www.catholic.com Jimmy Akin answers a caller who asks how she can explain what Catholics believe about Biblical interpretation to her Protestant friends.
+sa gui that's impossible lol many scholars would disagree with you my friend ,the catholic church just put all the books together without the RCC say by to all 40,000 protestant denominations out in the world
"Created" LOl. Some priest indoctrinated you on that?!? Lol. True Christians already had the Sceiptures for centuries before your bloody papacy began their reign of murder and genocide. True Christians since the apostles already had the Scriptures. And the very same book condemn your idolatry and practices....is that simple.
+Tim Spangler Yup. Because we know we (individually) will just interpret it to our own destruction. Let the Church do it. They have the resources, history, and the guarantee of Jesus that the Holy Spirit will always guide the Church.
And don't forget 2 Peter 1:20-21! "Above all else, however, remember that
none of us can explain by ourselves a prophecy in the Scriptures. For no
prophetic message ever came just from the human will, but people were under
the control of the Holy Spirit as they spoke the message that came from
God." (GNT). We require some kind of prophetic authority. Of course,
Protestants would argue that the Holy Spirit comes upon the true believers
and gives them authority. The problem with this line of thought is that
many Protestants come to many different conclusions about Scripture, not
just on trivial matters, but on serious issues, such as abortion, gay
marriage, and others. It seems unlikely that the Holy Spirit would guide so
many people to hold obviously contradictory conclusions about serious
matters. With the division of Protestantism in mind, the solution appears
to be that the passage means we need a prophet to tell us how to interpret
Scripture. Technically it does not prove that the true prophetic message is
found through Catholic papal infallibility, though I cannot imagine who
else it would be, especially considering that Peter, the first pope, was
the rock on which the Church was built.
+France Filiault Sorry my friend, I became busy and not so interested much more in replying to our conversations. I reviewed our conversations but I only saw one thing in you... Your hatred and ignorance with the Catholic Church. You are same as the few prots I know who all do is to accused the Church.. I worried so much if that's really your ways to gain more recruits. Your baseless allegations were more dangerous to yourselves and your credibility, for you fail a lot of doing more research or by intent you ignore our church history! I think this facts will interest you..//www.splendorofthechurch.com.ph/2015/05/02/who-founded-your-church/
+Josh Itos Gravidez I just noticed your post. It is naive to think thatthe protestants of the reformation are the ONLY protestants. Josh.there has been protestants for centuries. The reason they are not mentioned is the fact that they where killed by your church for 600 years. Anyone who opposed Rome was laughtered because of their "heresies", which absolutely not true that they where all heretics. Most of them where bible believing Christians who did not want to joined what they thought was the whore of Babylon. What do you mean doctrines cannot change from the early christians? If it is a doctrine that is based on what Christ and the Apostles taught, then no they cannot, but the doctrines of the RCC are not biblical. Sure there are verses they use to "prove" that they are biblical, but you will not find the actual sacrements being done by anyone.Yes it is through the scriptures that we find HOW to be saved and that is through FAITH in Christ. Once you believe you want to repent, once you repent the Holy Spirit lives in you. You don't need to read but have faith, and scriptures privedes you with what to putyour faith in. And of course evangelizing saves because the message is what you are save when you believe. You think that the "bible" only existed for only 400yrs. You do believe in every lies they feed you. Josh, the early Christians had Scriptures since Moses and the NT where read and copied over and over way before they where compiled. Don't assume that what they tell you is the truth.
+Josh Itos Gravidez i hope Protestants don't assume that since the Catholic church as they say is wrong God made a mistake by giving us the Bible guided by the Holy Spirit from the Catholic church
+France Filiault If you are so confident that the CC does not have the authority to teach the gospel, are you telling us that you have the authority? You are a diligent researcher yet you have not come to know that the Catholic Church were the ones that preserve, compiled, and canonized the bible both of you and me are reading? Decree of the Council of Rome (AD 382) on the Canon of Scripture during the reign of Pope Damasus I (AD 366-384). Or you simply disagree again and post another accusations, well it´s expected. Again, protestant = to protest, to disagree, to post allegation and brings separation. Not until 1500+ years, the One communion of the Church was broke by the pride of also a Catholic priest Martin Luther.In my understanding, Doctrines cannot be change, it´s a heritage from our early Church Fathers, from the apostles themselves, our traditions, our culture, inspired by the holy spirit.Then site the wrong doctrines the Catholic Church has. Nevertheless, What´s the big deal with that? Is n`t it for each individual to decide what rules to follow? Seems that you are not so fan of rules or regulations... What do you think the purpose of our state laws?Let me go back to your first comment, the scripture interpret itself? So the bible alone can save you? Was that you really saying? Then how about those people who don´t have the bible, those who don´t know how to read? Did Jesus told His apostles, "Go and write the bible, give them to everyone and let them interpret it one by one all by themselves!"? Knowing that the bible only existed almost 400 years after the death of Jesus... That`s a lot of problem with that, don´t you think?! :-)
+Josh Itos Gravidez I am glad that you understand that Jesus built a spiritual church andmthat church is the believers, and does not consist dogmas and clergymen. I don't think that the catholic understanding is to low, I believe that the catholic idea is wrong. I say this not to affend, but i simply understand how the church claims for itself and it is not biblical. You are right that most people love catholics, I myself is one of them since my family is catholic but it isn't what is perceived that Christians hate, it catholism and it's teaching. If i simply love everyone and let them believe inma false Gospel, I am not doing what we are all called to do, that is to spead the truth. That is how I love and live my life.
+France Filiault Thanks also for being aware of my feelings... but I can assure you that I am humble enough to accept criticisms, and truly man enough not to enforce someone to accept what I believe in. But honestly, I can say we have lots of similarities on understanding our faith to God. Maybe you just misinterpret me for being Catholic. I agree with you that the Church that Jesus built is not a physical structure or building, but a spiritual one. Yet you are the one focusing on that idea that our (Catholics) understanding about the Church is too low. The true Church is the unity of faith we have for God! Do you really think we don´t have that for being Catholics? If you ask me personally, I can tell you straight that you are wrong. Most people love Catholic, but lots of people hates what they perceive to be Catholic. So again, I tell you my friend, JUST LIVE YOUR FAITH! Continue spreading the good news... Open up your heart to everyone and learn to see the good of others. Do not judge. Give up the pride. Stop the hates!Truly God is guiding us so we don´t just lean on our own understanding, but we must trust in the Lord with all our hearts! To God be the Glory!
