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Christians dont want war. No god fearing people do! Only Atheists that use religion to Justify war. I Care little if a man is "Muslim" Hindu etc it means nothing to me. God guides me to love peaceful people through the heart not a BOOK and the heart wants peace! Israel committed great crimes in the name of the Jews I have Jewish friends it saddens them so much to see such evil associated to the love of god. the EGO Is the most primitive form of mind. I am sorry if I offended you but its time we put the past in the past and evolve before we destroy the world. True knowledge comes in the realisation that their is no them and us only we

+supernerd carlini How did I use the good name of the peace loving Christians in a bad way ?

+Jedad Ruled Im an English white man. I take no "Sides" here just do a lot of research and I can see you have been taught what Rothschild wants you to believe not the truth! Such EGO Based hatred in those words! And please dont use the good name of the peace loving Christians in such a way. Its not fair

+Vintage Museum I may start respecting muslims when they apologize to the jews.Muhammed started an islamic conquest which butchered more than half of the christian world , nearly all of the jewish world and many others were massacred in the name of Allah. ISIS is nothing new in islam, they are inspired by Muhammed and they follow the Quran .When jews returned to their homeland all islamic neighbors attacked.Muslim from Palestine worked together with Hitler to exterminate the jews.I applaud them jews for taking back their Jerusalem.Christian should do the same and take back North Africa and make it green again. Islam has made deserts all over the ME.

+M.D.seriously . the contradictions in what you say is unbareble. please don't waste my time with your non sensereligion  IS discriminationreligion IS contradictionyes i am aware of the colonialism , i condemn it and i agree most of the atrocities committed today have they roots in colonialismbut you religion , like any other religion , IS COLONIALISM . if you don't understand this than please don't waste my time with you tiny brainyour religion , like any other religion , is ignorance , barbaric behavior , prehistoric ,please join me in the 3rd century , where knowledge and reason rules the world

+stefano19827 but the thing is, religion is against discrimination. In islam, a hadith stated there is no difference between an arab and a nonarab except in faith. Also, discrimination is a thing of evil created by man to create divisions in order for a few people to attain power and money. in islam, we don't even have a class system. There's no father, or head of church, or priests. there are some sheikhs and imams whos jobs are to lead in prayer just because they're usually the oldest, wisest, and most knowledgable about the quran and faith. but, I believe ignorance and greed bred this nonsense hatred. The golden ages of Islam was lived with jews, and with anyone who entered the islamic empire because even in islam and in every religion people accept what you are as you are, yes, I would rather you believe in God, but I have no authority to make your brain think and believe in God, this is not how it works. ....it's just..the middle east has been in a shit hole for the past 100 years or so due to colonilism that created divisions in lands and prevented education. Go to lebanon or algeria, they SPEAK FRENCH. That's how badly they affected the education that they forced a foreign language. but...augh... middle east is now supposed to represent islam now apparently neglecting the fact that turkey, indonesia, maltives islands and malaysia are muslim countries where you never hear of any horrible tales created by the interventions of the west and bred through ignorance.

I was there twice last year and can tell you that is complete nonsense, it isn't even close to the truth. I encourage you to go and stay there for a holiday, you simply won't see anything like that happen no matter how hard you look. A number of the muslims I met were hanging out with Orthodox, Catholic and Evangelical Christians!

+paulandmarian Palestinian Christians are leaving bethlehem because muslims are beating them to pulp in the streets

+Yahuda101 - I'll leave you alone now, but I enjoyed the conversation. You're right that this could go on forever. I know you've encountered all these arguments before. I doubt I have much new to bring to the table. Mostly I hope Dr. Brown's books and videos will make an impact on you. He refutes all your points. I'll just end with my hope that someday Jesus does pay you a visit. He's always standing at the door. I hope you'll open it.

+ProphecyPodRadio Zechariah - Chapter 11 Zechariah is specific about dating his writing (520–518 BC). This was about the time of the return of the Jews from exile. Zechariah - Chapter 11 was prophesy of the destruction of the second Temple. Now lets look at the history of the last years of the second Temple.During the time of Jesus Israel was under Roman rule and occupation! Rome collapsed due to internal corruption, and all the states and land that Rome ruled, corruption followed!  Now a little history lesson.  Herod the Great also known as Herod the Great and Herod I was a Roman client king of Judea, referred to as the Herodian kingdom. He has been described as "a madman who murdered his own family and a great many rabbis", "the evil genius of the Judean nation”, "prepared to commit any crime in order to gratify his unbounded ambition".  Vital details of his life are recorded in the works of the 1st century CE Roman–Jewish historian Josephus. (Herod’s tyrannical authority has been demonstrated by many of his security measures aimed at suppressing the contempt his people, especially Jews, had towards him. For instance, it has been suggested that Herod used secret police to monitor and report the feelings of the general populace towards him. He sought to prohibit protests, and had opponents taken away by force.When it came to building the Temple Herod truly outdid himself, and even the Talmud acknowledges that the end-result was spectacular. "He who has not seen Herod's building, has never in his life seen a truly grand building." (Talmud-Bava Basra 4a)Herod saw fit however, to place at the main entrance a huge Roman eagle, which the pious Jews saw as a sacrilege. A group of Torah students promptly smashed this emblem of idolatry and oppression, but Herod had them hunted down, dragged in chains to his residence in Jericho, where they were burned alive.Having built the Temple, Herod took pains to make sure it would be run without future problems of the Jewish people that objected to the corruption of the Temple. He appointed his own High Priest, having by then put to death forty-six leading members of the Sanhedrin, the rabbinical court. So what does all this have to do with Jesus being a Rebel? Jesus saw this corruption and preached against resulting in the anger of Rome and King Herod! But Jesus never pointed the finger at the Jewish people as a whole. For as Paul had said in Romans 11Romans 11 King James Version (KJV)11 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying,And John speaks ofI know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. ~ REV. 2:9The synagogue of Satan is the Temple that King Herod had corrupted.I'll continue in another post

+ProphecyPodRadioBut those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. [Luke 19:27]Perhaps the verse above from Luke 19 has been the Christian justification for the slaying of so many Jews throughout the centuries, simply because we still reject Jesus.And in Luke 22:36, Jesus tells his disciples to go and buy swords.So we see that here again, Jesus, a violent man, could not have been the peace-loving servant who did 'no violence,' as described in Isaiah 53.Finally, there is one verse in the Isaiah passage which describes the servant as living a long life and having children:...he shall see his offspring, he shall prolong his days; [Isaiah 53:10]But quite obviously, Jesus was never married and had no children. He also died in his thirties, at a young age. Christians may respond by saying that Isaiah meant Jesus' disciples by the word, 'offspring,' or that the Christians themselves are like his children, but the word in the Hebrew is 'zerah,' which means seed, and can only refer to one's blood-line descendants, his children. One can see this clearly in the following passage from Genesis 15:2-4. Abram is afraid that he has no biological heirs, the only one to inherit him is his servant, Eliezer, whom Abram calls his 'ben,' his son. However, Gd tells him that it will not be his ben, his son, to inherit from him, but rather his seed, his 'zerah..'And Abram said, 'Etrnl Gd what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, and the son (ben) of my house is this Eliezer of Damascus?' Then Abram said, 'see to me you have given no seed (zerah = biological child), and see the son ('ben') of my house is my heir.' Suddenly the word of Gd came to him, saying, 'that one will not inherit you. None but him that shall come forth from within your bowels shall be your heir.' [Genesis 15:2-4]So again we see that Jesus did not fulfill the description of the servant in Isaiah 53 because he had no seed, which means no children, no offspring.For the sake of argument, let us assume that Isaiah was making a prophecy of his future, rather than interpreting his past as the past-tenses of his speech indicate. In that case, Isaiah 53 could be applied not only to the People of Israel in the days of Isaiah, but also throughout history. Try re-reading the Isaiah passage, but think of the Jewish victims of the Holocaust, the pogroms, the Inquisition, the Crusades, or other Christian persecutions of Jews, as you read it. Ask yourself, what violence did these Jews do to deserve the fate they endured at the hands of Christians?Jesus did not fulfill this 'prophecy' of Isaiah 53, nor did he fulfill any of the real and important prophecies concerning the true Messiah.

