New York Physical Therapist, Gabriel Ettenson, has produced this animation presentation to help you understand the relationship between gravity and our ...
You are not increasing the higher gravity environment through a vibrating
plate. An elevator going up would increase the gravity environment, but the
trip back down would take the net gravity affect back down to 0. This
machine is worthless.
Not true TKIA, even if your physics were correct (acceleration up - acceleration down = zero effect), the stimulation provided by the machine would not be cancelled out. However, just on the physics aspect of your statement, anything above 1g provided by the upward acceleration of the platform, is always greater than the downward acceleration which is provided by gravity (1g). The user is only attached to the platform by gravity, therefore the downward acceleration the user undergoes is lower than the upward acceleration the user undergoes if the platform is producing more than 1g. In contrast to your theory however, if a user was physically attached to the platform, the physical effect on the body would actually be increased. There is also a hugely complex issue of what happens to an elastic, multi-resonant, multi-jointed object (human) on a machine, vs a solid object. So the science is far from being so simplistic.
I think I follow. However, with a vibration platform, the both frequency at which the force is applied and the actual force must be considered. This is where an intermittent force can be interpreted by the central nervous system to be a sustained environment of hypergravity (with a proper machine producing a proper g-force)
Correct for net physical effect spatially within the Cartesian plane. Incorrect for net effect of proprioceptors, baroreceptors, nociceptors, fibroblasts, osteoblasts within the body. I am a doctor and I have experienced this type of machine and understand the feedback mechanisms of the human body.
TKIA,I originally perceived your comments here as an effort to discuss this subject intelligently. Then I read your last line and realized you are just another naysayer with no willingness to understand the physics of a proper vibration platform.I'd be happy to educate you, but I am not sure you are interested in learning. What I will say is that a number of studies on vibration have been recently published by the European Space Agency and vibration technology is a large part of the mission to mars simulator program at the moment. So, unless the scientists working with the ESA require more education on hyper-gravity and how to simulate it, I would beg to differ on the legitimacy of the science and whether or not it does what you are suggesting it does not.
Gabriel would this be safe for some with chronic lower back pain due to a
rupture disk? I've gain so much weight from not being able to exercise and
aside from swimming I'm looking at other approaches to exercise that
doesn't cause me pain
As long as you are using the platform correctly and have your MD's permission, it is completely safe for someone with chronic low back pain. In fact, while the studies are not specific to ruptured discs, there are numerous studies on WBV and low back pain.
WTF...only 30 sec about WBV, and you can not even think about comparing
weightlifting with this machine... I so 70yrs old guy who does snatch which
is mos complex way to lift ways and it requires coordination, flexibility,
tehnique ect. If you have someone who can teach you how to lift, + you do
somthing for cardio... you will have more benefits then using this. OK it
can bi good for some things, but you can not tell that older people should
not lift ways, cause you DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THAT, I read several
science paper about that and ther is none that says something bad about
weighz lifting in older age if there is someone who can teacj and
supervise.
Your comments are appreciated Marko. I agree that if every person (regardless of age) could pay an intelligent professional to train them with with proper mechanics and the right program, the same benefits could be achieved through their respective routines. No one routine would be better than another and injury risk would be the same across the board. This applies to traditional lifting, advanced lifting techniques like you are alluding to in your program, as well as Vibration Training (we don't just stand on the machine, we work out on it to enhance the exercise).I would like to add however, that even with a trainer, from years of observation as a medical professional, quite a few programs for seniors are overly-conservative, non-functional or inefficient. In these cases, as well as cases where a person is doing a reasonable program, it will always be more efficient and effective if done on a vibration platform as you are utilizing both the mass and acceleration principle rather than only mass. Also, your program is specific to gravitational loading as well as a functionally relevant movement pattern.There is plenty of research to support that statement. Lastly, no one suggested that older people should not lift, but having rehabbed older people for 15+ years, I can certainly attest to the fear of injury as well as the actual injuries associated with traditional training regimens like weightlifting when unsupervised. I can also attest to the number of people in that age range that cannot or will not pay a professional to work with them on a regular basis.So, given the low incidence of injury with Vibration Training, the research supporting its increased efficiency over "traditional" training programs and the fact that it, unlike most available programs for seniors, it impacts muscle power, I'd have to stick with my original conclusion that it is better than weightlifting.
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