewfinder or would i have to guess.Im relatively new to photography and
I'm just trying to figure a few things out.
hey @thatnikonguy would you be doing reviews or comparisons of radio
triggers in the future? Pocket Wizards vs Phottix?benefits of using CLS vs
Sync Cords vs radio trigs?
that's what i said mattman, field of veiw on a 50mm is 75mm if you have a
crop factor of 1.5 true focal lenth is the true feid of veiw. maybe I am
splitting hairs mattman
Image quality is the same, you are only using the middle part of the lens;
so you will lose things like vignetting to some degree; or lens-edge
chromatic aberrations...
Matt im glad your doing more vids like this the nude stuff was getting to
much for me. this is the reason i started following you all those months
back if you remember.
Nice exlpanation Matt, I only miss the answer for "Why I even bother with
FX if it's bigger, heavier, more expensive and not so zoomed in" question
for some beginners.
Good work mattman, the moral of the story is times your focal length by
your crop factor to find your true focal length, ie 50mm x 1.5= 75mm true
focal length
@Paulekonrad2 I would suggest it buy FX body, I bought Nikon D7000 and its
great, But I didnt know alot about photography and wish i got a full frame
first.
does a DX lens have the Crop factor on a DX body?? so my 35mm DX on my DX
body is cropped to 52mm equivalent?
Crop Factor Explained: FocusEd
In this FocusEd video, we discuss the sometimes confusing aspects and nature of crop factor. This is not about how many bushels of corn an acre of rich soil in ...
so if I buy a lens designed for a full frame camera like the AF-S FX Nikkor
50mm/F1.4 G and use my D7000 I would get a 75mm/F2 lens....and if I would
buy the lens designed for ASP-C camera I will still get the 75mm lens with
the only difference i will get very strong vingeting on the FF and because
of that I cant use it ? or how does it work ?:)
+Pavel Vetesnik DX format lenses (APS-C format lenses) have an image circle only meant to cover an APS-C size sensor. If you were to use one on a full frame sensor, there would be significant vignetting as the image circle would not cover the entire sensor. As for the 14mm Samyang vs the 16-85mm Nikon, if you weren't using a tripod set in the exact same spot with both lenses, it?s possible that you were slightly closer to your subject with the Samyang lens than with the Nikon lens. You would then be getting less in the frame with the Samyang lens making it appear to have a smaller angle of view. Christina [email protected]
Than still there is an unaswered question to me still.... I have a lens designed for ASPC sensor - AF-S DX Nikkor 16-85mm/f3.5-5.6 G VR....if i transfer it to FF world it would be 24-105mm....I made a shot on my ASPC D7K camera and shot was pretty and wide....than I tested a tens that was designed for a full frame camera - Samyang 14mm f2.8. I did a shot on a same location to compare how wide it would be... and 14x1.5= is 21mm....and to my naked eye it seems that i did not achieved as wide shot as with my 16mm lens and that makes me really confused :) can you explain that to me please ?:)
ok thanks :) when I had this question i felt stupid just because it made me just confused :) yes I am aware that the FF cameras has the ability to swap to ASPC crop mode and you will waste a tons of data... but I meant that if you would stay in FF mode :)
+Pavel Vetesnik A 50mm f1.4 AF-S G lens on your D7000 would have an equivalent (to 35mm format terms) field of view of 75mm and the aperture would be f1.4 as the crop factor does not apply to the aperture. Its result would have the equivalent composition and depth of field as a 75mm f2 lens on a full-frame camera. If you purchase a lens designed for an APS-C format, and use it on a full-frame camera, there will be the vignetting, however Nikon Full-frame DSLR's are designed to accept APS-C format lenses, and when doing so the sensor crops itself to the size of an APS-C sensor (with a significant drop in the pixel count of the sensor). If you did not utilize the crop-sensor feature in the full-frame Nikon, then there would be evident vignetting on the image from an APS-C lens. - Yossi
I love these videos, but can I make a suggestion? Female photographers! I
see women being used as photo subjects, but everyone else (the host, the
photographers, the assistants, the "scientist") are all men.
