Is Aftermarket CPU Cooling Worth It? - Overclocking Examination
Is pouring a bunch of money into cooling solutions for your CPU going to net you a huge benefit? Or should you just upgrade your other components instead?
System Components:
CPU: Intel Core i5 6400 2.7GHz (3.3GHz Turbo)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Bazooka Motherboard
Graphics: MSI GeForce GTX 970 OC 4GB
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK8GX4M2A2400C14 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 Black
Solid State Drive: Samsung 650 Series 120GB SSD
Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB ST2000DM001
Case: NZXT S340 Razer Edition Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit (eligible for the
free Windows 10 upgrade)
Is this good to play games at 60fps with that cpu?
+Mafasa Almafasa It'll be fine. My i5 4460 on stock cooler never goes above 60 degrees Celsius with an ambient temperature of about 20 degrees. Plus your CPU is clocked a fair bit lower and my computer isn't exactly the best in terms of air flow.
+Mafasa Almafasa It is pre built pc and it comes with the stock cooler, I'm not overclocking it but, is the stock cooler enough? I don't mind the noise as long the cpu doesn't burn lol.
I have a core i7 920 with its stock cooler, running on stock frequencies
for now. Can't even reach its max. Stock turbo boost frequency (only up to
2804 mHz). Max. Temps are 92 degrees Celsius. Looking for something
affordable, but able to get nice temps even at my future max. Overclock
(4-4,2 gHz) when I get the chance. You can now kill me.
+Mafasa Almafasa When your pc arrives and you start using it, for a couple of your (upcoming) usual gaming runs have either a program called "realtemp" or one called "hwmonitor" running in the background. Such programs measure temperatures in your c.p.u. (in hwmonitor's case, it gets temps out of every single part in your pc). If c.p.u. temperatures get past 80 degrees celcius, start worrying and considering a better cooler.
+Gaius Trollius 92 degrees Celsius sounds too hot for the cpu, I'm planning to buy pre built pc, but it only comes with a stock cooler, I'm not going to overclock it, but I'm going to game on it alot, do you think I might burn the cpu at some stage for playing high cpu demanding games? I'm new to the pc gaming.
i had a Hyper 212 Evo, and later went with a corsair H90. still not far
into the overclocking scene, but i get my I7-3770k at 4.2 GHz with no
problems at all, and prime 95 has yet to cause problems in terms of heat,
though i have an isue with one of my cores(constantly at 95 degrees) the
rest works like a charm.
+pesoen I know it is worth spending a little more for CM Hyper 212 Evo but I'm in a really tight budget situation here, let's see if I can upgrade in future.
+Fl Hn your choice, would still go for an aftermarket one, since it can squeeze out a bit of extra perfromance, without blowing the budget. but stock coller should still do fine if you wont overclock.
+pesoen Pardon me, does Intel Core i5 6500 3.2 Ghz require an aftermarket cooler like CM Hyper 212 EVO or just the stock cooler will be enough to keep temperature cool? There will be no over clocking since it is an non-k processor but the computer will be used for playing games/browsing for quite a bit, so it will be running for at least 8-10 hours a day.
+mambobro if you use an AIO you have a worse chance of leaks than using a custom loop. A custom loop can be scary but pays off with amazing looks and temps. I have 30c idle and 60c under load on a 4790k and thats not even that great
Ok, so heres my problem that I am having.
I am going to use an FX 6300.
I want to make the CPU very cool to maintain the GHz and my FPS.
Should I use a better CPU cooler or the Stock CPU cooler?
The heat on a cou isn't really critical for game performance and won't affect it much unless it's 80~ Celsius or higher. If you're gonna over lock I DEFIANTLY suggest that you have an after market cooler, a suggestion would be the hyper 212 evo. If your not gonna overclock however and if your on a strict budget a stock cooler can do fine until you get the money for a better cooler. So conclusion: If your gonna overclock or plan to do it in the future YES. If you aren't but if you can afford one I'd suggest the 212. However if you can afford it you can survive with a stock cooler until then.
Inside Asetek Labs - Liquid Cooling an Overclocked Alienware Laptop
Hi, Zack from Asetek here and today I'll be showing you an Alienware gaming laptop that demonstrates the advantages of liquid cooling in an overclocked ...
+THE16THPHANTOM I am sorry, who in their right mind buy a GAMER laptop for the looks, no one but idiots. MSI, Asus, Clevo and Sager have THE best performance laptop by price and setup, alienware does not even make their own laptops they buy them and customise them. MSI, Asus and Clevo/Sager builds their own laptops.
In most cases it can be since most laptops were not designed to house a cooling loop and delivering power but this would be useful to laptop overclockers
Internal vs Rear Exhaust GPU Coolers
When the average gamer shops for a new video card, should they look for an aftermarket, internal-exhaust card, or is the "reference" blower design a better ...