+ProphecyPodRadioThere is also evidence in the Christians' New Testament that Jesus was a handsome man, whose company was desired by others:'And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature, and in favor with God and man.' [Luke 2:52]This is not what we read in Isaiah. One verse in Isaiah 53 describes the servant as a loner, without anyone to call a friend:He was despised and rejected by men. [Isaiah 53:3]Isaiah 53:3 is not describing a man who, at one point in his life, is rejected by some, but rather one who has known rejection throughout his life. But in many places within the Christians' New Testament, like the above quotation from Luke 2:52, Jesus is described as having a huge following, from the beginning of his ministry all the way to the scene at the crucifixion:But when they tried to arrest him, they feared the multitudes, because they held him to be a prophet. [Matthew 21:46]And as they led him away, they seized one Simon of Cyrene, who was coming in from the country, and laid on him the cross, to carry it behind Jesus. And there followed him a great multitude of the people, and of women who bewailed and lamented him. [Luke 23:26-27]See also Mark 14:1-2; Matthew 4:24-25; 21:9,11; Luke 4:14-15; 7:11,12,16-17; 8:4,19,45; and John 12:11, 42So we see that unlike the servant described in Isaiah 53:3, Jesus was neither despised nor rejected by all men, and instead, he maintained a large following even up until he was crucified.Two quotations from the Isaiah passage describe someone who remains silent when accused by his captors, one who is innocent of any wrongdoing:...like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth. [Isaiah 53:7]...and there was no deceit in his mouth. [Isaiah 53:9]But there is one quotation in the Christian's New Testament that states that Jesus did rebuke his captors and in so doing did in fact 'open his mouth.'When he had said this, one of the officers standing by struck Jesus with his hand, saying, 'Is that how you answer the high priest?' Jesus answered him, 'If I have spoken wrongly, bear witness to the wrong; but if I have spoken rightly, why do you strike me?' [John 18:22-23]In the above quotation, Jesus rebukes his captors for what he considers mistreatment. He demanded an explanation of why he had been struck. In 'opening up his mouth' to rebuke his captors, he contradicts his own idea of 'turning the other cheek,' found in Matthew 5:39. This makes Jesus a hypocrite, and hypocrisy is a form of deceit because it deceives people in to doing what the deceiver himself does not do.One of the verses in the Isaiah passage describes an innocent man of peace:...although he had done no violence... [Isaiah 53:9]But most people are familiar with at least one of the many acts of violence that Jesus did: the 'cleansing of the Temple:'And Jesus entered the Temple of God and drove out all who sold and bought in the Temple, and he overturned the tables of the money-changers and the seats of those who sold pigeons.' [Matthew 21:12]Furthermore, in the version of this act of violence in John 2:15, it states that Jesus made for himself a scourge or whip, with which to beat the people in the Temple:And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables... [John 2:15]Although a Christian might say that the violence done by Jesus in the Temple might have been justified, the verse in Isaiah describes one who had done 'no violence' at all to make him deserving of the persecution he received. Jesus was seen by Rome as an insurrectionist, and that is why they crucified him. The Christians' New Testament states that the accusation placed above his head by Rome read, 'This is Jesus, the King of the Jews,' as we see in Matthew 27:37 as well as in Mark 15:26. His crime, according to the accusation for which he was crucified, was in trying to be the King of the Jews in place of the Emperor in Rome. The violence he perpetrated brought attention to him, and for that violence he was seen as an insurrectionist, and so he was crucified.Above, it was stated that the Jews were the servant of Isaiah 53. Some may argue that the Jews certainly did violence over the millennia, and that is true, but the Jews did no violence to deserve their persecutions. What violence did the Jews of Europe perpetrate to deserve the Holocaust?Furthermore, those who 'bought and sold in the Temple' were there because of Gd's command. In Deuteronomy 14:24-26, Gd told the Jews to sell the animal they wanted to sacrifice for money, take the money to Jerusalem, and then after changing the money to the local currency, to buy the same type of animal and sacrifice it. Therefore the money changers and sellers of sacrificial animals were supposed to be there, as commanded by Gd:And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the Etrnl thy Gd shall choose to set his name there, when the Etrnl thy Gd hath blessed thee: 25 Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the Etrnl thy Gd shall choose: 26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the Etrnl thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household. [Deuteronomy 14:24-26]There are other places in the New Testament that describe Jesus's violence. Here are a few more examples.In Mark 11:12, Jesus condemns an innocent fruit tree to death because it did not have any figs on it for Jesus to eat, even though it was not even the fruit season:And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter forever. And his disciples heard it. And in the morning, as they passed by, they saw the fig tree dried up from the roots. And Peter calling to remembrance saith unto him, Master, behold, the fig tree which thou cursedst is withered away. [Mark 11:12-14; 20-21]Jesus also stated that his purpose in coming to earth was not for the sake of peace:Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. [Matthew 10:34-36]Jesus states in the following that those who won't accept him should be slain. In almost all Christian interpretations of the parable in which the following verse is found, Jesus is understood to have been the ruler who speaks:

+ProphecyPodRadioThis shows that Jews subscribed to the belief that the people of Israel were the suffering servant spoken of throughout the entire passage, and this pre-dates Rashi by many centuries.Before we look directly at Isaiah 53, we must first ask a question. The Bible is explicitly clear, as we read in Deuteronomy:Every one is to be put to death for his own sin. [Deuteronomy 24:16]This is also found in Exodus Chapter 32:And the Etrnl said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book [Exodus 32:30-35]and again in Ezekiel Chapter 18:Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.' [Ezekiel 18:1-4; 20-24; 26-27]Please note that in Ezekiel 18:20 it does not say that the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon the righteous, but rather the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon the wicked.Repeatedly, consistently, and without any need of interpretation, the text literally and clearly states that the person who sins is the person who gets the punishment for the sin. The question we must ask in light of the Christian interpretation of Isaiah 53 is, When did Gd change His mind? If, indeed, 'every man is to be put to death for his own sin,' then the only way one can interpret Isaiah 53 to mean the opposite, that Jesus died for your sins, is if Gd changed His mind, or He did not mean what He said when He said, 'every man is to be put to death for his own sin.' Understand that the interpretation Christians give to Isaiah 53 is exactly that, an interpretation, and an erroneous one, as we can see when we examine it in light of other verses from Scripture.Read the passage from Isaiah 52:13 to Isaiah 53:12 again. Certainly, if one does not read carefully, it does sound a lot like a description of a man who dies for the sins of others. How do Jews explain that the life and death of Jesus is not reflected in these verses?First of all, it should not surprise you that the life and death of Jesus seems to be reflected within the verses of Isaiah 53. This is no coincidence. Remember that the Hebrew Scriptures came before Jesus. The authors of the Christians' New Testament could use images they found in the Hebrew Scriptures and create stories about Jesus to fit those images.The Hebrew Scriptures served as blueprints do to an architect. But instead of constructing a building, the authors of the New Testament constructed stories about Jesus. This is not only true for Isaiah 53, but is also true for many of the other biblical texts that stories of Jesus seem to fulfill. Whenever a story seems to fit biblical prophecy, the story of Jesus was probably accommodated to the images found in the Hebrew Scriptures. By comparing different renditions of the same story in two different Gospels, one can easily see that stories were written about Jesus to make it appear that Jesus fulfilled prophecy.Let us look, for example, at two versions of the story of the entrance of Jesus into Jerusalem. Please note that Matthew describes Jesus riding upon two animals while Mark describes Jesus riding upon one.'And when they drew near to Jerusalem and came to Bethpage, to the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, saying to them, 'Go into the village opposite you, and immediately you will find an ass tied, and a colt with her; untie them and bring them to me. If anyone says anything to you, you shall say, 'The Lord has need of them,' and he will send them immediately.' This took place to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet, saying, 'Tell the daughter of Zion, Behold, your king is coming to you, humble, and mounted on an ass, and on a colt, the foal of an ass.' The disciples went and did as Jesus directed them; they brought the ass and the colt, and put their garments on them, and he sat thereon.' [Matthew 21:1-7]'And when they drew near to Jerusalem, to Bethpage and Bethany, at the Mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples, and said to them, 'Go into the village opposite you, and immediately as you enter it you will find a colt tied, on which no one has ever sat; untie it and bring it. If anyone says to you, 'Why are you doing this?' say, 'the Lord has need of it and will send it back here immediately.' And they went away, and found a colt tied at the door out in the open street; and they untied it. And those who stood there said to them, 'What are you doing untying the colt?' And they told them what Jesus had said; and they let them go. And they brought the colt to Jesus, and threw their garments on it; and he sat upon it.' [Mark 11:1-7]Why is it that the two stories, supposedly describing eyewitness reports of the same event, are so different? Of course one might respond by saying that eyewitnesses will describe the same event differently. But these stories are supposed to be 'Gospel Truth' and inspired by Gd. Matthew again makes it seem as though Jesus were fulfilling a prophecy concerning the Messiah by riding upon two animals. If this is indeed a prophecy, then according to Mark, Jesus did not fulfill the prophecy, because according to Mark, Jesus entered Jerusalem while riding on only one animal.Why then is there a difference between the two stories? To understand this you must examine the source of the prophecy concerning the Messiah, Zechariah 9:9-10:Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout aloud, O daughter of Jerusalem! Lo, your king comes to you; triumphant and victorious is he, humble and riding on an ass, on a colt, the foal of an ass. I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the war horse from Jerusalem; and the battle bow shall be cut off, and he shall command peace to the nations; his dominion shall be from sea to sea, and from the River to the ends of the earth. [Zechariah 9:9-10]Was Zechariah talking about one ass or was he talking about two asses? Matthew understood Zechariah to be talking about two animals, so he wrote his story about Jesus riding on two. Mark understood Zechariah to be talking about one animal, so he wrote his story about Jesus riding on one. Zechariah was talking about only one animal. He was using the ancient form of Hebrew poetry which involves a rhyming by repetition of idea not of sounds. Look at almost any Psalm and you will see this clearly. By the way please note that the Zechariah quotation also tells us that the Messiah 'commands peace to the nations,' (compare this with Jesus' own statement in Matthew 10:34) and that the Messiah shall rule 'from sea to sea,' which of course Jesus never did.Many of the passages in the Christians' New Testament contradict the image described in Isaiah 53. No matter how hard the authors tried to create stories about Jesus that would fit images found in the Hebrew Scriptures, the factual stories about the man Jesus were also recorded by them, and it is these stories that deny any messiah-ship of Jesus, as well as contradict the image of the Suffering Servant in Isaiah 53. Let us take a closer look at what Isaiah 53 says, and then compare it with other passages from the Christians' New Testament.Two verses in the Isaiah passage describe the servant of the Lord as having been either too ugly to be human in appearance, or too plain-looking to make us notice him:...his appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance, and his form beyond that of the sons of men. [Isaiah 52:14]...he had no form or comeliness that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. [Isaiah 53:2]But every single picture painted of Jesus shows a man who was both handsome and tall and generally muscular, as any carpenter would be. These texts from Isaiah are not referring to The Servant at only a single time and place, like after a scourging, or crucifixion, but rather it refers to the way The Servant looks, in general, to the non-Jewish world.