+JanieJane96 Thanks for the suggestion! Just a quick peek behind the curtain... We have a nice mix of males/females here and a good variety of males and females show up as photographers, in the wide variety of videos we produce. Mia McCormick is a writer/reviewer/host who's in quite a few videos. On screen we use staff rather than hiring models, so when shooting a scene, we just grab whoever is available. — But the interesting thing is at 3:22 in THIS video. The Director/Writer for the entire video, who shot every single scene, and who edited the entire video is a female. :-)
As always, your videos are articulate and well presented. Thank you.
I was hoping thought you would have addressed the reason that there is a
crop factor. What is the physical reason that causes a crop factor?
Thank you Yossi - sorry for still not grasping why the narrower field of view results in a 1.6 larger image for a Canon APS-C DSLR with EF lenses. Thanks for your patience.
+John C Simply put, light passing through the exit pupil of a lens onto the smaller size sensor will render a narrower path for the light to land on and thus causes a narrower field of view than the same lens would on a standard full-frame sized sensor. - Yossi
+John C In an upcoming episode of FocusEd (about lens mounts) look for a nice illustration about vignetting. That shows, albeit indirectly, why there is a crop factor.
Crop Factor Confusion
Some discussion about misconceptions related to crop cameras. Note: When I talk about the "1.5x" factor with the 7D, I am talking about the pixel density ...
Hi, I have a question about equivalent focal length that I have been trying
to find the answer to for several hours. I have a Nikon D3300 APC-S camera,
and my mom has a Nikon D600 full-frame camera. I am thinking about getting
a Nikon 50mm 1.4 FX lens to use with my D3300. I can't figure out what that
would look like though. The D3300 comes with a 18-55mm kit lens. I am
confused as to whether the 50mm would be equivalent to setting my kit lens
to 33.3 mm or to 75 mm (outside its range). Thanks.
+Lmomjian Looks like your 3300 is a 1.5x crop factor. So a 50mm on your mom's full frame will give you the same FOV as a 33mm on your camera. (Just divide 50mm by 1.5). So you should be able to set your kit lens to around 33mm and see the same thing on your camera that your mom sees when your kit lens is on her camera set to 50mm.
i think that ur video is not 100% correct , pixel density cant efect focal
length plus the total light gathered is also effected and aputure needs to
be multiplied by the crop factor aswel
i cant really speak about this , surly i havent tried and tested this effect so cant really agree or disagree but i would say that there can be a slight difference from paper specs.but i think your video did not convey this massage clear cos there where others that thought the same as me.well is just a misunderstanding , which happens alot specially on the net.regards
+Aron Gatt I'm trying to communicate that there is a real magnification difference with smaller pixels. The magnification difference is equivalent to using a longer lens. You can just divide the pixel pitch to find the "effective" change in focal length. Divide the 6.95 micron pitch of the 1Dx by the 4.09 micron pitch of the 7D II for example, you come up with an effective increase in focal length of 1.70, rounding up. So a 600mm lens on a 7D II will give you the same magnification as a ~1000mm lens on a 7D II. But this is due to magnification differences of the pixels at 100% viewing, NOT due to the crop factor.
ok , i got what you are saying .... basically you are saying what happens for example on our monitors when changing resolution { you will get more real estate on screen the more resolution you have ) same happens on the sensor , is this your point ?
+Aron Gatt Pixel density doesn't change focal length. Correct. What I'm saying in the video is that different resolutions will change the magnification of final image. I'm calling this difference the EFFECTIVE focal length because it is a real difference in magnification as a result of the sensor, not lens. The rest of your comment is too vague to respond to.
I am not so sure your video is correct. The overall sensor size (physical
dimensions) determines the crop factor. The number of pixels of the sensor
and hence pixel density is irrelevant!
