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+La Strummer  Brian did indeed shed tears quite often in the time close to his death.  He also was suffering from a deep depression and, like so many do, turned to self-medicating.  And a high IQ can definitely be a curse.  

+scdevon The best era is the Mick Taylor era. That was the golden age.. finally they had a real lead guitarist to make Keiths songs perfect. Their Pop era died with Brian.

+La Strummer This has been discussed a lot. No offense against poor Brian, but it is close to impossible trying to work and live w/ an out of control addict. Remember, these guys were 25 at the time. Think of the maturity level of guy's in their 20s, overcome by fame while trying to understand an addict. Also, there were no rehabs or interventions or Dr Drew or any of that stuff that is so ubiquitous today. They were in over their heads and did the best they could. Mick even said in Crossfire Hurricane "Surely, we could have done more than that."

+Cissy2cute I read somewhere that Anita said that Brian began to cry because of Mick's and Keith's bond and the fact that they were ignoring/not caring for him. It's sad the way he was treated, they kind of betrayed him. You're so lucky to have been able to see him in person. And thanks for that recommendation, I'll definitely look into it.

+La Strummer They were close in the early days after Brian moved to London and they lived in a flat together. Have to admit, Mick had a very strong personality; Brian didn't. If you haven't, try Trynka's book "Brian Jones: The Making of the Rolling Stones. A lot on this early period of their relationships.I will tell you one event I witnessed. I was standing outside the building getting a breath of fresh air when a limo pulled up with Mick, Keith and Brian inside. M and K got out quickly and bounded inside, leaving Brian all alone in the back seat. He looked very sad. They were RUDE, no way around it. He got out and walked past me. He turned and looked at me and paused for just a second, then went inside. He later told me he thought I was Linda Lawrence (!) for a moment. Great memory but very sad too.

+Cissy2cute I never knew Brian and Keith used to be close. (I'm purchasing some books to learn more about him) I just really wished someone would've helped him, he was taken away from us way too soon. What I've always hated is that the guys in the band would sometimes talk negatively about him. They would make him sound as if he was a miserable and unpleasant person to be around. He deserved better.

+La Strummer  I read somewhere (darn, I can't remember where) that Keith has finally admitted they hadn't treated him right and could have done more.  Brian and Keith were good friends in the beginning but IMO Mick drove a wedge between them (as did Oldham).  M & K had a dependency relationship, as far as Keith was concerned, actually.  He took Mick's side as he didn't want to go against the stronger personality of Mick.  Bill and Charlie just wanted to keep their jobs and so said little but were upset nonetheless.I had the very rare opportunity to see the three of them on more than one occasion in a non-public way-no reporters, no photographers.  I saw the treatment accorded Brian and it was heartbreaking.  Brian looked on the verge of a nervous breakdown.  My heart hurts to this day every time I think about it.

+Cissy2cute Yup. Mick and Keith (especially mick) were hard on him. Mick helped Keith out when he was going through a tough time with drugs but couldn't help Brian? Brian definitely just needed someone there for him, too bad they didn't care. Those two didn't even bother the decency to attend his funeral. I think that till this day Mick and Keith don't care for Brian. The Rolling Stones will always be Brian's band.

+La Strummer  And you think that they could have at least remembered that fact.  Keith not so much, but Mick--he was wicked.  When Brian showed up at the recording studio (and I'm not saying Brian wasn't sick and drugged up) Mick said "Tell him to go take a piss and get the hell out of here."  He certainly could have worded that differently.Charlie and Bill did not want Brian kicked out, but there influence was little to none.  George Harrison had said that all Brian needed was more love and understanding.  No matter how they felt, he deserved some respect as without him Mick, especially, would have had to go back to his study of economics.  

Agree! Mick and Keith owe him for their fame.

+Cissy2cute This is all feeding off my original post, so I'll comment where I wish.  This may help:  he's a bit better than Mike Love.

+Chief Kurtz I wasn't even replying to you. I was adding to what Barney Os had already written. It was claimed he couldn't write anything and despite all the negativity people who were recognized musicians at the time basically would associate with him and not Mick or Keith. They recognized his musical genius. After his death the Stones began calling in other singers/musicians to join them on stage.

None of which has anything to do with the original statement that it was all downhill for the Stones after he checked out.

+Barney Os. He wrote the melody for Ruby Tuesday; never credited. He also made contributions on the Beatles and Hendrix's work. Wrote a soundtrack for a German film.

+scdevon Best stuff came with Mick Taylor IMHO!! Best song ever is time waits for no one.

In my opinion it was 81. Remember goat head soup some girls and tattoo you. Also black n blue is underrated

It was after Exile in 1972 they lost their creativity.

+scdevon ...history would have changed for sure. but Mick getting married also changed things. the Jagger/ Richardssong writing.

I agree 

Brian DID form the group though and influenced their early direction as a blues band, but Mick and Keith started songwriting and sort of took charge of the ship. Brian did make contributions musically though through his ability to play various instruments. And he made melody contributions to songs, like Ruby Tuesday

Agree

+Michael Calirithat was the point of my comment.  Most of the Brian obsessed harp on endlessly about Brian's 'contributions' to the Stones when Ian was not designated as a full member. I include Bobby Keyes in that group as well.  Glad he Keith insisted Ian be inducted with the others in the R&R Hall of Fame.

+Chief Kurtz Ian was a good Friend of the Stones from the beginning to the day he died.

+scdevon Brain started the Stones,every fan knows that but him and Kieth tried to write but noting clicked.The sad thing is that Mick and Kieth today won,t give Brain credit for anything.

Naive. Let it bleed,Sticky fingers,Exile,goats head soup,some girls, tattoo you. All amazing without Brian jones

+scdevon He provided even less to the group than Ian Stewart. "To be honest, Brian had no talent for writing songs. None. I've never known a guy with less talent for songwriting."-M. Jagger