+ProphecyPodRadio You said "We read that He would be a sacrifice for sins, executed with criminals, buried with the rich; and even though He would die, He would see the fruit of His sacrifice, Isaiah 53. "The answer to this is lengthily and I'll have to post it in parts, so please bear with me.To missionary Christians, Isaiah 53 is the perfect description of the life and death of Jesus. Because it is so perfect a description, they feel that Jesus must have been the Messiah because he seems to have fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah 53.Some of these Fundamentalist Christians are told that this is so perfect a description of Jesus that the Jews are forbidden to read it! Furthermore, they are told that the Jews read from the Prophets every week in their religious services, but the 53rd chapter of Isaiah was intentionally left out of those readings because it is so obviously a description of Jesus.No part of the Jewish Bible was ever censored by the Jewish people; at no time were Jews forbidden by Jewish authorities to read certain parts of the Bible. Had the Jews wanted to censor any part of the TaNaCH (the Hebrew Bible), they simply would have removed it from the TaNaCH to begin with, or not included it in the Canon. It was, after all, the Jews, specifically the Rabbis of the post second-Temple period that determined what would, and what would not, be in the Bible.Of course, it is a matter of history that Christians were not allowed to read the Bible on their own. Translators of the Bible were killed by the Church because they made the Bible accessible to the common people.The reason that Jews do not read Isaiah 53 at any time of the year during a weekly service is that there are no parallels to Isaiah 53 in the Torah (the Five Books of Moses: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy). Remember that the portion from the Prophets (the 'Haftarah') is read because there was a certain time when Jews were forbidden by non-Jews to read from the Torah on pain of death. In order to remind the people what the Torah portion would have been, sections of the Prophets were chosen which were parallel to -- or contained references to -- the actual Torah portion. After the Jews were once again allowed to read from the Torah, the custom of reading the Haftarah remained because it enhanced the meaning of the Torah.An example of this can be shown from the Haftarah reading for Genesis 1:1, the Creation story. On the Sabbath morning when this portion is read, the parallel reading from the Prophets is Isaiah 42:5-12, 'Thus says God, the Lord, Who created the Heavens and stretched them out...'Isaiah 53 does not parallel anything in the Torah, and therefore it was not chosen to be read as a Haftarah portion.The only reason Christians believe that the Jews are forbidden to read Isaiah 53 is that they cannot understand how the Jews can read Isaiah 53 and not immediately admit that Jesus was its fulfillment and therefore the Messiah. Of course, as we shall see, there are quite a few reasons why the Jews do not view the prophecy of Isaiah 53 as being fulfilled in Jesus.Despite what we have just stated, as you read the text of Isaiah 53, you may indeed see within the verses what seems to be a description of Jesus. There is a reason for this which we shall discuss below.Please understand and keep in mind that the quote from Isaiah 53 shown above is, indeed, a mistranslation of the original Hebrew. However, we are using it here because it is the (mis)translation most often used by Christian missionaries.Let's look at just two of the many mistranslations in the quote.In verse 5, the text is translated as 'But he was wounded FOR our transgressions, he was bruised FOR our iniquities.' The mistake is that the prefix to the words meaning 'our transgressions' and 'our iniquities' is the Hebrew letter mem. This is a prepositional prefix meaning 'from' and not 'for.' A more accurate translation would be, 'But he was wounded FROM our transgressions, he was bruised FROM our iniquities.' This means that Isaiah 53 is not talking about a man who died 'for our sins,' but rather it is about a man who died 'BECAUSE of our sins,' or 'AS A RESULT of our sins.' In other words, they died because we sinned against them by murdering them. This, indeed, is the Jewish understanding of Isaiah 53: the nations of the earth will finally understand that the Jews have been right all along, and the sins committed against the Jews by the nations of the earth resulted in the death of countless innocent Jews.In verse 9, the text is translated as, 'And they made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death.' However, this last word in the Hebrew should be translated as 'in his deaths,' because the word appears in the Hebrew in the plural. The text reads, 'b'mo-taYv.' The Hebrew letter, Yod, indicated by the capital Y in the transliterated word, indicates the plural, as anyone who knows Hebrew would know. To read, 'in his death,' the text would have to read 'b'moto.' Since the word 'b'mo-taYv' actually means 'in his deaths,' then for Jesus to fulfill this verse, he must therefore come back to earth and die at least another time. The Jews, personified as the servant as we shall see below, have fulfilled this verse time and time again, because countless millions have died an undeserved death.As you read the above verses, you may have been reminded of the image of Jesus, how he lived and how he died. You may be wondering why Isaiah 53 is not a prophecy concerning the Messiah which Jesus fulfilled, according to the Jewish understanding of the passage.According to Jewish tradition, Isaiah was writing about the People of Israel personified as The Suffering Servant of the Lord. There are no less than 8 quotations that show this to be the case. Please note that in the following four quotations, all from the Book of Isaiah, it is the People of Israel who are called the Servant of Gd:But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the offspring of Abraham, my friend. [Isaiah 41:8]Remember these things, O Jacob, and Israel, for you are my servant; I formed you, you are my servant; O Israel, you will not be forgotten by me. [Isaiah 44:21]For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my chosen, I call you by your name, I surname you, though you do not know me. [Isaiah 45:4]And He said to me, 'You are my servant, Israel, in whom I will be glorified.' [Isaiah 49:3]And see also Isaiah 43:10; 44:1; 48:20, 49:7Isaiah 43:10 is a very interesting verse.Ye are my witnesses, saith the Etrnl, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no Gd formed, neither shall there be after me. [Isaiah 43:10]The above verse tells us that the Jewish People are plural when Gd uses the term 'witnesses,' but the People of Israel are also referred to in this same verse in the singular in the word, 'servant,' the very same word that we find in Isaiah 53.Furthermore, Isaiah 43:10 states that there will be 'no Gd formed,' which means that Jesus, who was formed in Mary's womb well after Gd spoke these words in Isaiah 43:10, cannot be Gd.From the many above quotations we can see that Isaiah 53 was referring to the People of Israel as a Suffering Servant of the Etrnl, just as in all of the quotations which came before Isaiah 53.Christian missionaries will claim that the Jewish Biblical commentator Rashi made up the association of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 with the People of Israel personified. This is simply untrue, which can be proven from the writings of Christians themselves well before Rashi was born. In 'Contra Celsum,' written in 248 C.E. (some 800 years before Rashi), the Christian Church Father Origen records that Jews contemporary with him interpreted this passage as referring to the entire nation of Israel. He wrote:'I remember that once in a discussion with some whom the Jews regard as learned I used these prophecies [Isaiah 52:13-53:8]. At this the Jew said that these prophecies referred to the whole people as though of a single individual, since they were scattered in the dispersion and smitten, that as a result of the scattering of the Jews among the other nations many might become proselytes.' (Origen, Contra Celsum, trans. Henry Chadwick, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, Book 1.55, 1965, p. 50)This can also be found on the internet at Early Christian Writings. Scroll down to Chapter LV. 

+ProphecyPodRadio This will never end, because I can refute everything you say. Daniel 9:24-27Daniel - Chapter 924Seventy weeks [of years] have been decreed upon your people and upon the city of your Sanctuary to terminate the transgression and to end sin, and to expiate iniquity, and to bring eternal righteousness, and to seal up vision and prophet, and to anoint the Holy of Holies.CommentarySeventy weeks [of years] have been decreed: on Jerusalem from the day of the first destruction in the days of Zedekiah until it will be [destroyed] the second time.to terminate the transgression and to end sin: so that Israel should receive their complete retribution in the exile of Titus and his subjugation, in order that their transgressions should terminate, their sins should end, and their iniquities should be expiated, in order to bring upon them eternal righteousness and to anoint upon them (sic) the Holy of Holies: the Ark, the altars, and the holy vessels, which they will bring to them through the king Messiah. The number of seven weeks is four hundred and ninety years. The Babylonian exile was seventy [years] and the Second Temple stood four hundred and twenty [years].Jesus was not the king MessiahHere is my proofG-d's word on who the Jewish messiah is:He must be a member of the tribe of Judah, Genesis 49:10Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 4910 The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the student of the law from between his feet, until Shiloh comes, and to him will be a gathering of peoples.( Virgin birth means Jesus was not of the tribe of Judah. ( In Judaism, tribal lineage cannot be from the mother or through adoption.)He must be a direct descendant of King David and King Solomon, his son. 2 Samuel 7:12-13.Shmuel II - II Samuel - Chapter 712 When your days are finished and you shall lie with your forefathers, then I will raise up your seed that shall proceed from your body after you, and I will establish his kingdom.13 He shall build a house for My name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever.( Jesus wasn't , again virgin birth and if natural birth, Matthew has Jesus descendant through David's son Nathan and the cursed line of Jeconiah).Matthew 1King James Version (KJV)11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;The curse:Yirmiyahu - Jeremiah - Chapter 2224 As I live, says the Lord, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim, king of Judah, be a signet on My right hand, from there I will remove you.25 And I will deliver you into the hand[s] of those who seek your life and into the hand[s] of those you fear and into the hand[s] of Nebuchadrezzar, king of Babylon, and into the hand[s] of the Chaldees.26 And I will cast you and your mother who bore you, to another land where you were not born, and there you shall die27 But to the land to which they long to return there, there they shall not return.28 Is this man, Coniah, a despised, shattered image, or a vessel in which there is no use? Why were he and his seed cast away, thrown to a land they know not?29 O land, land, land, hearken to the word of the Lord.30 So said the Lord: Inscribe this man childless, a man who will not prosper in his days, for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting on the throne of David or ruling anymore in Judah.If you believe in the virgin birth of Jesus, then he is not of the Tribe of Judah because in Judaism tribal lineage only passes through the natural father not the adopted father or the mother.If you believe that Jesus was born of human parents, then he is not descended from the line of King David and his son Solomon. The Gospel of Matthew traces the lineage of Jesus through King David and his son Nathan and the cursed line of Jeconiah.So according to G-d, Jesus does not fit the bill.And, even if Mary could trace herself back to King David, it still wouldn't help Jesus. According to the Torah, the mother (the matrilineal) determines if someone is Jewish (Deuteronomy 7:3-4), but tribal affiliation and family genealogy can only be traced through the person's father (the patrilineal in accordance with Exodus 28:4, 29:9-30, 30:30, and 40:15 [Priesthood Lineage]; Numbers 36 [Tribal Lineage]; Genesis 49:10, I Kings 11:4, and I Chronicles 17:11-19 [Kingship Lineage].).For instance, in Numbers, chapter 1, verse 18, we're told that the Jewish people declare their pedigrees according to their fathers' houses. When Queen Athaliah wanted to eliminate the Royal Line of David, she only killed the males knowing full well that a female descendant of David couldn't pass on the right to the throne (II Kings 11; II Chronicles 22).The fact that the daughters of Zelophchad inherited their father's property (Numbers 27) doesn't prove that genealogy can be passed through the daughters. This is borne out by Numbers 36, where they are told that they must marry someone from their father's tribe, otherwise the inheritance would pass out of their family.Proof with citations as per G-d's words in the Torah that Jesus/Yeshua is not of the tribe of Judah and therefore ineligible to be the Jewish messiah.It is claimed that Psalm 22:16 foretells the piercing of the hands and feet of Jesus. Now let’s look at that verse from the King James Bible. Psalm 22King James Version (KJV)16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.But is that what it really says? Let’s look at this scripture as it is written within the Tanakh, which is the Hebrew Bible.Tehillim - Psalms - Chapter 2215 I was spilled like water, and all my bones were separated; my heart was like wax, melting within my innards.  16 My strength became dried out like a potsherd, and my tongue cleaves to my palate; and You set me down in the dust of death.17 For dogs have surrounded me; a band of evildoers has encompassed me, like a lion, my hands and feet.Commentary on verse 17like a lion, my hands and feet: As though they are crushed in a lion’s mouth, and so did Hezekiah say (in Isa. 38: 13): “like a lion, so it would break all my bones.” like a lion, my hands and feet: As though they are crushed in a lion’s mouth, and so did Hezekiah say (in Isa. 38: 13): “like a lion, so it would break all my bones.”Now there is reference to Isaiah 38: verse 13. Let us take a look at                    Isaiah 38 Verse 13.Yeshayahu- Isaiah - Chapter 3813 I made [myself] until morning like a lion, so it would break my bones; from day and night You shall finish me.Commentary on Verse 13I made [myself]: myself all night to suffer the tortures of the illness, and I strengthened myself like a lion to suffer.so it would break my bones: Comp. (Ex. 1:12) “So they would multiply and so they would spread.” The more I would strengthen myself, so the illness would overpower me to break all my bones.So it appears to me, that the prophesy of being pierced is not being pierced at all.I'll continue in another post 