In other words - if a Canon FF sensor is the same physical dimensions as a
Nikon FF sensor then they both have the same field of view with the same
lens. The higher MP of the Nikon have no effect on the angle of view of the
image projected. We are talking about an image being protected onto a
rectangle. The smaller the rectangle the narrower angle of light reaching
the rectangle and greater cropping of the projected image.
Think of a slide projector shining on a wall. You then draw some rectangles
on the wall where the image lands. The smaller the rectangle the greater
the cropping of the projected image. Where does pixel density come into it?
Simple answer: it doesn't.
Having read more of your information I see you may be right. It is hard to
tell without doing some real world tests or calculations. I really like the
way you think and you may well have this nailed.
+Colin Knight Great link that makes it very clear. You are spot on in what you say and thanks so much for sharing that with us!! A picture tells a thousand words, as they say :-)
+Colin Knight Hi Colin, I just typed a lengthy response to you and as soon as I hit send something clicked in my head. I'm a little undecided either way now and I will have to do some real world tests and/or calculations. I am really glad I watched your video as you may have a point here... I just need to convince myself you are right... and you may well be!! Thanks for this.
+cooloox No, that's not what I'm saying. Try this explanation: the 7D Mark II will give you more EFFECTIVE focal length than the 5D Mark III. But the 7D Mark II has 2 million fewer megapixels. That's because of what I said above, even though the 5D Mark III has more MP than the 7D II, the smaller pixels of the 7D Mark II give you more detail at 100% than the 5D Mark III. The 7D Mark II has pixels around 4.1 microns, the 5D Mark III is about 6.25 microns. So the 7D II will give you about 1.5x the magnification of the 5D Mark III. This is what I'm trying to communicate, and which everyone else seems to be grasping- cropped sensor cameras often do actually give you more magnification when viewing at 100%, but it's not because crop cameras have a smaller FOV, it's because crop cameras also most of the time come with much smaller pixels which increase your effective focal length.
+Colin Knight I think you're confusing things because all you are doing is stating the obvious: a 36MP image is a larger image than a 24MP image. Yes, obviously, and that has nothing to do with focal length at all.
+cooloox Pixel density doesn't have anything to do with angle of view, correct. But it has everything to do with EFFECTIVE focal length, but not real or physical focal length. The same image taken with the same sensor size but SMALLER pixels (i.e. more resolution) will be larger (magnified) when viewed at 100% compared to the same sensor size with a larger pixel pitch. This is what I mean by "effective" focal length and why it's distinguished from real focal length. Smaller pixels provide more magnification at 100% and thereby increase the EFFECTIVE focal length of the lens. The physical focal length stays the same obviously, but the image will have more magnification, as if the image was shot with a longer focal length. This is the difference between effective focal length and real focal length, and I think is what you're confused about leading you to believe the information above is incorrect.
+Colin Knight All I am saying is pixel density has nothing to do with angle of view and effective FOCAL LENGTH. I haven't said a word about image quality. You were misusing terms in your video at times and suggesting pixel density affects effective focal length. Focal length is purely related to angle of view, not image quality.
+cooloox Thanks for your smart alec, and incorrect, response. You started off right though, the sensor size determines the crop factor and the field of view. But saying the number of pixels is irrelevant is plain wrong. I take it you mean two sensors of the same physical size are equivalent even if one has twice the pixel density of the other? Do you honestly think that these sensors will display an image in the same way? Of course not, and that's where you are wrong and where pixel density becomes relevant. Pixel density means detail and resolution. A full frame sensor with smaller pixels when displaying an image at 100% will have more resolution, detail, and very importantly, magnification than a full frame sensor with larger pixels. This is what I mean by "effective focal length". A sensor with a pixel pitch that's smaller by a factor of say, 1.7, will have 1.7x the effective focal length. Your conclusion that pixel density doesn't effect the image is, to put it mildly, absurd. Pixel density is irrelevant when it comes to the field of view, but not when it comes to magnification/detail/EFL. This is explicity and correctly stated in the video.