+Josh Itos Gravidez You think think that protestants are the ones accusing the catholic church for blood shed? I learned the past of Christianity through historians and scholars. Every time you hear an atheist, or a muslim or any non Christians accusing Christianity of blood shed, who do you think they are referring to? Where the bible say that we should not judge the church according to scriptures? How are we all going to stand on the truth if we can't bring up anything that can offend? For me learning the bloody history just confirmed what i have been reading in Scriptures, that the church that i belonged to was not the that my God established. Jesus established a spiritual church, and all believers are united in Christ through faith, not doctrines. I can never say that all catholics are not Christians, but believing in anything other than faith in Jesus can save you is false, not according to me but the scriptures. What i mean by that is, if you put your faith in doctrines, sacraments (that are not in the bible), saints, the bible teaches that salvation is not granted. It is simple and probably why people struggle with this, because we so want to do something to save our selves, but God only wants us to repent and believe. He brings the Holy to lead us, and He does.There are only a few that follows only scriptures say and only what scriptures say. I am baptism, but all who puts their faith in Christ (not the church) and acept the scriptures to be the soul beliefs are saved. We don't agree in all doctrines, but we agree on the Gospel and there is a big difference. I am comfortable to go to a Methodist church, Lutheran church, Presbyterian church, as they believe the core of scriptures, the part that saves.Sorry if i have offended you in anyway, but we are called to spead the truth and not to tickle the ears. Please read Romans, Galatians, Corinthians, Ephesians, Hebrews. Read them all, but especially the ones i stated as they can help understanding what exactly where our faith should be in.God bless you and your family!! :)
+France Filiault My friend, it`s very obvious that you know and agree on all the accusations the protestants are spreading about the Catholic Church, don´t you? Then you said you are not judging? Come to think of it my friend, do you really think you protestants are superior in knowing the truth? So you were the only ones who know the true Church history? How can you really say that we Catholics are not true Christians? Have you come to have the ability to know what`s inside our hearts? I tell you my friend, only God knows who´s in Him and who´s not. So what do you really believe? Which of the many protestant denominations you follow? But whichever it is, I guarantee you that I will not judge you just knowing of what group and beliefs you follow! As I am not judging other cultures, religions, ethnic groups, etc. Even some people in jails are good people. But If you tell me, you don`t belong to any denomination, or you don´t have any group, I tell you my friend, "worship" is not solitary. We have to unite our faiths to other believers and become as One, that´s what Jesus wanted right? Unity, peace, and harmony with each other is very important to the Lord. And judgment is only for Him.Jesus' way; "Whosoever is not against us, is among us!"Satan's way; "Whosoever is not with us, is against us!"Open up your heart my friend, and give others a chance... please learn to see the good of others; for us Catholics! Please do not charge us with the things we never do. We are both Christians and we respect your beliefs and truth! JUST LIVE YOUR FAITH! Love, love, love! :-)
+Josh Itos Gravidez I am not judging when I bring up the past. We are called to judge within the church.ESV:For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?13ESV:God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”If someone is in a burning house no matter how comfortable they are, I am attemping to wake them up.Read the bible my friend, with love for God and do not ignore what contradicts or is hard to hear. The bible has only one interpretation, and yes you might not understand a few parts of it, but I am telling you that there where MANY disputes in the days of the apostles and the where never ONE set of doctrines. When you decide to read at least the NT, you will see how the Apostles handled it. The NT is very easy to understand and you only have to read it to know how easy. Don't be intimidated, God will help you.
+France Filiault I honestly admire you my friend for doing so much research against the CC. And now I admit that I am inferior to you when it comes to theology or church history. On the contrary, you again post accusations as a way of encouraging people that what you protestants says are the truth. And if I argue with your style of debate, I will just also lay down the facts about Martin Luther.. and I supposed being an enthusiast researcher, you already knew him, but I hope you don´t just pick what you want to hear and know.We have lots of history, and maybe you are right that some of them can be altered or changed, but Catholics were not only the historians here; that´s where the problem comes.And for my own experience, I have only few to say... I am a Catholic, born by my Catholic parents, from their Catholic parents with a Catholic parents..and so on. In short, we are a Faithful Catholic generation. Together with the church, they mold me to be a God-fearing and loving Christian, to act like a true Christian, to avoid evil doings, and to know what´s good and pleasing to God. I only remember a few times attending other different denominations, and so I therefore by myself witness of there different interpretations, pastoral opinions on certain issues of what the bible teaches about them. No wander, by picking up bible verses that suit to justify their views. And most importantly, the only things that the protestant denominations agree with each other, are the baseless accusations they say on attack to the Catholic Church. So then we are the pagans, we are idolaters, and we are not true Christians, or worst, we are the anti-Christ, as they now publish of our Pope.? You said that you follow Jesus, but what made you think that by judging others makes you a better Christians? What if you are the ones who are blinded?My friend, it seems that you wanna convinced people that the Catholic Church are murderers. But why too busy emphasizing that, yet closing eyes and mouth for other religions that using the name of God to proclaim war.. it is very obvious nowadays?The Catholic ways are far more than other denominations. You judge us, but the Catholic Church respects you and others of what they believe, with arms wide open. The bible says, "do not judge and you will not be judge!". Also, Jesus said, "Whoever is not against us, is among us!". My friend, I pray for both of us, for the Holy Spirit to enlightened us both, and humbles our heart.. so that we can use them and do not lean on our own understanding, to believe in God with all our hearts! Thank you very much!
+Josh Itos Gravidez Hi, I understand that you want the past to be exactly that...the past. But we can't simply do that, and I know the church wants to keep it in the past, but there is a problem with this, because your church claims to be THE church that Christ built, and it also claimed that it NEVER changed. But when it comes to Inquisitions and the crusades we are told that this was in the past and those responsible where not true catholics. That poses a problem because it was under the popes at the time that slaughtered millions, for centuries. I myself was a catholic since birth, and was completely happy with the catholic faith,and proud. I remeber eating my launch very fast to go pray the rosary at the church with some students. I went to a catholic school in a small french community, where there was a french catholic and a english public school. My best friend was french protestant, and her parents thought her french was more very important, so they send her to a french catholic school. I remember standing for prayer in the morning and praying that she would listen cateshist and be moved by it. Little did I know she was praying for me to be saved. It was not until later when I saw her reading the bible and seeing that her mother and father often did as well. It was strange to me, and the fact that they didn’t swear, drink or even own a t.v., they had a computer monitor conected to a vcr. They where the most influential people I have ever ment. It was readingmthe bible that really opened my eyes, most of what I taught was not in the bible, in fact a lot of it contradicted it. My mother of course got scared when I was frantic showing her those contradictions. She brought me to the priest and although he tried to seem like they where nothing, he did not convinced me because I understood what I was reading. All this to say that later on, I started to investigate what happened! How could they be so wrong?? I found what happened with trustwothy sources, like scholars, historians, of course the catholic sources was not truthful, as they minimized what they did in the light of Historians and scholars that where neither protestants or Christian, but where nutral. Yes there are many denominations, but few acknowledges that the bible is the Word of God and should be the ONLY thing we follow.There is no different interpretation of the GOSPEL among bible believing Christians, which is the death, resurection, diety of Christ, faith alone for salvation. Paul responded Christians that where disagreeing with each other, and he did not condemned disagreements of beliefs or opinions, which those are what you brought up. Read carefully. ESV:As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions.2ESV:One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.3ESV:Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him.4ESV:Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.5ESV:One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind.6ESV:The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God.7ESV:For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself.8ESV:For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's.9ESV:For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.10ESV:Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God;11ESV:for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”12ESV:So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.13ESV:Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother.14ESV:I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean.15ESV:For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died.16ESV:So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil.17ESV:For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.18ESV:Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men.19ESV:So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.20ESV:Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats.21ESV:It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble.22ESV:The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves.23ESV:But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.There is 2 subject brought to Paul's attention and his response is how the bible believing Christians also feels about disagreements between believers. Protestants are NOT all Christians like (Mormons, JW and others) there is only a few denominations that hold the bible true and follows what is preach for us. One thing that is not true is how you see the church. The bible CLEARLY teach that the church is ALL believers of the whole Gospel united in Him. Not a system or an institution. If you can read this article of the origin of the word church.//messianicfellowship.50webs.com/church.html read to the very bottom. :)
+France Filiault Thanks for agreeing with some of my thoughts. On the other hand, you post another accusations. I can´t claim that my research is bigger or lesser than what you did... but does it really matters? Consider I agree with your accusations; Do we really need to endlessly tackle all that happened in the past, which you consider as sins or mistakes of people? Nevertheless, the Catholic Church admits we (the members) are also sinners, but who´s not? If we have eyes for the mistakes of others, are we closing it for all the goods have been done? For 2000 years, the CC have been the most charitable institution in the planet, most people didn´t realized. Look around your town, city or states, look at your hospitals, universities, orphanages, and others alike, named after our Saints. Do we not see how the church care most enough about life? The CCC about abortion, gay marriage, death penalty and others. Without those wonderful, spiritually inspired doctrines, authoritative bible teachings... where will you turn to when your thousands of different protestant denominations have different interpretations, disagreeing with each other and each one of them saying they are the ones who are right? That´s what you call DIVISION, NOT Unity! Obviously, it`s divisive and bring about confusions. Jesus, did not say, I will make my church and leave it, and then make again, and again, and again. But its the other way around... for He said, I will be with you til the end, "The Gates of Hell will not Prevail". That´s the infallibility of the True earthly church of God as Jesus laid as the foundation thru His apostles, for almost 2000 yrs ago.My friend, I would like to thank you for your time and effort for showing me your truths... I hope and pray we could unite our truths with each other and be as one. We can never find truth, unless we learned to listen of the truth of others. As Pope Francis said, "we must see our sameness rather than our differences"!"It´s not the man that finds the Truth, but it´s for the man to let the Truth finds him.. because the truth in a person is Jesus Christ, the Son of God." - From the movie, Restless HeartPeace be with you, and may God bless you and your family too! :-)
+Josh Itos Gravidez You are right on the first part, but wrong the second. Yes we are asked to be united in the same mind, but that does not mean to agree with everything we are told, certainly not killing people because they disappointed with you, like the catholic church has slaughters mean in the name of "unity". Protestants simply protested the pope and other traditions that where introduced as doctrine into the church, that where completely not practiced by the apostles and the early church. There are many catholic church that does not agree with the RCC.Your obedience to the Lord should be to read, study and practice what is written in the bible, not following your religion. The Jews where a religious people, with many man made traditions aw well, but that only angered God, and so was Jesus angered when the pharisees got in His way because of those added tradition. The bible shows us many disputes among the christians and the leaders, there wasn't any dogmas or attempts on making the church believe in one set of doctrines. Read for yourself Romans 14 and the book of 1 Corinthians which has as I remember 2 separate disagreements among christians in the first few chapters.God bless
+France Filiault But Jesus said, the only way to bear witness with the Lord is to have unity. Isn´t it true that what He wanted for His followers is to live in peace and harmony with each other, not contradicting each other and throwing false accusations with each other? Protestant means = to protest. Catholic means = Universal. We are One United Universal Christian Church. And we are obedient...for our religion is our obedience to the Lord!
