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This is spot-on. One of the best videos describing narcissism. I have known
some people who have displayed narcissistic tendencies. You are so correct
about poor communication with others including to counselors & therapists.
Being aloof, distant, & cold as bad traits. Reptilian-like as you said.
Cold empathy & viewing people as instruments & what he or she can get out
of it & selfish tendencies. Not recognizing & tending to others' needs,
emotions. What you said between 2:14 to 3:58 rings true.
Sam, is this why a narcissist never seems to open up and share their deep
inter feelings with anyone? My wife would display these ridiculously sad
looks on her face or cry to show her empathy. However, when she didn't get
the supply she was looking for the sad looks or crying would stop
immediately and turn to anger. I remember a few times during this fake
crying the phone rang and she answered it. The crying stopped and within a
few short minutes she would be laughing with the caller.
it is always very sad for me to see so many seemingly unrelated people
favoriting your videos. this problem appears to be rampant today. i
continue to have my own deep empathy for those who exhibit these qualities.
it is after all, something that has been thrust upon them. they didn't ask
to be horrifically abused and emotionally abandoned from birth. but i do
agree, trying to help a narcissist is self destructive at best. i pray for
them.
You just went straight back to the Middle Ages. Do you honestly believe
this or are you just using this as a kind of "explanation example reason"
or hyperbole? Which do you think is more likely--A) the narc is
psychiatrically different from others and it effects their behavior, or B)
a supernatural entity has entered them, an entity that no one can see or
otherwise mark the existence of, has "possessed" the person. Really?
Wow thank you so much for this video! It was truly amazing! I'm a survivor
of domestic violence & could never understand how my ex husband could treat
me in such a way! I knew something was wrong with him because he lacks
compassion & empathy! I learned about narcissism a few years ago after
leaving him but you truly gave a detailed description of narcissism! It was
as if you were decribing him!
obviously if you haven't got a stable sense of self it would be impossible
to allow yourself to become someone else even for a nano second. Nothing
can't turn into something. Sometimes I think, there HAS to be someone down
there, even if its deeply buried, almost totally destroyed, but thats
probably just because I think to truly be a narc must be unbearable nearly
all the time
i truly believe that narcissists are demon-possessed. they are suffering
because they have let a demon take over their personality and take their
empathy away. i have experience w/ this as i have been possessed and had my
empathy taken away by a demon. i believe that this is essentially whats
wrong w/ narcissists and psychopaths
Ive recently come to terms that I am a narcissist.its only costed me the
family I created, the family who cares for me.no one knows what its like to
just EXISTS...jist to be sn empty shell. All the things people search for
in life I can never apart of. I'm my mind, I'm dangerous to others
personality & emotions.
I will never forget the day my father was diagnosed with cancer - at the
time I was stil married to my now ex husband , that first night I could not
stop crying my ex said to me "I don't know why you are getting so upset ,
he's not dead yet!"
Dear Sam, I am so grateful for you to be able to translate so very well
narcissism and I wanted to thank you for explaining my entire history so
very well. You truly are a threat to many psychiatrist's incomes. Thank you
again and bless you
my "husband" used to refer to me as "his DeLyla". And when I quit giving
"her" the same unconditional love I gave "him", "she" said I was not
DeLyla. Devaluating me to to point of denying my very existence.
Fake empathy is same as no empathy. Empathy is private and not visible from
outside, so it cannot be faked. I think it could be repressed empathy,
which actually exists but does not influence actions.
I recently observed what I call "full-circle" empathy, where they feel so
horribly compassionate for others that it incompacitates them. Still being
all about them and their feelings!
Positive emphaty is love Negative emphaty is hate but what the hell is cold
emphaty? it cant be empathy if it is unrelated to emotions it is just
modeling or theory of mind.
I would like to know what your opinion is on my "full-circle empathy"
observation, is it true empathy to allow the tragedy of the world to take
down your own life?
Empathy? Furious Debate: Edwin Rutsch vs. Sam Vaknin
Listen to Edwin Rutsch and Sam Vaknin furiously debate empathy and its manifestations in narcissists and psychopaths. First uploaded here: ...
I Believe you can learn to fake empathy based on the defined word and
that's why we fall for them as partners they mirror what we want and give
it based on that mirroring.. I do think narcissists have empathy based only
for themselves and when they look in there own mirror they know they are
not what they want to project to others ... Cold empathy
Not entirely OT, but wasn't the lesson of his, to be quip, that he advised against opening your mouth at all? Because every single thing you say could be interpreted every single which way? Which explains his rubber boots, the quirky accent, and his christian beliefs being so personal they were private until after his death ?Private language.. What's the point of that anyway? To speak of others in their presence? Intimacy? Hm.. May just be my temporary lapse of imagination, but I think I missed the context. I'll shut up now and listen for it.
You got Vaknin backwards: I said that Wittgenstein was the first to suggest the possibility of the existence of a private language, not that he thought that private languages actually exist: //plato.stanford.edu/entries/private-language
Furthermore, if the narcissist is by definition estranged from his own
emotions and has not learned how to experience them in an authentic manner
then how on earth could they empathise with someone else, and do that inner
comparison? I would add that it is a choice. Narcissism is a choice. It is
something that can be unlearned. To submit to the diagnosis means to submit
to this inner refusal.