How To Figure out your lenses 35mm equivalent
//froknowsphoto.com/?p=2931 There is one question that I get asked all the time via e mail is how do I know what the focal length of my lens is when I put it ...
No it isn't. This is wrong. Jared did not explain this correctly. With the
same lens, you get the same perspective in both cameras. The only
difference is that on an APS-C (cropped) sensor, you will only see the
CENTER of the entire image that you would get on a full frame camera. If
you have a full frame cam, you can always recreate what you would see on a
cropped sensor cam by cropping the image and leaving only the center.
Basically, full frame is always better (but more expensive).
Part 1 - QUESTION: Let's say we use the same lens (FF) on a FF camera and
then on a Cropped camera. All other factors remaining the same. We look at
both photos on your monitor where the objects photographed are the same
size. The Cropped will then have the top/bottom/right and left most parts
cut/missing (just like bard on a non wide screen TV vs a wide screen tv).
Now maximize both photos to fill in your screen. The objects in the FF will
look smaller...BUT also sharper (cont...)
Jared - Not *all* Canon "non-full frame" cameras are 1.6 The 1D series is a
1.3 crop factor. I usually explain it to noobs as this: imagine a slide
projector and slide screen. Situate the projector beam so that the image
fills the screen with no light spill over the sides. Got it? THAT is Full
Frame. Now, put masking tape on to the screen in a rectangle .6 the size of
the screen. Thats a 1.6 crop factor. The lens doesnt do different, the
sensor just doesnt get all the info.
@kcudlive The subject of the video has to do with the crop factor for
calculating an equivalent full-frame field of view when using a lens of a
particular focal length on a cropped sensor camera body. That has
everything to do with sensor size and nothing to do with total pixel count
or pixel density. That's a different issue that has to do with resolution
and image quality and viewing size. You use the same crop factor for any
lens on any DX body regardless of pixels.
All wrong explanation, stop removing my "rapid fire critiques". Focal
length does not change. The confusion is cause by a technical hobbyists
like you. Focal length is the distance between the point where parallax
lines enter the system and where they converge on the focal point. This
NEVER changes. What does is image ratio or viewing angle. Both probably out
of you league to calculate as they are not as simple as dashing * 1.5 on
OSX calculator. What a poser....
ONE SIMPLE EXAMPLE... you take a picture of your girlfriend, you take it
using a 50 mm lens with a full frame camera. Now, using a "cropped camera",
with a APS-C sensor and at the same distance to your girlfriend you take
another pic of her with a 35 mm. lens... the pic will look the very same in
composition, proportion, cropping, etc! That is because there is a
proportional difference of about 1.5 between the sizes of the two different
sensors.
Your really good at talking and creating videos. I wish I could be good at
that, I'm jealous Jared. I have a D7000 and a good condenser mic and I
can't find my self making a video. Good video! I never knew that you could
shoot a film camera at such fast FPS. If you had film that only had about
25 frames and shooting at that fast of FPS, you would be changing film
often. Unless I am completely wrong. I don't know.
@jchain001 Yes! The focal length of a 35mm FX lens is the same focal length
as 35mm DX lens. The x1.5 multiplication factor is to get an equivalent
*Field Of View.* A 35mm lens (FX or DX) on a DX camera body gives a *field
of view* similar to the *field of view* of a 52mm (35 x 1.5) lens on a FX
camera. Listen to Jared--he said you use the magnification factor when
using ANY lens on a cropped sensor camera.
@kcudlive Pixel density doesn't have anything to do with the issue of crop
factor and the apparent field of view of lenses in full-frame compared to
cropped sensor cameras. Pixel density has to do with resolution and picture
quality at greater viewing size. A poster sized print shot with a wide
angle lens benefits from high pixel density just as much as a poster sized
print shot with a telephoto.