+SamiandIarerad The subject is the same, prophecy. It does not speak of the interpretation of Scripture, but that prophecy comes from the Holy Spirit and not man imagination.Again the bible interprets itself, but the disagreements among protestants is not because the bible is not clear, we understand some doctrines differently, but our salvation remains because our trust and faith is in Christ. As for Matt 16, many early church leaders did not see Peter being the rock, but his and all apostles faith and of course some thinks that the rock is Christ, since scriptures speaks of Him as such.We read that all apostles where given the powers to loose and bound, but there is no mention of any successors having that same powers. Actually the word church is not even the right translation of (ekklesia) ekklesia is derived is (qahal) lhq which simply meant 'assembly, or called out ones, and is not an institution or a bilding. All believers of Christ makes the the body of Christ, and the church is not a body of clergymen but a community united in Christ.Romans 12:4-5 ESV For as in one body we have many members, and the members do not all have the same function, so we, though many, are one body in Christ, and individually members one of another.1 Corinthians 6:19-20 ESV Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.
I should start by noting that the implications of 2 Peter 1:20 differ due to the wording. Yours appears to support your viewpoint, while my translation supports mine. For a perhaps more objective measure, this is what the KJV says:"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."Looking at BibleHub, most translations are similar to this one, but a few are closer to your translation. The KJV makes it more evident that the wording is supposed to mean that we cannot privately interpret Scripture, as opposed to it meaning that we cannot create our own Scriptures ourselves, as you argue (I believe the point you are making).But regarding your points, it is obvious that Scripture does not interpret itself because Protestants clearly often do differ in the Gospel itself. Sure, one could argue that many small doctrines that are not as important could vary, but even big major things vary among Protestants. Things such as methods of baptism (infant/adult, sprinkling/immersion), abortion (100% pro-life, okay in rape/incent), and the death penalty (which Protestant groups such as the Evangelical Lutherans, Methodists, the American Baptist Church, and Presbyterians all oppose, while other churches, such as the Missouri Synod Lutherans, the Southern Baptist Church, and the Assemblies of God all support).And now, you could argue that the ones that differ are not "Bible followers," but then that creates the problem of whose interpretations the Holy Spirit is actually guiding. Clearly God would not lie to us in our interpretations if the Holy Spirit is with us, so the group of Christians who the Holy Spirit is guiding should have infallibility when it comes to doctrine. But there are many passages that can be logically read in multiple ways, and Protestants argue about that a lot. How do know who has the true Prophetic message?The solution is that we have an authority that is infallible when it comes to doctrinal issues. We have someone who is being definitively led to know what the passages in the Scripture mean. As Matthew 16:18-19 says, "And so I tell you, Peter: you are a rock, and on this rock foundation I will build my church, and not even death will ever be able to overcome it. I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of heaven; what you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and what you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven" (GNT). God gave Peter (and therefore his successors, as evidenced by the line "and not even death will ever be able to overcome it") authority in his Church: authority to both interpret Scripture (through the guidance of the Holy Spirit) and to create certain rules for its adherents to follow.God bless.
2Peter17ESV:For when he received honor and glory from God the Father, and the voice was borne to him by the Majestic Glory, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased,”18ESV:we ourselves heard this very voice borne from heaven, for we were with him on the holy mountain.19ESV:And we have the prophetic word more fully confirmed, to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts,20ESV:knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation.21ESV:For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.Peter is speaking of prophecy not coming from man, but coming from the Holy Spirit. He is NOT speaking of the ability to understand scriptures. We can understand scriptures because it interprets itself. Protestants who are bible followers, can differ in some doctrines, but not the Gospel itself, which is the death and resurection of Christ, and that salvation comes through faith alone in Christ. God bless.
Do Catholic doctrines contradict the Bible?
www.catholic.com Trent Horn answers a caller who objects to Catholicism because it teaches things that are contrary to the Bible. After his conversion to the ...
Were not all using the same Bible. The protestants are missing 7 books in
Old Testament. Why? They took out 7 books. The Catholic Church that Jesus
began Matthew 6 16 18 Isaiah 22 the ten commandments John 20 19 23 Jesus
institutes confession giving his authority to apostles Atonement in Old
John 6 51 55 Jesus institutes Eucharist Passover i Old God commanded his
people to eat all of lamb Who was the blameless lamb to represent? Jesus a
foreshadowing of Jesus Messiah Paul says work out your salvation with fear
and trembling Before New we had the Old Testament of Jews The Catholic
faith kept all the books Jesus spoke from. One must understand completely
all of Old Testament to understand correctly the New Testament. The
Catholic faith as safeguarded the early written letters of apostles copied
them painstakingly. The protestant Bible came from the Catholic Church the
rosary is in scripture on the rosary we say the Our Father each day of the
week has what is called a Mystery. The mystery is about life of Messiah.
Monday Joyful speaks about when Angel came to Mary to when Jesus was found
in Temple Tuesday sorrowful speaks of agony in garden all the way to
Crucifixion. Wed Glorious Resurrection to coronation Thrus Lumin. Jesus
baptized instituting of Eucharist Fri sorrowful again we are to think upon
in mind also Hail Mary those words are in scripture The Mass is in
Revelation Mary is in Old Testament Gen 3 15 Isaiah 7 14 Luke Rev Micah
birth of Lord
+Tim Spangler Yes one only attains the beatific vision (which is what going the heaven really means) through grace, but even the rebel on the cross performed good works, because good works are a consequence of receiving grace. But the good works don't get one to heaven though, which happens solely through grace. Yet nobody without good works can be said to be a recipient of grace. It is like saying that Catholics believe one gets to the other bank of the river by getting wet. When what we actually believe is you can only get to the other bank by swimming. It just so happens that if you go swimming you also get wet as the two things go hand in hand. Just like doing good works (getting wet) comes as a consequence of receiving the freely given gift of grace (going swimming).