+Yahuda101 - we will continue to disagree about atonement. I will say only one more thing about that. Both the man and woman were ran through by Phineas. On the cross, Jesus' side was pierced. He was ran through. When Jesus was taken to the temple as a baby to be presented before the Lord, there was a devout man named Simeon there. He had been promised by the Holy Spirit that he would see the Messiah. Luke 2:34-35, "And Simeon blessed them and said to Mary His mother, "Behold, this Child is appointed for the fall and rise of many in Israel, and for a sign to be opposed-- and a sword will pierce even your own soul-- to the end that thoughts from many hearts may be revealed." Mary witnessed the crucifixion of her Son. Her soul was pierced through. I know it's shaky, but I find it interesting.I am familiar with Bar Kokhba and I do realize you mentioned that God takes no pleasure in sacrifice. I thought I'd said, "as you know", but I am recovering from oral surgery and was not at my clearest this morning, plus it's been impossible to sleep and I'm "running on fumes". My apologies if I forgot that. I don't mean to lecture at you. I know that you know scripture. I don't mean to imply you don't.However, Jesus fulfilled countless Messianic prophecies. (I'm going to copy and paste from my non-fiction book below.)In scripture, we see the Messiah would come before the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD, Daniel 9:24-27. We see He would be of the tribe of Judah, Genesis 49:10, Luke 3:33, Hebrews 7:14. He would be born in Bethlehem, Micah 5:2, Matthew 2:1, Luke 2:4-6. We see in Psalm 22 that He would suffer a painful, humiliating death. Jesus Himself pointed to Psalm 22 on the cross by quoting its first verse. (As you know), a common practice of rabbis was to quote the opening of a passage when teaching from that portion of scripture. Jesus had done it before when reading in the synagogue. He was teaching with His dying breath that He was fulfilling that psalm; in essence saying, “Pay attention. Look at this psalm of David. Look at my hands and my feet; see how they gamble for my garments; hear how they mock me; see how none of my bones are broken. I am fulfilling this today.”We are told His side would be pierced, Zechariah 12:10, John 19:34. We read that He would be a sacrifice for sins, executed with criminals, buried with the rich; and even though He would die, He would see the fruit of His sacrifice, Isaiah 53. (Seeing the fruit of His sacrifice speaks of His Resurrection.) He was given vinegar to drink, Psalm 69:2, Matthew 27:34, John 19:28-30. He was betrayed for the price of a slave, and the money was used to buy a potter’s field, Zechariah 11:12-13, Matthew 27:9-10. He was rejected by His own people, Psalm 69:8 and Isaiah 53:3; but He became a light for the Gentiles, Isaiah 49:6. And Isaiah said He would be called Immanuel, God with us, Isaiah 7:14.These are but a few of the Messianic prophecies Jesus fulfilled. There is a series at Day of Discovery with Dr. Michael Rydelnik called "My Search for Messiah." He goes over the prophecies that led Him to realize Jesus was the promised Messiah. You might be interested in it. //dod.org/programs/my-search-for-messiah-part-i/Also, are you familiar with "Science Speaks" by Peter Stoner? He and his students worked on a project calculating the odds of Jesus fulfilling just 8 prophecies. The students calculated that the odds of one person fulfilling all eight of the prophecies they examined were one in ten to the 21st power. You can see more about that here: //y-jesus.com/what-are-the-odds/

+ProphecyPodRadio Bamidbar - Numbers - Chapter 2513 It shall be for him and for his descendants after him [as] an eternal covenant of kehunah, because he was zealous for his God and atoned for the children of Israel." Atonement also can, and does come from punishment, this is just plain common sense. When a parent punishes their child, the child is not held to their infraction afterward, their infraction was atoned.   atonedto make amends or reparation, as for an offense or a crime, or for an offender (usually followed by for): to atone for one's sins. 2. to make up, as for errors or deficiencies (usually followed by for): to atone for one's failings.Think about it, how many times has the people been referred to as G-d's children.  Your comment takes no pleasure in all the sacrifices. If you will remember, I commented about that before.In the third chapter of Hosea, the prophet foretold with divine exactness that the nation of Israel would not have a sacrificial system during the last segment of Jewish history until the messianic age. Hosea declares,Hoshea - Hosea - Chapter 34  For the children of Israel shall remain for many days, having neither king, nor prince, nor sacrifice, nor pillar, nor ephod nor teraphim.5 Afterwards shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God and David their king, and they shall come trembling to the Lord and to His goodness at the end of days.Who can argue with verse 5?If the prophet is testifying that the nation of Israel will indeed be without a sacrificial system during their long exile until the messianic age, what are we to use instead? How are the Jewish people to atone for unintentional sin without a blood sacrifice during their bitter exile? What about all the animal sacrifices prescribed in the Book of Leviticus? Can the Jewish people get along without animal offerings? Missionaries claim they cannot.The Bible disagrees.For this reason, the teaching highlighted in Hosea 14:2-3 is crucial. In these two verses, Hosea reveals to his nation how they are to replace the sacrificial system during their protracted exile. The prophet declares that the Almighty wants us to “render for bulls the offering of our lips.” Prayer is to replace the sacrificial system. Hosea states,Hoshea - Hosea - Chapter 142  Return, O Israel, to the Lord your God, for you have stumbled in your iniquity3  Take words with yourselves and return to the Lord. Say, "You shall forgive all iniquity and teach us [the] good [way], and let us render [for] bulls [the offering of] our lips.Jesus didn't do anything that prophesy said the mashiach would do.On the contrary, another Jew born about a century later came far closer to fulfilling the messianic ideal than Jesus did. His name was Shimeon ben Kosiba, known as Bar Kokhba (son of a star), and he was a charismatic, brilliant, but brutal warlord. Rabbi Akiba, one of the greatest scholars in Jewish history, believed that Bar Kokhba was the mashiach. Bar Kokhba fought a war against the Roman Empire, catching the Tenth Legion by surprise and retaking Jerusalem. He resumed sacrifices at the site of the Temple and made plans to rebuild the Temple. He established a provisional government and began to issue coins in its name. This is what the Jewish people were looking for in a mashiach; Jesus clearly does not fit into this mold. Ultimately, however, the Roman Empire crushed his revolt and killed Bar Kokhba. After his death, all acknowledged that he was not the mashiach.

+Yahuda101 I wanted to specifically focus on Numbers 25:13, and I especially wanted to ask you about כָּפַר (kaphar). Atonement. The text specifically says they were an atonement. I think it's difficult to explain that away, especially in the Torah... though your commentary tries.  As you know, life is in the blood and the wage for Adam's sin was death, so blood had to be shed in atonement. And it flowed for centuries in either the Tabernacle or the Temple. Yet God said in Isaiah 1:22 that He takes no pleasure in all the sacrifices. The shed blood of animals only made temporary atonement, so the blood continued to flow. It stopped within a generation of the death of Jesus (like He'd prophesied) as the Lamb of God who takes away sin once and for all.I know nothing is in the Torah by accident. There is a purpose in everything God wrote or inspired Moses to write. I just wonder if part of the reason could possibly be that God knew His people would reject Jesus for the reason you do, or at least one of the reasons you do. The account might actually be there as a legal precedent for a coming human atonement for sin -- or a foreshadowing. (Plus a preemptive strike in the argument).Whatever the case, the text specifically states it was an atonement.And all those sacrifices and Holy Days pointed to something. I assert they pointed to Jesus. The suffering servant of Isaiah 53, for the "Lord has caused the iniquity of us all to fall on Him, (v 6)... The Lamb led to the slaughter. (v 7)I just pray you'll ask God if Jesus really is the Messiah -- not to convert you to Christianity but to bring you to the Jewish Messiah. Your Messiah.