@JaredPolin I thought on the DX lenses the Angle of View becomes
more...rather than saying your 50mm becomes 75mm,as the Lens's zoom cannot
be changed, its the sensor size that being small now(on a DX body) has a
View equivalent of 75mm when scaled to a 35mm Full Frame body....btw I love
your videos and Kudos for all the work that you are doing in sharing this
Knowledge. I too shoot RAW :)
@kcudlive No. The difference is due totally to the size of the sensor and
how much of the image projected by the lens onto the camera's focal plane
is captured by the sensor. There is NO difference between how a 35mm DX
lens behaves on a full sized sensor body and on a cropped sensor body. The
difference is due entirely to the fact that the sensors capture different
amounts of the image.
i got my prime lens yesterday and the bokeh is great however im seeing
some red, purple or green lines on the outline of my subjects when the
aperture is wide open at f1.8 i do not know whats causing it. but most of
the shots its there some ppl say its a lil chromatic aberration and that's
normal for a lens that price a few times its not there please tell me how
to get rid of it
@NO0Bstatus All lens focal lengths are stated as absolutes. So you need to
multiply it to get the 35mm equivalent area. Personally I don't see a
reason why people still think focal lengthts in 35mm equivalents unless
they've been shooting 35 film their whole lifes. When I use DX camera below
24 it gets wide and above 70 it gets tele. If I shoot film it's 35 and 105
respectively.
But it's wrong and perpetuating more confusing information by dumbing this
down. The perspective if the lens remains the same in both full frame and
cropped cameras. Saying that a lens gives you "more bang for your buck" on
a cropped sensor is beyond retarded and almost malicious. It's like saying
that cropping your pictures can substitute for a longer focal length lens.
@Jarepolin - i have a question, i'm on a low budget situation, so buying a
full frame camera is a bit pain in the ass for me. so i have to stick with
a cropped sensor. I'm planning to make a film and put it on dvd someday.
WHAT IF I USE A 35MM LENS ON A CROPPED SENSOR CAMERA, WOULD THAT HAVE AN
EQUAL WIDE VIEW AS A 50MM ON A FULL FRAME? thanks.
Now I'm confused, Jared u said if you put a FF lens in a DX body it will
increase or boost the range if the lens but it will reduce the wide angle?
is that right? but reading other comments below that they said u got it
wrong, please tell me you didn't got it wrong cuz i love the way you
explain it.
jarod got it wrong cause the focal lenght doesn't change. for example a
50mm on a FX camera gives you a 50mm with lets say 30 degrees of angle but
on a DX camera will give you a 50mm with 20 degrees. the focal lenght
doesn't change, you just lose 1/3 of the angle (cause 1.5x in cause of
nikon).
Can you please suggest me a good nikon lens to a beginner.. for a general &
sports shooting. I am planning to buy a D5100. But Am not happy with the
kit lens which comes along with the body.. We do not have Sigma products
here in India.. I need your help to pick up some cost worthy lens...
Hey Jared , quick question with third party len's suchs as Sigma how do i
no what ones have a in built focusing motor and what ones dont ? such as
the sigma 70-200mm it has ( II APO EX DG Macro HSM ) what one of those
codes tell me that the lens has a inbuilt focusing motor
@hoppidyhip You may want to double check your sources. Canon 1x series do
have a APS-H size sensor, but is is a 1.3 crop factor. Google APS-H and
click on any of the links it brings up. If you find any that show 1.1,
please provide the link - all I could find stated 1.3
I don't understand why in Canon's case they don't make EF-S lenses the
"REAL" focal length. We are not going to put an EF-S lens on a 5D 9full
frame) so why not make EF-S lenses the real mm in 35 mm terms. Don't know
about Nikon. Canon it seems could do it.
Jared, I think you have this wrong - if you put a 50mm on a DX you will see
the same zoom but less of the image. you would see the width of a 75mm but
still the same zoom as a 50mm. You can't all of a sudden have a 200mm on a
DX and get 300 zoom.