+Saral Israel Shrestha RIGHT. FAITH IS NOT ALONE. HE HAS A FRIEND. HIS FRIEND IS CALLED GOOD WORKS. EVERY WHERE THEY ARE OR EVERY WHERE THEY GO, THEY WALK HAND IN HAND. THEY LIVE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH FOREVER. PROTESTANTS KICKED OUT FAITH'S CLOSEST BUDDY IN 1517 A.D.FROM THAT TIME ONWARDS FAITH HAS TO WALK ALONE.HE HATES HIS BUDDY NOW. POOR, POOR FORMER BUDDY OF FAITH; MR.GOOD WORKS.BUT HURRAH! NOT SO IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH: THEY ARE STILL BUDDIES IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THEY HAVE BEEN BUDDIES FOR 2000 YEARS NOW AND THEY WILL BE BUDDIES TILL THE END OF TIME. AND THAT WAS WHAT JESUS WANTED THEM TO BE.
+Saral Israel Shrestha false dichotomy. Catholicism has never professed you can earn your salvation by your good deeds. Salvation is a free gift. period--and what salavation really refers to is the possibility of relationship once again with God. So if we are to share in the life of Trinity, itself, as we were created for then we must learn to love like God. The early Church called this process divination, but even this whole process is only a matter of cooperating with grace.
To believe in sola scriptora is to believe the bible as a whole was sent
down at one time and then Christianity had its teachings to start off. They
refuse to acknowledge that during the time the apostles were teaching many
church's would be preaching from the teachings of the old testing the
writings of the apostles to them and the traditions they also received from
them. Otherwise the apostles appear to have done a half hearted attempt in
capturing all their message as 40 authors surely would have taught more
than what was written down.
+energie00 john 21: 25 There was much else that Jesus did; if it were written down in detail, I do not suppose the world itself would hold all the books that would be written.
I tend to argue from this perspective:
To suggest that all a sundry doctrine such as the papacy must be explicit
in scripture, and to demand chapter and verse describing the office, is
akin to the Muslims who demand the verse in which Jesus says "I am God."
They, like the Protestants on those other issues, say "Show me where it
says in the Bible."
From that point I say, but Protestants, we both agree Jesus is God, not
because He said "I'm God," explicitly, but because of what He doesn't say,
or says implicitly. Likewise, Mormons and JWs demand chapter and verse
where Jesus explicitly explains, "I am God, the second person of a Trinity
of persons with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit, consubstantial,
eternal, indivisible." Of, Jesus never says it, at least not in those
terms. That is asking too much of the text. So it therefore becomes clear
to the Protestant, that a) some vital doctrines are implicit, and b) they
required the Church or ecclesial communion to teach the dogma to them.
From then on, I can point to obvious instances, but not necessarily
definitions of the papacy in the Bible, and say, "Just as you were taught
the Trinity and Hypostatic Union from implicit Scripture by your ecclesial
communion out of tradition, so we were taught those and the papacy from our
Church and her traditions stretching back into the 1st and 2nd Centuries.
When you put the Protestant in a perspective that associates him with
Muslims and Mormons, he will realize that he is demanding too much from the
Bible.
Does the Bible say not to Baptise children? Purgatory is in the Bible and I can show it to you. Confession is Biblical. Jesus tells his Apostles: whoever sins you forgive are forgiven. How can an Apostle forgive a sin if it is not confessed to him. Are the Apostle mind readers? I see you are one of those people who believe everything has to be proven from the Bible. Show me in the Bible that where it says I have to prove everything from the Bible? Come one. Show me a verse. We read from the Bible everyday. We actually do two readings.Show me in the Bible where Jesus says he is God. The exact words. Show me in the Bible where God commands his Apostles to write a bible. WORD of mouth is no clear clearer than scripture. Had happened to the Apostles? Did they die from old age?
The truth is that Martin Luther started a religion that denies the true Gospel of Christ. Baptism is Biblican, confession to a priest Is Biblical. The Eucarist is biblical. Apostolic succession is Biblical. Praying for intercession is Biblical. Faith and works is Biblical. Purgatory is Biblical. Faith alone is not in the Bible. Bible alone is not in the Bible. Predestination is not in the Bible. Personal relationship with God Is not in Bible. You have to twist scripture just like you did about Jesus having brothers.
+BornAgain happyfriday Jesus is lord. You ain't teaching anything new. Apostles creed: I believe in one lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God. Born of the father before all ages. If you were a Catholic then please finish the rest of this creed. I bet you can't do it without looking
You'll never understand the true message of God cause your mind is so deluded with false protestant beliefs. Jesus is enough but you think Jesus is a robot. Jesus is enough but he wants his people to work together and not be divided. You protestants decided Christianity. You molested the scriptures. You have deluded the word and that to you guys, Islam is a larger religion.
Ok, so mormons pray to God and he tells them their religion is right. Book of James says if anyone last wisdom come to me. So, do you believe the mormon church is God's church restored? The holy spirit tells them it is.
The Deutero-Canonical books include only 7 additional Old Testament books
in the Catholic Bible; the New Testament is the same for both Protestants
and Catholics, except where some Protestant sects deliberately rewrite
whole portions of the New Testament and distort the language to justify
their theologies. But getting back to the seven extra OT books, one of the
reasons Jewish rabbis hesitated to include them in the Hebrew Bible is
because they were written in Greek and not Hebrew. Thus, there was a
built-in human prejudice for dismissing them, which has nothing to do with
God's will.
+Lee Andreas "1) "all originated after the cessation of prophecy, and they cannot therefore be regarded as inspired, nor are they ever cited by Christ or the apostles"Well, that's not really true. You can do a Google search for Jesus and Apostles quoting Deuterocanon, and you'll find results with evidence to refute this claim. A starting point: //www.scripturecatholic.com/deuterocanon.htmlSecond, is a quote from Jesus or the Apostles a requirement for Sacred Scripture? I think not, or else the books Judges, Ruth, Ezra, Esther, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon, Lamentations, Obadiah, Jonah, and Zephaniah would not be in the OT in any Bible.2) "The Roman Catholic Church did not officially canonize the Apocrypha until the Council of Trent (1546 AD)."They didn't have to solemnly define the Canon until people started questioning it. If I'm not mistaken, the Church solemnly defines things as true when they come into question. In this case, it was Luther's ideas which brought discord and confusion. Therefore, the Church solemnly defined scripture that was already being used. 3) "These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord."See the link I put under #1, and also watch the video once more. If by "Jewish Church" you mean the Jews during the time of Jesus, then you are mistaken. The Jews were divided not only on what their scripture was, but also on fundamental doctrine (e.g. the resurrection of the dead). Why would you follow what the Jews follow instead of what the Christians followed anyway?Peace in Christ.