+ProphecyPodRadioThe Golden CalfOnly a tiny portion of Jews participate in worshiping the golden calf. So why blame the whole nation? The day for this infamous event is forever marked in the Hebrew calendar -- 17th of Tammuz. This would be the day later in history on which the walls of Jerusalem would be breached by the Babylonians and the Romans prior to the destruction of both the first and the second Temple.It is very important to analyze what happened with the golden calf and why the Torah criticizes the Jewish people so harshly for this sin. And indeed what is revealed here about how God views the Jewish people.After the greatest national revelation experience in human history when the whole nation hears God, Moses goes up the mountain and comes down 40 days later to find people dancing around an idol.Now if I'd had an encounter with the Infinite Creator of the Universe speaking to me and I heard Him say "I am God, don't worship anything else," I don't think I would be stupid enough to be jumping around a golden cow. So what's going on in this story?This is a classic case of knowing how to correctly read the text of the Bible. When I say correctly read, I mean, ideally in Hebrew but certainly with the commentators because there's an oral tradition that must be studied along with the simple, very brief description in the text.When Moses came down the mountain, were all 3 million Jews dancing around a golden calf? No. The Torah in Exodus 32:28 says it was only about 3 thousand people, mostly the mixed multitude of individuals who left with the Jews because they were so impressed by what went on with the Ten Plagues.1That means that only about .1% of the Jews (one in a thousand) participated and 99.9% of the Jews did nothing wrong, (although the majority's failure to stop the minority from worshipping the Golden Calf was considered a mistake). Yet God's reaction makes it clear he is blaming the whole nation.LOVE ISN'T BLINDWe already mentioned that amongst all ancient books the Bible is unique in its objective criticism and that the purpose of this criticism is to educate. But why the hyper-criticism?One of the great untrue expressions of all time is "love is blind." Infatuation surely is but true love has a magnifying glass for faults. To love someone means to focus on the beauty and positive within that person. This doesn't mean that you don't see their faults, but rather that you associate that person with their positive attributes. (Hate is of course the opposite).An excellent practical example of this is your mother. She probably loves you more than any other person on earth yet she surely knows you faults better than anyone (yet she still loves you!).Far worse than an overly strict parent is a parent who is neglectful.If we transplant this parent analogy to God (aka Our Father in Heaven) then the hypercritical nature of the Torah begins to make sense. While God is the God of all humanity, He has a special relationship with the Jewish people and constantly "has an eye" on them. He deliberately overstates the Jewish people's faults and mistake to get them to pay attention -to hammer home in the strongest possible language vital lessons that we must learn.AN EXACTING STANDARDGod holds the Jews to a very high standard because they have a unique responsibility in human history. The world won't get perfected without the Jews and if, God forbid, the Jews blow it, all of humanity, not just the Jewish people, will be doomed. Therefore, the Bible uses hyper-critical language to bring home some important principles:1. According to your level of knowledge is your level of responsibility. Even the small mistakes of people in positions of power have huge consequences.2. According to your level of responsibility is your level of accountability. The greater you are, the bigger the impact of your decisions, therefore you must be held to an extremely high standard of accountability.The Jewish people had been given the ultimate responsibility for the world at Mount Sinai, and these principles explain the criticism that God levels against Jews and why it is so over-stated.We also learn here another fundamental idea of the Torah -- that every Jew is a guarantor for every other Jew. The nation of Israel is a "body" and the individual Jews are like cells in this body. If part of the body does something wrong, the whole body is held accountable.Judaism teaches you're either part of the problem or you're part of the solution, and that you have a legal obligation to be part of the solution. Being a by-stander is not an option. (Till today, the Bible is virtually the only moral/legal code in the world that demands that you actively do good as epitomized by the expression "...go in His ways." (Deut. 28:9)2 )This theme of collective responsibility repeats itself over and over again in the Bible and throughout Jewish history.That's why when a small group of Jews does something wrong and the rest of the nation doesn't stop them, all are held accountable.THE AFTERMATHAs a sign of God's displeasure, He distances himself from the Jewish people and the Tent of Meeting (Moses's tent for communicating with God) is moved outside the camp. Moses spends a lot of time back in the camp dealing with the aftermath of the golden calf debacle. He smashes the idol, gathers loyal Levites around him and executes those responsible. (As you might have noticed the Bible is not a liberal book. While it is full of the merciful acts of God, it also emphasizes that there are serious consequences for wrongdoing.)He goes back up the mountain on the 1st of Elul -- Rosh Chodesh Elul. Elul is the month before Rosh Hashana, before 1st Tishrei, the beginning of the Jewish year. He spends forty days on the mountain again. He comes back down with the second set of tablets, and this is a clear sign that God has forgiven the Jewish people. What's the day Moses comes back down? Yom Kippur.As already mentioned, each Jewish holiday has a specific theme or focus. While these holidays are linked to specific historical events, on a deeper level they are connected to the different spiritual forces embedded with in the yearly cycle. Each holiday in the cycle touches on a fundamental concept is serves as a opportunity for growth in our relationship to God.From Yom Kippur we get the spiritual power of teshuva -- of repentance, of returning to closeness with God and repairing relationships with our fellow human beings.As a sign of forgiveness God tells Moses He will again dwell among the Jewish people, and He instructs how His "home" is to be built."They shall make for Me a sanctuary and I will dwell among them." (Exodus 25:8)Following this command, the Torah spends many chapters giving intricate descriptions just exactly how to build this portable sanctuary.The sanctuary consisted of a large tent -- called a "Tent of the Meeting" or Tabernacle -- surrounded by a courtyard. Inside the courtyard was an altar where sacrifices were offered. In the tent were two rooms. The outer room held a seven-branched candelabra, a table with twelve loaves of bread on it, and an incense altar. The inner -- called the Holy of Holies -- held the Ark of the Covenant. 

+ProphecyPodRadio You should know that the Torah tells us about the anger of G-d, and his punishments. The story of the harlotry with the daughters of the Moabites Bamidbar - Numbers - Chapter 25 was a punishment, not a human sacrifice to the Hebrew G-d. Here is that story.1 Israel settled in Shittim, and the people began to commit harlotry with the daughters of the Moabites.2 They invited the people to the sacrifices of their gods, and the people ate and prostrated themselves to their gods.3 Israel became attached to Baal Peor, and the anger of the Lord flared against Israel.4 The Lord said to Moses, "Take all the leaders of the people and hang them before the Lord, facing the sun, and then the flaring anger of the Lord will be removed from Israel.5 Moses said to the judges of Israel, "Each of you shall kill the men who became attached to Baal Peor.6 Then an Israelite man came and brought the Midianite woman to his brethren, before the eyes of Moses and before the eyes of the entire congregation of the children of Israel, while they were weeping at the entrance of the Tent of Meeting.7 Phinehas the son of Eleazar the son of Aaron the kohen saw this, arose from the congregation, and took a spear in his hand.8 He went after the Israelite man into the chamber and drove [it through] both of them; the Israelite man, and the woman through her stomach, and the plague ceased from the children of Israel.sacrifice: the act of giving up something that you want to keep especially in order to get or do something else or to help someone: an act of killing a person or animal in a religious ceremony as an offering to please a god: a person or animal that is killed in a sacrificepunish: to make (someone) suffer for a crime or for bad behavior: to make someone suffer for (a crime or bad behavior): to treat (someone or something) severely or roughlyIn this case it was to suffer the pain of death.Another good example of punishmentGolden calfThen Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said: 'Whosoever is on the LORD's side, let him come unto me.' And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him. And he said unto them: 'Thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel: Put ye every man his sword upon his thigh, and go to and fro from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour.' And the sons of Levi did according to the word of Moses; and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men. (Exodus 32:26-28)Now this brings up another misconceptionIn another post

+Yahuda101 I've been thinking of you and praying for you. I want to wish you happy Purim. I know this is early, but I'm afraid I'll forget on the actual day. Also, I've been thinking about your comments regarding the sacrifice of Isaac, and I wanted to ask about Phineas in Numbers 25. Those he struck down were an atonement that satisfied God's justice. Do your Rabbis view that as a human sacrifice for sin? If you don't want to answer that here, please contact me through my about page.

+ProphecyPodRadio VA was doing good up until two years ago. Now the clinic cannot keep good doctors. Maybe someday Jesus will pay me a visit. 

+Yahuda101- thank you for your service. I know our soldiers returning from Vietnam were treated like dirt. It angered me then. It angers me now. I hope the VA Hospital is doing right by you.And I hope someday you know that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah.Blessings.

+ProphecyPodRadio Everybody needs something, and you have a right to it.Don't feel like the Lone Stranger. I also had my awaking when I stood at the tunnel of life, looking into the bright light coming from the gates of heaven. But as it turned out it wasn't my turn to go to heaven, I woke up in the recovery room just as I started to step into the light, looking into the face of a beautiful nurse.I'm 65 years old, disabled Vietnam Vet.   

+Yahuda101 - I'm almost 60 and I've only been a Christian for 17 years. Before that I was a cross between new age and Wiccan. I hated Christians, wasn't too fond of Jews, and despised the Bible -- all of which I learned from my culture. You're probably far more tolerant of Christians than I ever was, but everyone I knew mocked and hated Christians and despised the Bible. I did grow up in a nominal Christian home, and in my teens I considered myself a Christian, but I didn't really know doctrine. I just knew how to decorate a Christmas tree. By my second year at University, I had rejected the Bible as a pack of lies and Jesus as a lunatic. Believe me, the views I hold today have not been held by me the majority of my life. My whole thought life, emotional life, physical life, actions, attitudes, habits, interests... everything... changed 180 degrees... in an instant... from the time my knees hit the floor until I rose up again. It was then that I knew what it meant to be a Christian. It was then that I knew what it meant to be born again... born of God. Everyone who knew me was asking, "What happened to DL? Have you seen DL angry? Have you heard DL cuss?" I was known for my irreverent sense of humor, anger, violence, foul mouth, and contempt for all organized religion. And all of it was gone. It didn't exist in me anymore. I'm the last person in the world anyone would have ever considered as a candidate for a disciple of Christ or a proponent of the Bible.

I don't have a problem at all with the New Testament! I strongly suggest you ask yourself this question.Have you ever read the New Testament for yourself? Have you ever really looked at Jesus without your culture telling you how to view Him? If not, I hope you will. The leaders of His dayYou see, it works both ways.