Jared, informative vid. It would be cool if you went on to relate this to
explaining the lens decision process behind some of your photos - like when
you might use a wide or telephoto lens, and the effects of using lenses
unconventionally.
@kentak47 but i guess there is a difference between a lens on a crop and
its equivalent on a full frame body even if you change your position so
that the field of view is the same, because they draw differently
(perspective, projection).
Hey Jared. Awesome videos. I got a DSLR recently, the T1i. I'm just
starting out, can you point me in the right direction. Do you know any good
websites and forums with a lot of information for beginners just starting
out in photography?
what i see on the viewfinder of a dx camera wont change if i change the
type of lens right? i mean, if i get a 50 fx from will be the same in terms
of framing as a 50 dx right ? would you thing that a 50 on a dx is an
everyday lens ¿?
@whoscooldaddydre this is why people are confused. I know how it works, I
know it doesn't change your lens but when you say you multiply every lens
on a DX or cropped sensor camera it makes it cut and dry simple and
understandable.
I would like to add this also, you multiply a FX lense on a DX boby 50mm
become an 75mm (agree) but also you multiply your F-stop and shutter
speed... and that's something people forget about it on non VR lenses... :)
good review..
@Pur3Kiwi the part that says HSM means hyper sonic motor. but just because
it doesnt say HSM on a sigma lens doesnt mean it doesnt have a motor. I
believe all the DC lenses have motors as well. Hope that helps. :)
Crop Factor Vs Depth of Field: Sony a5100 SEL50f18 (50mm f1.8)
Do you need to multiply the aperture too? This is a video response to Tony Northrup's explanation of the impact of crop factor on the image when using different ...
I think you bring up a good question here that needs to be answered as it
is a common one in photography, and in a wider sense, an intially
challenging concept to understand in radiometry. I've studied optics in
grad school and feel like i understand the underpinnings of the question at
hand.
Aperture is defined as the measure the focal length of a lens divided by
its entrance pupil. That is something that is inherent in the lens itself.
It is a direct reference to the ability of a lens to gather light. For a
given entrance pupil (i.e. - lens diameter), a shorter focal distance
corresponds to more light gathered. Because of this, when you use a crop
sensor body, there is light gathered by the lens that is lost on the
sensor, thus making it the equivalent of a longer focal length with a
narrower field of view. With the decreased field of view also comes a
decreased f-number since its ability to gather light has been diminished
(essentially your sensor becomes the entrance pupil instead of the aperture
stop in the lens). What this means for a Sony/Nikon crop factor of 1.5 is
that a 50mm lens f/1.8 (35mm equivalent) will give the same background
blur, depth of field, and field of view as a 75mm f/2.7 (1.8+.5*1.8). This
is what geometric optics has to say on the matter and it's what Tony was
trying to explain.
In the case of this test what you are looking at is the digital readout of
your sensor. When you do a digital crop on the image, it isn't changing the
image that was formed in total; it's the equivalent of putting some
construction paper around the outer half of a portrait on the wall in order
to crop it. It doesn't change any of the physical properties of the image.
However, if you were to increase the physical crop factor of your camera, a
different field of view would be obtained (focal length) and you would end
up with a new depth of field to your image. Bottom line is that a digital
crop does not change the angle of view of an image formed on your sensor so
it will not effect the depth of field of the image formed thereon.
+Sean Nicolaysen I full agree with your post. due to light being "lost" from a smaller sensor, the lenses ability to gather light is diminished. To that end I agree with Northrop's point that when manufacturers clam the multiplied focal length values, but leave the f-stop value the same on small sensor cameras, that is a little fraudulent.But as it is quite common to look at the F-Stop value of a lens to predict its "Bokeh" factor, I believe this remains the same regardless of crop factor, digital zoom, or post-edit cropping with construction paper as you so well explained.Many thanks!