+jtg3765 maybe you should do your research on the hebrew bible ....... the original texts.... heres a quick low down for you....The Septuagint contains the standard 39 books of the Old Testament canon, as well as certain apocryphal books. The term "Apocrypha" was coined by the fifth-century biblical scholar, Jerome, and generally refers to the set of ancient Jewish writings written during the period between the last book in the Jewish scriptures, Malachi, and the arrival of Jesus Christ. the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox churches include the Apocrypha in their Bible (except for the books of Esdras and the Prayer of ManassehThe Jewish canon, or the Hebrew Bible, was universally received, while the Apocrypha added to the Greek version of the Septuagintall originated after the cessation of prophecy, and they cannot therefore be regarded as inspired, nor are they ever cited by Christ or the apostlesThe Roman Catholic Church did not officially canonize the Apocrypha until the Council of Trent (1546 AD). This was in part because the Apocrypha contained material which supported certain Catholic doctrines, such as purgatory, praying for the dead, and the treasury of merit.Not one of them is in the Hebrew language, which was alone used by the inspired historians and poets of the Old Testament. Not one of the writers lays any claim to inspiration.These books were never acknowledged as sacred Scriptures by the Jewish Church, and therefore were never sanctioned by our Lord.They were not allowed a place among the sacred books, during the first four centuries of the Christian Church.They contain fabulous statements, and statements which contradict not only the canonical Scriptures, but themselves; as when, in the two Books of Maccabees, Antiochus Epiphanes is made to die three different deaths in as many different places.The Apocrypha inculcates doctrines at variance with the Bible, such as prayers for the dead and sinless perfection.It teaches immoral practices, such as lying, suicide, assassination and magical incantation.The apocryphal books themselves make reference to what we call the Silent 400 years, where there was no prophets of God to write inspired materials.The Manual of Discipline in the Dead Sea Scrolls rejected the apocrypha as inspired.The Council of Jamnia held the same view rejected the apocrypha as inspired.The terms "protocanonical" and "deuterocanonical" are used by Catholics to signify respectively those books of Scripture that were received by the entire Church from the beginning as inspired, and those whose inspiration came to be recognized later, after the matter had been disputed by certain Fathers and local churches.Pope Damasus (366-384) authorized Jerome to translate the Latin Vulgate. The Council of Carthage declared this translation as "the infallible and authentic Bible." Jerome was the first to describe the extra 7 Old Testament books as the "Apocrypha" (doubtful authenticity). Needless to say, Jerome's Latin Vulgate did not include the Apocrypha.Cyril (born about A.D. 315) - "Read the divine Scriptures - namely, the 22 books of the Old Testament which the 72 interpreters translated" (the Septuagint)The apocrypha wasn't included at first in the Septuagint, but was appended by the Alexandrian Jews, and was not listed in any of the catalogues of the inspired books till the 4th centuryHilary (bishop of Poictiers, 350 A.D.) rejected the apocrypha (Prologue to the Psalms, Sec. 15)Epiphanius (the great opposer of heresy, 360 A.D.) rejected them all. Referring to Wisdom of Solomon & book of Jesus Sirach, he said "These indeed are useful books & profitable, but they are not placed in the number of the canonical."//video-universe.freeforums.net/thread/674/bible-origins-catholic-church-exposed
keep it simple-why Catholics do not use a Bible
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Why do Catholics have 7 more books in their Bible?
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the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST is you and me. NOT a historical corrupted and
bloody institution called vatican. A filthy institution that started more
than 300 years after the Church was born. The ghost of the roman empire
which has in Constantine, a pagan, using the faith through bribery and
greed in order to unify the empire. THANKS LORD for the Church early
fathers and later the reformers. But throuhgout history, God's people
always resisted the catholic corrupted empire and its indulgences - you
could kill a man if you had paid 1 dollar. Or have all prostitutes you want
for 2.50..and on and on. The catholic councils only confirmed what
Christians already were reading and validated. I feel sorry for catholics
for their enslavement to a religion and NOT to the Word of God. Did you
guys know that in Scotland...around 400 A.D there was an underground
"illegal" Bible College? there the people of God carried on the resistance
of the devil's deeds. Since 333 and the first pope, Constantine, Christians
has been fighting and resisting heresy of catholic doctrines. PRAISE THE
LORD! waldenses and ubigenses were other massive movements of resistance.
Unfortunately they were wiped out by pope genocide. Remember when those
religious blind slaves were led by two popes? one in france and the other
in Italy? both threatening each other etc...The Holy Spirit alwas raised
some group to resist 1000 years of catholic darkness and evil. from 500 to
1500. And the invention of the Press helped freedom a lot! and the People
rejoice!!!
HAHAHAHAH..you're some kind of a NUTTY person who believes everything your dumb pastor feeds you. You said that in the 400 AD there was already an underground place where they studied the bible. what bible is that? the King James bible? If you're not dumb, the Catholics were the FIRST CHRISTIANS. You don't know that don't you? do your research and don't just rely with your pastor who DO NOT KNOW anything about the Catholic church. Don't be dumb like them. do your own research! alright!
+Renz Rivers They used the Scriptures carried on by the apostles and the Christian community. Your corrupted latin translation, not only was done to reinforce your filthy practices but now you used that as some forme of brainwashing confirmation of your own lies. The catholic pagan organization NEVER "made" the Bible. It merely recognized what truly Christians and the apostles used for 400 YEARS. now what? there was no "church" for 400 years?? I need your response quickly. Christians resisted the evil catholic organization from hell since your first pope constantine came about. get over it.
+Giuseppe , still waiting for you reply. I'll repeat my question to you okay? were they using King James Bible in 400 AD at the place in Scotland where you said that the protestants were studying the bible? I need your answer quickly!
Back up your claim and show me proof of your claim and don't tell me of FAX number because i can create stories like you did and make it look like it is true. By the way, the so called reformation started in 16th century and there was no record of protestant churches from the 15th century to the 1st century. NONE. your claim is totally a HUGE LIE!.
+Giuseppe all you do is claim something but you do not have proof of your claim. So, who is telling a lie here. Me or you? POST the PICTURES and the names of your pastors from 400 AD to 2015. Do it now!
+Renz Rivers I understand you are a brainwashed guy, who thinks our King Jesus Christ came to found a building or an organization, but your beliefs are quite in oppostion with the Lord Jesus Christ. .....On the Scottish Island of Iona, in 563 AD, a man named Columba started a Bible College. For the next 700 years, this was the source of much of the non-Catholic, evangelical Bible teaching through those centuries of the Dark and Middle Ages. The students of this college were called “Culdees”, which means “certain stranger”. The Culdees were a secret society, and the remnant of the true Christian faith was kept alive by these men during the many centuries that led up to the Protestant Reformation. Do you want the fax number?? lol
+Giuseppe . you're IGNORANT of the History of the Catholic church... "Illegal bible college? show me the original bible that they used in 400 AD in Scotland...SHOW IT! don't make me call you BIG LIAR because you are already big liar.
Sorry Matthew 16:16-19 proves you wrong. Foul-mouthed Luther's creation lead to years of needless war and division in the Church and created puppet churches under state control.
I bet Luther hated Esther because it completely maps out the end times.
"The entire "chain of command" in defeating Satan in these end times is
very well expressed in the Book of Esther where the Jews (end times
Christians) appeal to Mordecai (last pope) who appeals to Esther (Mary) who
appeals to King Ahasuerus (Jesus) who hangs Haman (Antichrist) and his 10
sons (10 kings of the Antichrist) on a 50 cubit high gibbet (Mary's Rosary)
with a hangman's noose (Mary's Scapular). Mary's Rosary and Scapular are
the two weapons we must learn to use in this final battle with Satan and
his Antichrist" (Tapley, 2015).