+Yahuda101 - The Rabbi's commentary sounds like a convoluted attempt to find a way around a problem. We see prophecy acted out elsewhere in scripture, especially in Ezekiel. Is it possible that the sacrifice of a beloved son at that location, commanded by God, is as simple as Christian commentaries suggest? A prophetic act that foreshadowed a much greater sacrifice, specifically God's Son at that same location? I hope you will at least consider it.Have you ever read the New Testament for yourself? Have you ever really looked at Jesus without your culture telling you how to view Him? If not, I hope you will. The leaders of His day called Him Rabbi and Doctor and Teacher of the Law, and since He divided time and changed history, He seems worthy of serious study on just an historical basis alone, especially by Jewish people since He is the most well-known Jew of history. The only way to really know who He was and what He taught is to read the accounts of those who lived with Him and died for Him. No reputable scholar will deny that the disciples all believed they had seen the risen Messiah. They were all Jewish. Isn't what they said and what they did worth at least considering by Jewish people today? Especially since all of it was backed up with a resurrection and a bunch of Jewish men who died horrifically because they were never willing to deny what they had witnessed with their own eyes. Aren't you at least a little curious about them and what they saw?I understand the history and the persecution carried out against Jewish people in the name of Christianity, and I am ashamed of it, but all of that was in violation of what Jesus and His disciples taught. And I'm ashamed of Christians today who carry on different kinds of persecution. Quite honestly, they disgust me. I hold them in contempt and consider them useful idiots for Satan.If you have studied the New Testament then may I ask you what it is that you most have a problem with? It certainly isn't because it's anti-Semitic, though there are some things in it that might be misconstrued as anti-Gentile.

+ProphecyPodRadio That may be your interpretation, but if you will notice Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 22Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 221 And it came to pass after these things, that God tested Abraham, and He said to him, "Abraham," and he said, "Here I am."2 And He said, "Please take your son, your only one, whom you love, yea, Isaac, and go away to the land of Moriah and bring him up there for a burnt offering on one of the mountains, of which I will tell you."9 And they came to the place of which God had spoken to him, and Abraham built the altar there and arranged the wood, and he bound Isaac his son and placed him on the altar upon the wood.10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand and took the knife, to slaughter his son11 And an angel of God called to him from heaven and said, "Abraham! Abraham!" And he said, "Here I am."12 And he said, "Do not stretch forth your hand to the lad, nor do the slightest thing to him, for now I know that you are a God fearing man, and you did not withhold your son, your only one, from Me."for now I know: Said Rabbi Abba: Abraham said to Him,“ I will explain my complaint before You. Yesterday, You said to me (above 21:12): ‘for in Isaac will be called your seed,’ and You retracted and said (above verse 2): ‘ Take now your son.’ Now You say to me, ‘ Do not stretch forth your hand to the lad.’” The Holy One, blessed be He, said to him (Ps. 89:35): “I shall not profane My covenant, neither shall I alter the utterance of My lips.” When I said to you,“ Take,” I was not altering the utterance of My lips. I did not say to you,“ Slaughter him,” but,“ Bring him up.” You have brought him up; [now] take him down. — [from Gen. Rabbah 56:8]Commentary for verse 12He said to him,“ Do not do the slightest thing (מְאוּמָה) to him.” Do not cause him any blemish (מוּם) !- [from Gen. Rabbah 56:7] He said to him,“ Do not do the slightest thing (מְאוּמָה) to him.” Do not cause him any blemish (מוּם) !- [from Gen. Rabbah 56:7]for now I know: Said Rabbi Abba: Abraham said to Him,“ I will explain my complaint before You. Yesterday, You said to me (above 21:12): ‘for in Isaac will be called your seed,’ and You retracted and said (above verse 2): ‘ Take now your son.’ Now You say to me, ‘ Do not stretch forth your hand to the lad.’” The Holy One, blessed be He, said to him (Ps. 89:35): “I shall not profane My covenant, neither shall I alter the utterance of My lips.” When I said to you,“ Take,” I was not altering the utterance of My lips. I did not say to you,“ Slaughter him,” but,“ Bring him up.” You have brought him up; [now] take him down. — [from Gen. Rabbah 56:8]Now if you carefully read the commentary, you will see that G-d said unto Abraham2 And He said, "Please take your son, your only one, whom you love, yea, Isaac, and go away to the land of Moriah and bring him up there for a burnt offering on one of the mountains, of which I will tell you."Notice, because G-d cannot lie, he didn't say “ Slaughter him,” but he said,“ Bring him up.”Now lets look at the commentaryCommentary for verse 12He said to him,“ Do not do the slightest thing (מְאוּמָה) to him.” Do not cause him any blemish (מוּם) !- [from Gen. Rabbah 56:7] He said to him,“ Do not do the slightest thing (מְאוּמָה) to him.” Do not cause him any blemish (מוּם) !- [from Gen. Rabbah 56:7]for now I know: Said Rabbi Abba: Abraham said to Him,“ I will explain my complaint before You. Yesterday, You said to me (above 21:12): ‘for in Isaac will be called your seed,’ and You retracted and said (above verse 2): ‘ Take now your son.’ Now You say to me, ‘ Do not stretch forth your hand to the lad.’” The Holy One, blessed be He, said to him (Ps. 89:35): “I shall not profane My covenant, neither shall I alter the utterance of My lips.” When I said to you,“ Take,” I was not altering the utterance of My lips. I did not say to you,“ Slaughter him,” but,“ Bring him up.” You have brought him up; [now] take him down. — [from Gen. Rabbah 56:8]

+Yahuda101 - Thank you. As you know, though, I'm Christian and I do believe Jesus died for sins. I noticed on your Google+ page a comment about how God abhors human sacrifice so Jesus didn't die for sin. I believe that was your comment. I didn't read all of that, so maybe this was already addressed, but why did God command the human sacrifice of Isaac? What was the reason? Do you think it had any prophetic significance? As a Christian, I see it as a pointer to Christ. The sacrifice that God Himself would provide in His own Son was foreshadowed in the sacrifice of Isaac. I also believe some traditions in Judaism teach that Isaac actually was sacrificed and then resurrected. That seems like an even clearer foreshadowing.Update: I read the rest of that comment. What I've written already expresses my view. Issac foreshadowed the sacrifice of Jesus.

+ProphecyPodRadio https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/106524695283708544283/collection/ExPXIB

+paulandmarian - of course I have the right to judge you if you contradict scripture. Israel and the Jewish people are central throughout all of scripture. This is not a minor, peripheral issue. If you contradict scripture, how does that make you a friend? I consider you to be misled -- if not lost... which was why I spoke with you in the first place. But, since you are a liberal pastor and claim to know scripture, you should know that I am commanded to judge. 1 Corinthians 5:12 says, "For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church? But those who are outside, God judges." And, of course, since we are to judge angels, we're not unqualified. Our judgment is to be just, and since some of mine has not been, I apologize, but I do have a duty to judge between truth and error, and I feel that you are in error in regard to the significance of the Jewish people and Israel.I will remind you of Amos 9:15, "Also I will restore the captivity of My people Israel, And they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them; They will also plant vineyards and drink their wine, And make gardens and eat their fruit. "I will also plant them on their land, And they will NOT AGAIN be rooted out from their land Which I have given them," Says the LORD your God."God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people in an everlasting covenant. He promised a time would come when they would never again be uprooted out of their land. God didn't make that promise to the people you spoke with in Bethlehem, yet you act as if they have more right to that land than the people God gave it to. When you deny what God has promised, you make God out to be a liar. Can't you see how serious that is?

+paulandmarian - Dr. Brown allows comments. I'm sure if Dr. Brown had a problem with comments that strayed off topic, he wouldn't allow comments in the first place. No one who freely allows comments will be able to control what people say. Trying to do so is what is rude. Trying to shut someone up is what is rude. Where on the Internet have you ever seen threads that never stray off topic? The purpose of my posting here is to defend the rights of the Jewish people and the land of Israel, but first I wanted to have a better understanding of where you are coming from. So I don't even think this qualifies as off topic.Maybe you didn't want to answer whether you read the Bible, especially the Old Testament. It seems that most people who oppose Israel and the Jewish people don't read the Old Testament... most don't even read the New, and you can't understand the New without the Old. I sometimes wonder if Galatians 3:28 is the only verse people who oppose the Jewish people and Israel are familiar with. They seem to be completely blind to the role of Israel and the Jewish people in God's eternal plan and at the end of the age. Scotland doesn't play such a role. America doesn't either. Neither does Canada or Mexico. It's all centered around Israel and the Jewish people.Maybe it's jealousy and pride that causes people to take issue with that. Or maybe it's just good old-fashioned human rebellion. Rebellion against God and His plans. Rebellion against what God has chosen -- as if those who oppose Him know better. I just don't get people who call themselves Christians and then take political stands that oppose God's plan as revealed in His Holy Scriptures. It doesn't matter if you think Israel doesn't have the right to exist. God obviously does or it wouldn't exist again... nor would He have predicted it would exist again over and over throughout scripture. That's why I wanted to know if you read scripture and studied prophecy. Prophecy is the only thing God points to as evidence that He is God and the Bible is His Word. And God clearly says He has given the Land of Israel to the Jewish people as an everlasting possession. Unless you say otherwise, I'll just assume that you are one of those Christians who rarely opens the Bible and has no idea what it says from beginning to end or what its promises are to the Jewish people. You'd better pray God keeps all His promises to the Jews, or you have no assurance He'll keep all His promises to you either.

+paulandmarian - Oops, I forgot to add your name. Paul, I appreciate the answer and the kindness behind it. I hope you will give as fair a hearing to the "other side", keeping all of scripture in mind and God's eternal covenant and promises to the Jewish people. (All of which are centered around the Land of Israel.) Is it possible that Satan uses that Land and all the different people groups for his own purposes? to thwart God's plans for the Land and people? Whatever stand you want to take as a worldview, unless it is rooted in God's plans, it is like the house that fell because it wasn't built on the rock. No one is perfect. The world is broken. We can all find sides to take and reasons for our stands, no matter how opposing they are. But the point is what God is doing in history that He is accomplishing through the Jewish people. Since God loves the Jewish people so much, despite their failures, it's hard for me not to, no matter their flaws. My hope is in Christ, not world politics, especially since I am is imperfect and broken as the rest of the world. If you don't mind, I'd like to ask a couple other questions. Do you read the Bible - both Testaments? Also, how do you view prophecy? Is it unimportant?