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I would argue that the point Sam is driving home is irrelevant in the case
of empathy. Of course the emotion I refer to as 'sad' may not be the same
as the emotion you experience as 'sad', but the purpose of empathising is
for connection- so this is the language we have ascribed to these emotions
in order for us to communicate. In the interchange, the dialogue, if we are
empathising we are recognising aspects of the emotional experience of the
other person in our own repertoire of emotional experience but not
necessarily experiencing an IDENTICAL emotion or mirroring them. The
question is, if the purpose of this interchange is intimacy and connection,
why does the emotion have to be identical? That would be impossible, as
everyone is unique. If everyone was the same, we would not require this
process.
I disagree. Sometimes the difference between two different types of crying - happy and sad - is unrecognizable. We always run the "danger" of incorrectly identifying emotional states and therefore there are situations when we have to be careful with our statements, for example in front of a jury.Magicians and illusionists are experts in fooling people. But it's not them being great at what they do, it's us being bad at calling their bluffs. Our perception is not nearly as great as we often think it is. A lot of the time we walk around and don't realize how incorrect our world view is.
I partially disagree with Sam premise "there is no way to objectively prove
my sadness is your sadness"
Body chemical reactions and brain activity are a way to approximate if you
are "Sad" or "Happy", maybe we cant figure it out at a 100% level of
exactitude, but for sure modern science can tell if two subjects are
feeling "the same" emotion based on the reactions been manifested trough
their biology, body & brain.
+Sam Vaknin I understand and agree whit what your saying, Tho', trough different methods of "reading" the our biology's outputs, we can match certain patterns which can be inferred as "compatible".That is if we accept the premise we are biologically built the same way.If we are, and our brain activity works along the same guides, then by reading our different biological outputs we can determine if two patterns are 80% alike or not, there for, we can affirm, two people are very probably feeling the same Feeling, not necessarily the feeling strength, or the thought process that triggered this emotional reaction.
If you and I are having the same emotion is does not mean that we are EXPERIENCING this emotion in an IDENTICAL way. Actually, it is much more reasonable to assume that the way you feel sad is NOT the same way that I feel sad. Simply because you are you and I am not you.
The Altruistic Narcissist
How can a narcissist be altruistic when that goes against his lack of empathy trait? Narcissistic altruism is about feeling superior and exerting control over others.
Yes, this is Tim's behaviour again. He kept saying to me that we were kind
because we gave to others and it didn't mean that he was weak because he
was kind. I believe he did all this to gain friends and get his
narcissistic supply and also so when he gets rid of his better half (which
there were 3 a head of me) no one ever believes the partner how he abused
and treated her. He has put up a good front of being kind and generous. He
would also complain about having to help people out after he had offered
help in the first place.
they are complete opposite, can't place them together. Can't be connected
to Altruism if your efforts have predetermined selfish rewards. May use
altruism as a disguise but not truly altruistic.
A personal account of me mirroring a sociopath in a social setting. I still don't know if the sociopath viewed my actions as 'an educated empath' or did the ...
+Tanquray Jones In general, if someone is mesmerized looking into someone's eyes, their facial expression and body language will match the sentiment. A sociopathic stare is cold and uninviting.
You did a good job to pick up the eye contact right away in that situation.
I feel that often we miss that. You have to be alert right at the first
moment of meeting these types because that's the time they size you up. I
don't think they're smart enough to discern whether you're one of them or
an empath at that stage. I think they're testing to see if you're weak or
strong (self-assured or easily intimidated). Great video as usual!
+Sacha Slone Playing dumb has helped me in dealing with these types because they "reveal" themselves. It's been easier to "read" them when they think I'm just an idiot who doesn't have a clue. You gather a lot of data from someone who thinks you're too stupid to see through their façade.
+Narcissists Happen Do you personally always 'challenge' toxic people whenever you meet them or do you also 'play dumb' depending on the situation? I'm curious to hear your thoughts, if you've already made a video on this topic, please post the link or your video title. :-) I think this is a great topic to discuss: the pros and cons of challenging toxic people.
I think when they make direct eye contact like that they are "testing" to
see if you are a potential enemy or target. After years of dealing with a
N/P I really have came to the conclusion that those are really only the two
ways they see people. They either view someone as a person who sees them
for what they are or someone they can get supply from.
+Sacha Slone It's kind of frightening ye enlightening at the same time to actually observe how they function.I've also seen two N/P individuals meet each other for the first time and they do the same staring but they don't hold the gaze for long and also it's really strange but they seem to figure out that thy both are N/P individuals and quickly disconnect and separate from each other if possible. It's almost like they "respect" one another to not invade each others area or energy.
+Blessed Butterfly You are right, I've read that sociopaths are absolutely 'studying' us when they are 'staring' at us, either directly in the eyes or from a distance. The two times I've been 'stared down' by sociopaths, I kept thinking 'are they aware of how ridiculous they are?' I knew exactly what they were doing, therefore it took away their power to dominate me. I suppose in the past, before I knew about sociopathic traits, I just thought the person was socially inept, lol.
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