+Rosary WMD I am! I don't think any True Christian accept your premise....Our Lord Jesus Christ would never start a human institution, especially a catholic !!! The Church are Bible believing people. Started with the apostles and throughout history we resisted the religious pharisees,While there is no one verse that states that the Bible alone is our authority, the Bible over and over again gives the examples and the admonitions of turning to the written Word as one’s source of authority. When it comes to examining the origin of a prophet’s or religious leader’s teaching, it is Scripture that is appealed to as the standard. Matthew 16? lolThese verses are used by your catholic organization to support your pagan teachings...you pagans teach that Peter was the first pope and that your organization was built upon him. But when taken in context with what takes place in the Book of Acts, you find that Peter was the one who opened up the gospel to the world in the sense that it was he who first preached the gospel of Christ on the Day of Pentecost (Acts 2). It was he who first preached the gospel to the Gentiles (Acts 10). So, the binding and loosing was done through the preaching of the gospel, not through your sinful roman catholic tradition.The roman pagan catholic organization argues that Scripture was given to men by the roman tradition....and therefore has equal or greater authority to it. (wow) But get this brainwashed..... even among YOU pagans...your OWN writings (from the First filthy vatican council),LOL you will find the acknowledgment that the councils that determined which books were to be considered the Word of God did NOTHING but recognize what the Holy Spirit HAD ALREADY made evident. That is, your filthy organization did not “give” Scriptures to men, but simply recognized what God, through the Holy Spirit, had already given. As A. A. Hodge states, when a peasant recognizes a prince and is able to call him by name, it does not give him the right to rule over the kingdom. In like fashion, a roman council recognizing which books were God-breathed and possessed the traits of a God-inspired book, does not give the pagan council equal authority with those books.
+Giuseppe Who are "we" you first refer to? If you love Jesus, why are you not in the Church he started? You read the Bible? Well you can thank the Catholic Church for compiling it for you.
+Giuseppe you are kidding right? How could the prophecy of the head of the serpent be crushed when the serpent is certainly alive? Sadly, you are reading mistranslated Bibles, responsible of the pits of hell.
+Rosary WMD We all know catholics are illiterate in the WORD and full of superstitions...but I can't help but get stunned by their (yours) ignorance. No wonder many catholics are not even saved. They are just followers of a heavy religion full of practices.. Here is your lesson for today below:xx With the death of Christ, our sins became powerless to rule over us (Romans 6). By His death, Jesus destroyed the works of the devil (John 12:31; Hebrews 2:14; 1 John 3:8), condemned Satan (John 16:11), and crushed the head of the serpent (Genesis 3:15).
+Rosary WMD Imagine if a mere human being would do Jesus's Himself job and mission. WOW....Jesus did it already on that Cross. Read your Bible and get saved! unbeliavable.
+Rosary WMD WOW! your comparison is so revealing of a twist sinful mind. Comparing God in flesh with your filthy genocidal men's organization...WOW....
+Giuseppe Even among Jesus' hand picked disciples was the evil Judas! I happen to know that even the Catholic Church will be corrupted with Evil. But that doesn't diminish the fact that the Catholic Church has lasted over 2,000 years and was began by Jesus Christ himself.
+Rosary WMD the CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST is you and me. NOT a historical corrupted and bloody institution called vatican. The ghost of the roman empire which has in Constantine, a pagan, using the faith through bribery and greed in order to unify the empire. THANKS LORD for the Church early fathers and later the reformers. But throuhgout history, God's people always resisted the catholic corrupted empire and its indulgences - you could kill a man if you had paid 1 dollar. Or have all prostitutes you want for 2.50..and on and on. The catholic councils only confirmed what Christians already were reading and validated. I feel sorry for catholics for their enslavement to a religion and NOT to the Word of God. Did you guys know that in Scotland...around 400 A.D there was an underground "illegal" Bible College? there the people of God carried on the resistance of the devil's deeds. Since 333 and the first pope, Constantine, Christians has been fighting and resisting heresy of catholic doctrines. PRAISE THE LORD! waldenses and ubigenses were other massive movements of resistance. Unfortunately they were wiped out by pope genocide. Remember when those religious blind slaves were led by two popes? one in france and the other in Italy? both threatening each other etc...The Holy Spirit alwas raised some group to resist 1000 years of catholic darkness and evil. from 500 to 1500. And the invention of the Press helped freedom a lot! and the People rejoice!!!
The Bible is Catholic - Part 1: The word of God and the Word of God made flesh
In this first week, The Bible is Catholic considers the relationship between the word of God in the Bible and the Word of God made flesh in Jesus Christ.
PART 1 From Carm.org:
If the Bible is a Catholic book, then . . .
Why does it not support the adoration of Mary?
CCC 969, "Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the
titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.'"
CCC 969, "Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but
by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal
salvation . . . "
CCC 966, " . . . You [Mary] conceived the living God and, by your prayers,
will deliver our souls from death."
Luke 11:27-28, "While Jesus was saying these things, one of the women in
the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore
You and the breasts at which You nursed.” 28 But He said, “On the contrary,
blessed are those who hear the word of God and observe it."
Why does it show that all Christians are priests, not just those authorized
by the Roman Catholic Church?
CCC 1673, "When the Church asks publicly and authoritatively in the name of
Jesus Christ that a person or object be protected against the power of the
Evil One and withdrawn from his dominion, it is called exorcism. Jesus
performed exorcisms and from him the Church has received the power and
office of exorcizing. In a simple form, exorcism is performed at the
celebration of Baptism. The solemn exorcism, called "a major exorcism," can
be performed only by a priest and with the permission of the bishop. The
priest must proceed with prudence, strictly observing the rules established
by the Church. Exorcism is directed at the expulsion of demons or to the
liberation from demonic possession through the spiritual authority which
Jesus entrusted to his Church."
1 Pet. 2:5,9, "you also, as living stones, are being built up as a
spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices
acceptable to God through Jesus Christ . . . But you are A CHOSEN RACE, A
royal PRIESTHOOD, A HOLY NATION, A PEOPLE FOR God’s OWN POSSESSION, so that
you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness
into His marvelous light."
Why does it not support confession of sins to priests?
CCC 1424, "It is called the sacrament of confession, since the disclosure
or confession of sins to a priest is an essential element of this
sacrament. In a profound sense it is also a "confession"--acknowledgment
and praise--of the holiness of God and of his mercy toward sinful man.
CCC 1456, "Confession to a priest is an essential part of the sacrament of
Penance: "All mortal sins of which penitents after a diligent
self-examination are conscious must be recounted by them in confession,
even if they are most secret and have been committed against the last two
precepts of the Decalogue; for these sins sometimes wound the soul more
grievously and are more dangerous than those which are committed openly."
1 John 1:9, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to
forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
Why does it condemn the observance of Holy Days of Obligation?
New Years Day, Day of Ascension, Solemnity of Mary, The Ephiphay of Jesus,
Corpus Christi, Assumption of Mary, etc.
Gal. 4:9-11, "But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known
by God, how is it that you turn back again to the weak and worthless
elemental things, to which you desire to be enslaved all over again? 10 You
observe days and months and seasons and years. 11 I fear for you, that
perhaps I have labored over you in vain."
Why does it condemn the making and adoration of images?
CCC 1162, "The beauty of the images moves me to contemplation, as a meadow
delights the eyes and subtly infuses the soul with the glory of God."
Similarly, the contemplation of sacred icons, united with meditation on the
Word of God and the singing of liturgical hymns, enters into the harmony of
the signs of celebration so that the mystery celebrated is imprinted in the
heart's memory and is then expressed in the new life of the faithful."
CCC 2132, "The Christian veneration of images is not contrary to the first
commandment which proscribes idols. Indeed, "the honor rendered to an image
passes to its prototype," and "whoever venerates an image venerates the
person portrayed in it." The honor paid to sacred images is a "respectful
veneration," not the adoration due to God alone."
Ex. 20:4-5, "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of
what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the
earth. 5 “You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your
God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the
children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me."
Lev. 26:1 ‘You shall not make for yourselves idols, nor shall you set up
for yourselves an image or a sacred pillar, nor shall you place a figured
stone in your land to bow down to it; for I am the LORD your God."