+paulandmarian - You may have answered this question, but I haven't read the replies. I merely wanted to ask you two quick questions. Did you speak with as many Jews while you were there -- with the same open mind that you spoke to those you mentioned? Also, have you ever read "From Time Immemorial" by Joan Peters?

+paulandmarian Not true!  

+Joanne Gerber Thanks. I used to think that too, but many (I dare say most) of the walls and road blocks etc. are to stop movement within their own communities rather than security. However, certainly an end to terrorism from all parties involved (few settlers, few locals etc.) would certainly help! Love your tone.

+Joanne GerberIf Palestine were to lay down their guns tomorrow, there would be no war. If Israel were to lay down theirs, there would be no Israel - Benjamin Netanyahu

+paulandmarian I don't doubt that the Christians suffer from the occupation as well, but their suffering from the occupation and the road blocks would disappear overnight if the terrorism problem were to disappear overnight.

+paulandmarian Well glory BE, Known, but not by me!!!!! Go preach, but not too me!!!!! 

+Yahuda101 There are literally hundreds who can testify that I spoke about ISIS etc. from the early point where they started threatening Christians where they lived. Since then many Christians have been displaced, and others, many abused and many brutally murdered. Each step of the way I have preached against them in our church prayed for their victims. I have both written and talked about evil extremism and have also covered genocides, such as those by atheist despots, not on your list. As someone who has spoken out against Islamic Extremism, Atheist Extremism, Hindu Extremism and Christian Extremism I don't accept your charges. One class mate from bible college was chopped up alive, until dead, by Islamic Extremists twenty five years ago. All of us were very hurt by that and at no point ever supported his brutal murder.To call someone known for speaking out against all fanatical extremism a bigot, disgusting human being hypocrite, liar etc. is distasteful and inaccurate.

Being a Palestinian Christian, occupation is the main reason why my parents left.

Get a life Yahuda.  Stop ringing my notification. 

The History of the Words "Palestine" and "Palestinians"Is Jordan Palestine? Here are two Jordanian State Stamps.  On the left, one from 1949 with a picture of King Abdullah of the kingdom of Jordan and bears the label of Palestine in English and Arabic.  On the right, a 1964 stamp bearing the likeness of King Hussein and pictures Mandated Palestine as an undivided territory including both present day Israel and Jordan.  WHAT DOES "PALESTINE" MEAN?It has never been the name of a nation or state. It is a geographical term, used to designate the region at those times in history when there is no nation or state there.The word itself derives from "Peleshet", a name that appears frequently in the Bible and has come into English as "Philistine".  The Philistines were mediterranean people originating from Asia Minor and Greek localities.  They reached the southern coast of Israel in several waves.  One group arrived in the pre-patriarchal period and settled south of Beersheba in Gerar where they came into conflict with Abraham, Isaac and Ishmael.  Another group, coming from Crete after being repulsed from an attempted invasion of Egypt by Rameses III in 1194 BCE, seized the southern coastal area, where they founded five settlements (Gaza, Ascalon, Ashdod, Ekron and Gat).  In the Persian and Greek periods, foreign settlers - chiefly from the Mediterranean islands - overran the Philistine districts.  From the time of Herodotus, Greeks called the eastern coast of the Mediterranean "Syria Palaestina".The Philistines were not Arabs nor even Semites, they were most closely related to the Greeks. They did not speak Arabic. They had no connection, ethnic, linguistic or historical with Arabia or Arabs. The name "Falastin" that Arabs today use for "Palestine" is not an Arabic name. It is the Arab pronunciation of the Greco-Roman "Palastina"; which is derived from the Plesheth, (root palash) was a general term meaning rolling or migratory. This referred to the Philistine's invasion and conquest of the coast from the sea.The use of the term "Palestinian" for an Arab ethnic group is a modern political creation which has no basis in fact - and had never had any international or academic credibility before 1967.//www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/meaning.html

Where’s the Apartheid: Israel Knesset???"Many lies, myths, smears and Pallywood fake photos are being circulated in honor of Israel Apartheid Week. We plan to share new and real photos of the Apartheid situation in Israel each week of the hate fest.Click on the link below//blog.eretzyisrael.org/post/96707051575/wheres-the-apartheid-israel-knesset

+paulandmarianA Glimpse at Articles from the Hamas Charter-The Covenant of Jew Hatred and Plan of Hamas to Destroy IsraelHamas cannot keep a ceasefire,  negotiate fairly in peace talks with reasonable concessions, or make a long standing commitment to live in peace with Israel, without becoming hypocrites, in defiance of their own mission clearly stated in the Hamas Charter....."Raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine".  In simple terms, annihilate the Jewish State,  kill the inhabitants, and declare Israel an Islamic State.  In the meantime, let`s pretend it is about the resistance and "cause" of the Palestinian people. The long played disingenuous narrative, readily acceptable in the credulous view of the international community. Hamas has used a pitiful plight of the people, to ultimately obtain its  Islamic  goal...to destroy Israel and slowly absorb it into an Islamic state....just as the Hamas Charter mandates.But Hamas cares about the plight of the Gazan people, and must fight Israel and kill the Zionist, as if was an equal opportunity adventure. The same people that Hamas placed in harms way to be killed, instead of using open areas of land as their launching sites. The same people deprived of housing from the enormous amount of materials, in lieu,  it was used to build a massive network of terror tunnels, many leading into Israel to carry out terrorist attacks on innocent Israelis.  Besides building schools and hospitals, this material could have been used for building living accommodations for the people.  Many in this world could live comfortably in an apartment over-looking the Mediterranean.Hamas will not have prosperous conditions, as long as thriving off discord keeps the conflict embolden.  Much of the money could have been spent for the Palestinian entrepreneurs aspiring to open up businesses. Hamas leaders cannot afford to let the community be peaceful and thriving.  Hamas must keep Gaza in a semi-impoverished state, and keep reiterating to the people and teaching the children,  that their divine mission in this world, can be no less, than to stay in a surreal struggle  to "take back" their homeland,  Palestine. The advocated method, as dictated in the Charter, is by "resistance", which is their soft word meaning embracing terrorism and killing innocent Israeli citizens.As the forlorn Hamas leaders were comfortable in a luxury hotel in Qutar watching the crisis in Gaza, they were dreaming about the benefits of having an airport and the sea blockade lifted..forget about dissolving the Jewish State in stages, if Israel is ever sofoolish, the flag will be flying much sooner than predicted. In the meantime, it is important to negotiate in Egypt for the sake of appearances and making a "peace effort".  Unless there is a schedule conflict with the Ayatollah  Khamenei, who recently made the plea for the West Bank to fight and be armed,  time must be spent in feigned  truce negotiations. Of course, discussing weaponry supplied by Iran  takes precedence. Iran is the loyal terror state friend, which has also vowed for the destruction of Israel.Hamas leaders are not men singing in a Muslim quartet about their dreams of peace with neighbor,  Israel.  These are wealthy terrorists with an extreme Islamic ideology, as stipulated in their Charter, with an agenda to kill Jews and destroy the State of Israel; a region they desire to never again have displayed a blue and white flag with a Star David emblem.  Let us never become blindly complacent about who they are and what they want. Israel will keep preserving the State and protecting the citizens.  As long as the terrorist organization, Hamas, exist, it will continue to abide by its own Charter and terrorize Israel.under the scope-ISI opinionread in entirety Hamas Charter//www.hamascharter.com/

 Zuheir MohsenZuheir Mohsen (1936–1979) was a Palestinian leader of the Syria-controlled as-Sa'iqa faction of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) between 1971 and 1979.The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.James Dorsey, "Wij zijn alleen Palestijn om politieke reden", Trouw, 31 March 1977.       

+paulandmarian Stay put! Class is not over! 

+paulandmarianThink about it, Israel is a little larger than the state of New Jersey, not much land to build on. And surrounded by Arab states much bigger than Israel with land that is sparsely occupied, land for all to build on, land that the leaders of Israel said they would help to develop. Any fool can see that by looking at a map! The reason why these Arab countries that has all this land that could be developed and won't let it be developed is that these Arab countries don’t want these fake ass, nonexistent so called Palestinians! With anti-Semitism by (bigots like YOU) on the raise throughout the world Jews are immigrating to Israel by the thousands, where will they live??? Israel has to build settlements! It’s a MUST! It must NEVER be forgotten that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, always has been!!!! 

+paulandmarianAnd you're a hypocrite! And I'll tell you why you're a hypocrite and I'd like to see you explain to me why you're not a stupid ass hypocrite. Bigot hypocrites such as yourself IGNORE TRUE CENOCIDE, such as Darfur, Sudan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, and even in South East Asia, committed by Islamic jihadist! They cut babies in half, behead people, burn them alive, bury them alive, and crucify them! And yet here you are proving to the world as to your bigotry and hypocrisy and point your finger at a nation that is defending itself and go to the extreme as to not harm innocent people. But bigots can't understand that people die in wars! I never see you hypocrites even MENTION these crimes against humanity committed by these Islamic extremist! NOT ONE WORD! NOT ONE! You should run and hide your face IN SHAME!!!!! You bigots are disgusting human beings, and don't even deserve to be called human beings! Now bitch, explain to me how you're not a hypocrite! EXPALIN IT TO ME! And I'll prove you that you're not only a hypocrite, but also a LIAR!    

+paulandmarian Well, Number, and this is big, THERE IS NO OCCUPATION! I'm calling you a BIGOT LIAR!!!!!! And number two, I've been all over Israel!!!!!! I've talked to many people in the towns, and regions I've been too!!! Now I'm going to take your stupid ass to school! Class starts now!!!!!! 

+Yahuda101 Hello, I can't see which of the videos was to the towns under occupation, which one is it please and I'll happily look?

+paulandmarian Well here is another that has been there and talked to the people!!!! And I say YOU ARE WRONG!!!! I was there from August till September 2011! Video on my channel!!!