Deut. 4:15-18, “So watch yourselves carefully, since you did not see any
form on the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire,
16 so that you do not act corruptly and make a graven image for yourselves
in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female, 17 the likeness
of any animal that is on the earth, the likeness of any winged bird that
flies in the sky, 18 the likeness of anything that creeps on the ground,
the likeness of any fish that is in the water below the earth."
Why does it forbid us to address religious leaders as "father"?
Matt. 23:9, "Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your
Father, He who is in heaven."
PART 2 From Carm.org:If the Bible is a Catholic book, then. . .Why does it teach that Christ is the only foundation and not the apostle Peter?CCC 442, "Such is not the case for Simon Peter when he confesses Jesus as "the Christ, the Son of the living God," for Jesus responds solemnly: "Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven." Similarly Paul will write, regarding his conversion on the road to Damascus, "When he who had set me apart before I was born, and had called me through his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles . . . " "And in the synagogues immediately [Paul] proclaimed Jesus, saying, 'He is the Son of God.'" From the beginning this acknowledgment of Christ's divine sonship will be the center of the apostolic faith, first professed by Peter as the Church's foundation."CCC 936, "The Lord made St. Peter the visible foundation of his Church. He entrusted the keys of the Church to him. The bishop of the Church of Rome, successor to St. Peter, is "head of the college of bishops, the Vicar of Christ and Pastor of the universal Church on earth," (CIC, can. 331)."1 Cor. 3:11, "For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each man’s work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man’s work."Why does it teach that there is one mediator instead of many?CCC 969, "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation. . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."1 Tim. 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus."Why does the Roman Catholic Church exceed what is written in Scripture with its numerous extrabiblical doctrines, i.e., assumption of Mary, purgatory, indulgences?1 Cor. 4:6, "Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, so that in us you may learn not to exceed what is written, so that no one of you will become arrogant in behalf of one against the other."Why does it teach that a bishop [can] be a married man? (1 Tim. 3:2-5).CCC 1579, "All the ordained ministers of the Latin Church, with the exception of permanent deacons, are normally chosen from among men of faith who live a celibate life and who intend to remain celibate "for the sake of the kingdom of heaven." Called to consecrate themselves with undivided heart to the Lord and to "the affairs of the Lord," they give themselves entirely to God and to men. Celibacy is a sign of this new life to the service of which the Church's minister is consecrated; accepted with a joyous heart celibacy radiantly proclaims the Reign of God."CCC 1599, "In the Latin Church the sacrament of Holy Orders for the presbyterate is normally conferred only on candidates who are ready to embrace celibacy freely and who publicly manifest their intention of staying celibate for the love of God's kingdom and the service of men."1 Tim. 3:2, "An overseer [Greek, episkopos, bishop], then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, 3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money. 4 He must be one who manages his own household well, keeping his children under control with all dignity. 5 but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?"Why is it opposed to the pomp and high position of the Pope?Luke 22:24-27, "But it is not this way with you, but the one who is the greatest among you must become like the youngest, and the leader like the servant. 27 “For who is greater, the one who reclines at the table or the one who serves? Is it not the one who reclines at the table? But I am among you as the one who serves."Why does it say that normal people can interpret it when the Catholic Church says it alone has the authority to to interpret Scripture.CCC 100, "The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the bishops in communion with him."Rom. 14:5, "One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind."Why does it say that justification is by faith alone and not by faith and works as the Roman Catholic Church teaches.CCC 2036, "The specific precepts of the natural law, because their observance, demanded by the creator, is necessary for salvation."CCC 2080, "The Decalogue contains a privileged expression of the natural law. It is made known to us by divine revelation and by human reason."CCC 2068, "so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments,"Rom. 3:28, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law."Rom. 4:5, "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness."Rom. 5:1, "Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ."Why does it say that faith in Christ is necessary for salvation and not the church?CCC 846, "How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it."Rom. 3:22, "even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction."Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified."Why does it say that grace cannot be merited as the Roman Catholic Church says?CCC 2010, "Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification."CCC 2027, "Moved by the Holy Spirit, we can merit for ourselves and for others all the graces needed to attain eternal life, as well as necessary temporal goods."Rom. 11:6, "But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace."
Catholic Leaders say do not look to the Bible, look to Rome!
A Catholic and a Jesuit priest discuss the Protestant view of Bible alone for faith and say that this is wrong - They say that the Bible is not enough to sustain faith, ...
thats false teaching the pope is a jesuit and the bible is my final
authority like luther the papacy is trying to undo all that protestantism
has done and trying to establish papal authority the protest is not over
there are people that are ready to protest again it won't be one luther it
will be many this and jesus christ will destroy the man of sin that
antichrist pope with his false doctrine i know the history of the jesuits
and won't be deceive they are cloth in a christian garb but they are
murderers they were responsible for the death of abraham lincon and
president kennedy here is 2 books i recommend one is called -foxes book of
matyrs and the order book is called-the great controversy
amen brother those pope from the old times manipulate those Catholics and this is why I got out of the Catholic Church because it's just a false teaching and its a mans tradition to manipulate people and I only trust in Jesus Christ in His Word and that's all. Authority is in Jesus Christ and not the Pope not the priest not the Vatican Rome no only in Jesus Christ
Most people are literate today and can read the bible for themselves. The
Catholic church believe so much in their own authority, but the bible is
the highest and best source of God's word for the individual. In the middle
ages, the Catholic church would kill anyone who read the bible on their
own. Besides, I don't trust a church which changed the ten commandments,
which is exactly what the Catholic church did.
Faith healers and preachers of various denominations have already joined the ecumenical movement headed by the pagan Roman Catholic Church. They will rise to power and rule with the Beast and the False Prophet, the Anti Christ and will worship Lucifer as the true God when actually he is only a created fallen angel. This is the reason why they want to follow the corrupt traditions of fallen men.
Oh you have got to be kidding me.... When the man at the beginning of this
video said Jesus never mentions scripture being the authority?!!!! Jesus
said HE IS THE WORD!!! and He is Truth!!! This deception of the Catholic
church to make people question the authority of God's Word is in actually
an attempt to make people question Christ Himself!
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is
profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good
works.
+Daniel W You're welcome, brother! I actually saw that on another person's comment and thought it was an excellent Scripture! God bless you in Jesus name!
"The supremacy of the bible as source of faith is unhistorical, illogical,
fatal
to the virtue of faith, and destructive of unity. It is unhistorical."
The catholic encyclopaedia, VOL 12, page 496
Any more proof needed (not mentioninng the inquisition even) that the roman
universal church hates the word of GOD as he preserved it for us in the
KJV? Who calls himself a christian and is a member of the RCC has never
read (or understood) the bible. No discussion possible with spiritually
dishonest people.
I had a Catholic go crazy on me yesterday regarding a post. The rhetoric he posted as a response was sad. Clearly, many of them are not following Jesus and the KJV. I was baptized Catholic myself, so I'm not prejudiced against Catholics. I'm happy to be a born-again Christian and gratefully not following the Vatican.
Hmmm, did Jesus say to pray to statues?? We are to call NO ONE Holy Father
except our Father in Heaven. See how the Jesuits twist and turn....evil
bas.....!
amen brother the catholic VATICANS have tried to twist God words, Jesus Christ is the only one that has the authority and the Catholics Vatican's teach people that they have the Authority to obey them and not God's words is sad, i was catholic but im glad i got out from that false doctrine...
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thank you for your video. I't good to hear a Christian tone. maybe it's
already been answered in other comments. I am a Catholic and I believe it
is reasonable to accept the Septuagent as scripture asdid the Apostlesand
NT Writers (so it seems). As far as I am aware it was after the time of
Christ that the Deuterocanonical books were removed from the Jewish Canon.
I don't understand the reason why Protestants as a whole don't accept these
books as the inspired word of God please can you explain?