+FrodojackWould there be a need for a wall, if Israel stopped creating settlements in Palestinian territories and taking Palestinian farmland? Would there be a need for the wall, if the Jews actually kept the covenant, observing the Torah, rather than parading fagots in the streets of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv? How many unborn children are going to be slaughtered this week in Israhell? "Israel" is one of the nations with the highest per capita "abortion"  rate and the most liberal abortion laws in the world. How many more strip joints, gay nightclubs and whore houses will YHWH permit in "Israel", the holy land, before the land vomits the Jews out again? The land belongs to YHWH Aloah / Aloahim,, not the Jews. Al Alyon,, Al Shadiah. How much longer can the atheistic, secular state of Israel thumb its nose at YHWH Aloah, before the hammer strikes and they are forced to either submit to YHWH's commandments or return to Poland and Brooklyn? Guess we'll have to wait and see.

+paulandmarian The question is: Would there be a wall if Palestinian Muslims didn't commit acts of terror? Israel has a right to defend its citizens, does it not?

+Tajh Marquel The claim that modern Jews are descended from Khazars has been debunked.

+paulandmarian google "Khazars"...

+paulandmarian Thank you for speaking out the truth.

+ASKDrBrown didn't Palestinian have Muslim leadership for centuries under the Ottoman Empire? Well the last large number of Palestinian Christians are Armenian Christians who many of them get paid for tourist activities in Jerusalem. I've been to Israel and the occupied territories and there is large scale of Christian persecution over there. Nothing like being spat on and called a missionary, nothing like being a Christian wanting to pray at the holy sepulcher but Israelis regulating who can or can't go in pray. Israel isn't this utopian that many people think it is and our Palestinian brothers are suffering because of the occupation

+WEBDEVO Thank you!

+paulandmarianHappy Birthday! May God bless you with many more years and good health.. 

+WEBDEVO I'm 50 tomorrow mate!

+paulandmarian Killing joke, that's right. I'll be 43 February 12th. I grew up in the 80s hearing all that good Music.

+WEBDEVO On another note, glad to see you like Killing Joke!

+WEBDEVO This is the message I heard over and over again when I was in Isreal and also from the Prayer for Israel people, but if you look at what it has become it is far from a security measure against terrorists. A huge amount of that wall (often a fence) separates people from their jobs, not from Isreal. If you visit Palestine and walk around you can see that behind most of these walls and fences there is nothing but olive trees. After a while a settlement is then built on it. The people who suffer are the Christians, I do use that word in a wide sense to incorporate all Christians. In many countries there are terrorists, we have had plenty here, but the answer is not to bankrupt a whole community. What also doesn't help is the one law for one and another law for another. If a Christian gets shot by a soldier he only has to say that it looked like he had a knife. The police are not permitted to check this out or ask questions, check for evidence etc. If an Israeli gets shot, it is a different set of responses and rules. This only helps the terrorists and they are the last people we want to help.

+Reagan King Hello Regan, I don't know another word for military occupation that is fitting. The Israelis call it the occupied territories and before I cross they warn me I am leaving Israel, so really your argument is with the Israeli authorities and not me. People who are born again, love the Lord, do a hard days work and live an honourable life do not deserve to be treated this way by military forces, nor indeed most other people.

+Reagan King Hello Regan, I don't know all the answers nor claim to know, but I do know that Christian people are losing their jobs, livelihoods and even homes as a direct result of military force. Please don't think for a single second that I support terrorism on any side or indeed in any country, nor murder nor any atrocity, I don't. What I have seen with my own eyes though are huge walls built between people's homes and their place of work, most commonly olive plantations and factories. The media gives the impression these are for security, but I saw many big walls that simply cut people off from olive trees, so that has nothing to do with security. Thank you for your response, it is good to hear different perspectives.

+BisiLIFE Yes, the land is under military occupation. The Israelis themselves use that phrase. Lots of Christians suffer badly as a result. Some of them are forced out of their homes with little notice so they can build new walls and many have lost their businesses or jobs as they can't get to work or trade. These are not terrorists, these are normal Christian people who love the Lord and preach the gospel.

+Reagan King

+paulandmarian Consider this:On October 8, 2015, six Arabs either murdered or tried to murder Jews in six different locations in the country. As these attacks occurred, Arabs rioted in every nook and cranny of Israel, on both sides of the 1949 cease fire line.At the same time, while the Israel Broadcasting Authority announced one Arab attack and Arab riot after another on the news, the Israel Defense Establishment trotted out spokespeople every hour on the hour to assure the people of Israel that the Palestinian Authority will most certainly work to calm down the atmosphere of violence. Yet the PA plays an insidious role, as it provides gratuities to any Arab who murder or attempt to murder a Jew. Every month, according to the bylaws of the Palestinian Authority (PA) transfers 17 million shekels to those who have been convicted of first degree murder or attempted murder and who are now serving their sentences behind bars. The PA also allocates funds to families of killers, with special grants for families of killers who die as while committing an act of murder. According to the PA distribution formula, the more severe the attack conducted by the killer and the longer the prison sentence, the more the stipend is increased proportionately.Maher al-Hashlamon Hamdi, who is serving two life sentences for the murder of Dalia Lemkus in a car-ramming and stabbing attack exactly one year ago, started receiving monthly stipends from the PA as soon as Mahdi Hamdi was arrested. Hamdi now receives 1,400 NIS a month. These payments will increase over time, and in the future, his monthly stipend will reach no less than 10,000 shekels.Zaid Awad, who murdered Baruch Mizrachi on Passover Eve 2014, has received stipends from the PA totaling about 30,000 shekels. These stipends followed those he received for his previous imprisonment before he was released in the Gilad Shalit prisoner exchange, when he received about 300,000 shekels.Amad Awad and Hakim Awad, who brutally murdered five members of the Fogel family in Itamar, have so far received almost 75,000 shekels each. According to the PA’s fund distribution formula for murderers, they’ll continue to receive stipends that will even reach 12,000 shekels a month. When calculating the total sum throughout their lives, they will each receive 2.4 million shekels for the multiple murders they committed.As mentioned, every month, the PA allots 17 million shekels to funding those who are convicted of murder and attempted murder…in addition to grants to the murderers’ families. More than a few murder convicts admit during interrogation that they want to commit terror attacks in order to receive the payment.In other words, you could call this an incentive to murder. In the midst of all these Palestinians engineered despicable violence, how will Palestinian Christians live in peace?

+paulandmarian Why are you blaming Israel for the problems Palestinian Christians are facing? Don't you think it is like blaming America for the problems Pakistani Christians are facing or the problems Christians in saudi Arabia are facing? Pease stop using the word occupation land to refer to lands that belong to israel. The Palestinians are the occupiers. Even the koran says Allah gave the land of israel to jews forever.

+paulandmarian When you say "occupation", are you refering to the Israelis?

Yes, seen it before. I walked past her house by accident, recognised it immediately. She certainly suffered from the occupation's wall! She has been away a while now and the occupation force has really upped the anti with tear gas and shootings etc. so you'll find, certainly I did, most or all Christians you meet still living there under that now blame the occupation. That's not in any way to take away from her testimonial. Thanks for adjusting link.

+paulandmarian I've changed the link,I hope this time you will see what I intended. Best!

+Cris S Hello Chris, I've clicked that link twice and both times it takes me to a very angry 23 year old South Korean on a rant against Muslims and Facebook. I think you have the wrong link there. I have made an observation that Christians I met who live in Palestine are consistently suffering from the military occupation. Their livelihoods and even homes are lost. People on the internet who don't support them tend not to live there.

+paulandmarian A Christian woman from Palestine speaks: https://www.facebook.com/1050560068303609/videos/1312732268753053/

+ASKDrBrown Thank you for taking the time to reply, that is most appreciated. Neither you nor I live in Palestine so both of us have to go by those we meet who live there. I met many people and every last one of them I met blamed the occupation, bar none, even the pastors I met said the same. They all keenly point out that there are numerous Christians in the West Bank leadership too, which I saw myself. However, if your friends who advise you live in the West Bank rather than Israel we must both accept there are different view points from different people. I still think it would be worth your while visiting rather than hearing via others, but up to you. Thank you again for the reply.

+paulandmarian I've spoken with some directly and my colleagues have spent lots of time with them -- in some cases, interacting with them for years. I stand by every word of this video. The problem for the Palestinian Christians is the Muslim leadership, not Israel.

Keep it up: US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said it was "insulting". An aide to US President Barack Obama, David Axelrod, dubbed it "an affront" and a "calculated" attempt to undermine the expected launch of indirect talks... ..To some in Israel, currently battling what many here see as a wave of international hostility evidenced by the Goldstone report accusing it of war crimes in Gaza, angering its strongest ally and greatest friend on the world stage is major worry. BBC 15 03 2010

A 1993 United Nations Commission defined it more specifically as, "the planned deliberate removal from a specific territory, persons of a particular ethnic group, by force or intimidation, in order to render that area ethnically homogenous." The plans for this exist in the Hamas Charter so Hamas is guilty of genocide

Israeli security services have fired tear gas, stun grenades, rubber bullets and on occasion live rounds at protesters. There have been two fatalities among protesters and an American peace activist remains in a coma after being hit by a rubber bullet. Monday, 15 March 2010 BBC

Holding on to the truth? Then why does Norman crops photos to make it look like soldiers pointing guns at kids? The figures contradict Normam as there were1400 casualties out of 410,000 total residents. Thats the lowest death rate in urban warfare history

the US is begining to distance itself from Israel's violations of the 4th Geneva Convention....and its popping up everywhere on mainstream media not just human rights organizations.....once this happens...Israel will be completely alone. :)

@krepIach2 Please dont waste your time on my impersonator krepiach2. Hes only interested in starting arguements not finishing them. Hes a bigot, troll, clone, spammer and Youtube abuser.

If a house of one of your family members was destroyed like that, what would you feel? We all would like to know...

If I could, I would slap Norman Finkelstein across the face to wake him up.

Man just give us (palestine) our land back

we hope some body to here this