The book of Tobit (or Tobias) is obviously not inspired by God because of
the superstition found in the narrative. Compared with level of detail
found in the Bible, the book of Judith is absolutely vague on history and
geography. Wisdom of Solomon is obviously not penned by Solomon himself and
therefore not inspired by God. And the list goes on and on. 2 Timothy 3:16
states "All scriptures are inspired of God." There's good reason why the
books of the Apocrypha are not included in most Bibles.
Lutherans have 66 books in their Bible and Catholics have 73 books. 73 - 66
= ? (7 or 15) Or do Lutherans have less than 66 books? There is another
difference. Since the time the Catholics put together the Bible (OT plus
NT), they have always held it to be the inspired word of God but Lutherans
believe the Bible was in error until the Lutherans corrected it in the
1500s by taking out that which they didn't believe was inspired scripture.
Or am I not seeing something?
Lutherans are a human organization To say that they composed the Bible how
they, as humans, thought was best, implies that that imperfection is
present just like any other human work, because humans are
imperfect(obviously). As Catholics we see that Christ works through the
Church, namely the pope who is the rock on which the rest of the Church is
built. Although we're all imperfect(including the pope) it's Christ that is
the Head(Col1:18) and He leads the Body.
To kxmode - Please bear in mind that when Paul spoke those words to
Timothy, the entire NT had not been written yet. Therefore at the time,..he
was referring to the OT books. So by your logic, one could say that the NT
is not inspired of God,..which of course is false. The early christian
church had no NT in written form for almost the first 400 years of
christianity!! By the way,..I think Maccabees is an excellent book.
kxmode, so if the Bible was in error since the time it was created and put
together until Martin Luther, then how can you trust it is not in error
now? Do you understand what I am saying? Or do you believe the Bible was
the inspired word of God until Luther and then it stopped and Luther took
out what was no longer inspired?
I just read Tobit and Judith. Great stuff. Some theologians believe these
and the other books were taken out by Martin Luther because he didn't
believe they supported his way of thinking. I'm not sure about any of that,
but I find these books to be very interesting.
Please quote the superstition in context and its believe the some gospel
were not penned by the apostles, yet it is inspired nevertheless. God is
the only one who can say what is Inspired because we're all imperfect. Its
Christ who showed us this through Chruch.
God bless the Church. Christ prayed so fervently that we might stay united.
Let us not fight amongst ourselves when the world is trying to tear Christ
himself down. Let us no longer defend our own pride, but defend He who we
should love with all our heart.
I'm finally glad to hear a Christian focus on the commonality of Catholics
and Protestants instead of the constant bickering, fighting and
condemnation between two factions that in essence and substance have much
more in common than they do in difference.
@kxmode what are those reasons? prove it yourself...and how could you say
it that its not inspired by God? EXPLAIN!
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Catholicism is the one true faith, started by Jesus Christ..."and even the
gateß of hell will not prevail against it!" this site says a lot of
lies!ex:we don't worship Mary or statues. you are bigoted and Catholic
haters, basing it on falsehoods and twisting the truth.Catholics are
supposto read the bible, it is the word of God!
the pope is known by catholics as his holiness the pope yes? so why would he call Jesus a "failure at the cross" have you ever called him that? why do the vatican sing hyms to satan? do you do that? where does it say in the bible that people go to heaven? the heavens belong to God! our father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name thy kingdom come thy will be done on EARTH as in thy heavens. thats how brainwashed catholics are when they spout out prayers and don't figure out the meaning.John 5:29King James Version (KJV)29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.let Gods word be true and EVERY man a liar
+The happy Hippy the Catholic church has both good and bad people, like any other church. you may not see Catholics out preaching, but they do. other churches also molest children some at a higher rate than Catholics. the rate of molestation among men is 2%, the same rate as the Catholic church. having said that, we don't want anyone to be molested and have guidelines and reporting rules now. I believe there should be no homosexuals allowed in the priesthood. it is an act of a homosexual mostly on teen boys. as far as sinful Catholics go, it says even the righeous man sins 7 times a day in the bible. it is a mercy to correct, but not good to judge. there are good Catholics and good priests in the church. it, despite it"s problems, remains the one true church in it's FULLNESS of FAITH, the 7 sacraments, all the books of the bible, and the Majesturium of the church guided by the Holy Spirit! God love you!!! The Holy Spirit is inviting you and everyone to join the Catholic church! come and join us!p.s. read on line that 1 out of 1000 get into heaven... that doesn't sound like most people don"t fall short of the glory of God. look at our will. do we put God's will before our will?
i dont hate catholics just the catholic church and its crimes against humanity and against god why would i be trying to save you if i hated you, what can you do in a church that you can't do at home? also Jesus told us to spread his message and yet i don't see any catholics out preaching. thou shalt not kill and yet catholics go to war. thou shalt not steal and yet the catholic church has stolen land, gold,money and children. actually this will be easier let me know how many of thes the church hasn't broken: I am the LORD thy GodThou shalt have no other godsNo graven images or likenessesNot take the LORD's name in vainRemember the sabbath dayHonour thy father and thy motherThou shalt not killThou shalt not commit adulteryThou shalt not stealThou shalt not bear false witnessThou shalt not covet
+Cassie Miller yes Cassie Millerand but when people touched the ark of the covenant they died,however it was carried but not touched. the bronze serpent that Moses made was destroyed because the isrealities began to do the same thing that the catholic church does with its statues and images,
+The happy Hippy the ark of the covenant had 2 images of angels, and Catholics believe in the bible as well as our chaticism. it is intresting how full of hate you sound when you talk about Catholics. love your brother as yourself. why do you think there are so many Catholics? it s the one true faith, and like Jesus was and said, we are persecuted because of it.
+Cassie Miller god says not to have any graven images or idols and yet the catholic church fully endorses them. Mary is NOT the mother of god but the mother Jesus who is the son of god the trinity has been missrepresented for centuries. if men are fallable why be a part of a man made religion full of greed,corruption and discusting acts against humanity when you can worship god at home and with friends keeping your faith pure. keep your catholic views if you want god may still forgive it but the catholic church is most definately the synagogue of satan the bible warns us against please just consider what im saying and look into it im not here to knock peoples relationships with god but it is only through Jesus we are saved not the pope and not a man made religion just Jesus
+Cassie Miller i can tell you that you don't need a statue to help you remember a person, the church does not only use statues or relics as memory's, they are use as luck charms that bring some sort of protection on an individual. . if you not visited the catholic encyclopedia i recommend you read some of their statements as well as other catholic websites, they state that the bible is a died and speechless book which needs to be interpret...they obviously pretend they love the bible and at the same time attack it and exalts their catechism instead. The bible and the catechism dont agree with each other.
+The happy Hippy hey, he's not my precious pope, as you say...I pray for him, but he upsets me when he makes provocative, questions comments! Catholic isn't in the bible, but neither is the word bible the bible is still true, , we still are the true church with all the sacraments and scripture too and the majesturium, which is guided by the Holy Spirit. men are fallable, but not the Holy Spirit.
+Cassie Miller brainwashed much??? since when did jesus start catholicism? please show me the exact scripture that says he did......... oh thats right there are none, romans 3:4 let god be true and every man a liar. get out of the church and go back to your bible NO RELIGION is a TRUE RELIGION if the bible told us one of them was the true religion do you not think the entire christian civilisation would be that religion????? and no i am not a catholic hater as you would put it i am a satan hater and that is who your precious pope worships please look into it instead of following blindly
+Cassie Miller--- the gates of hell had and has already prevail in the catholic church but not on Jesus. Pope john Paul the second try to cast a devil of this one lady at the Vatican and failed many times and just gave up, this lady stayed possessed that not even bishops could control the lady who appear to have super strength. Is this you call that the gates of hell will not prevail ?