3:20 "we use a open air test bench... we may need to re-evaluate this at
some point in the future" This video was made a year before the latest
video where they did switch there test computer to something a bit more
real world. I thought that was funny.
+PopPlays just make sure to have enough intake fans in your case. Monitor your temps during your fist few hours of gaming with RTSS (MSI afterburner).Though in any decent case there shouldnt be many problems
+PyroRaider if you havnt noticed, Evga 980ti and other cards hold like 100mhz over asus cards in that category and get lower fps by 1-2. Atleast with the 980ti, the difference is negligible
+DJ Jesus.He Died for your spins You could get that card for about 305$Or spend 10$ more on the evga gtx 970 ssc acx 2.0+ which has 100 more mhz so for about ~6 fpsYour choice //pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43975kr
The AMD cooler with copper core is a 15 years old Vincent (maybe wrong
name) design that was one of the first with copper core. If I remember
correctly, it was revolutionary quite good but heat-pipe cooler from Cooler
Master and Thermalright arrived not long after and everyone jumper to the
better heat-pipe design.
+Peichen01 Yeah, there isn't a lot of development in stock coolers. There doesn't really need to be either, to be honest. A 15-year old cooler that was once designed for a top-of-the-line CPU might no longer suffice on the current flagship models, but for budget CPUs it'll still do just fine.That's not to say that aftermarket coolers aren't worth the investment, obviously...
+Robert Faber hmmm my case is fine, and it's actually quite cold here, ambient is 18c. Odd i know, but i contacted both the seller and Intel multiple times and they said it wasn't considered faulty.
+Tim Jiang Theoretically, if you had a very poorly ventilated case in a room with scorching ambient temperatures, that might be within the bounds of expectation, but in all realistic scenarios, something is probably wrong. I have little trust in stock coolers, neither am I a fan of Intel, but I doubt that even they would consider 95 degrees to be okay.
I have a few questions…
If your cpu heats up to 100C will it melt?
Should I get an aftermarket cooler such as the Scythe Big Shuriken 2
SCBSK-2100 or rely on the intel haswell i5 stock cooler?
Can you run the cpus stock cooler and aftermarket cooler together?
If you do intensive tasks such as gaming will the intel cooler get a lot
louder? I was in a library once using a computer with a very loud fan. It
got really loud whenever I played an online game (shockwave) or when it was
being slow.
1. No, but modern ones will automatically shut down at a temperature much below that anyways.2. Depends on your tasks, but an aftermarket cooler is usually better than a stock one.3. No, you cannot.4. No, the noise shouldn't be that much more under gaming, but that depends also on your GPU and case fans..
Hi i want to get a closed loop watercooler but i don't know what to
get.Some people say you should go for a h100i/h110 but other people say the
NZXT Kraken X61 is better. Just wanted other peoples opinions.
Get the corsair H80i, I have it on my stock speed FX-6300 and the CPU temp never goes above 25 Celsius idle at the lowest fan speed(800rpm). plus since it's an 'i' series cooler it supports corsair link.
Can someone help me please, i bought a prebuilt pc and i have problems with
it, sometimes crashes (blue screen), boot problems (after the crash), and i
have the CPU temperature high 48c without using the pc, and not only that i
have the auxiliary temperature high 190 (pretty sure its the program not
reading it properly) i don't even know what is auxiliary.
The case its not even hot so can someone help me about this. I use hwinfo
to monitor the temperatures
There are multiple factors that can result in blue-screens. I do not suggest buying a new CPU cooler as of yet because you said it runs at 48 degrees (I am guessing Celsius). Some of the factors that can lead to blue-screening is your PSU, motherboard, even RAM (from what I remember). I suggest you look at some sites like this... //www.howtogeek.com/163452/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-blue-screen-of-death/If this does not resolve the issue you may want to individually test out specific components such as the PSU on a different system that works, this way you can find the fault in the hardware.Hope this helps.
is it a stock cooler? if it is, then try getting a good aftermarket cooler. It could also be a driver issue if you haven't updated your drivers for a long time
I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me out! I will be building
my very first gaming/editing pc soon but I do not know what the best specs
are. My budget is £500 and it will be for gaming/editing! Please tell me if
I can improve on this build!
Case: BitFenix Prodigy M Arctic White MicroATX Mini Tower Case
CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
GPU: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card
PSU: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
//uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Bf3yRB
Make sure the memory works with the motherboard. Pick up a 256gb SSD later. Put the OS and programs on a SSD. Keep your games on your HDD. It's also a great way to protect against viruses.
+Trap Twistyy I assume you are in the UK? I look online for PC parts, and I need to know what country you're in for shipping because some things can only be shipped inside the US and things.
The case says "mini-tower," if it is small, don't buy it. It is much easier to work on a large case. Get a large NZXT case. I have one and they are amazing. And, if you can, get a AMD/Gigabyte motherboard. I have a black one (A Series), and it is great. This ram is great too; Its 8GB HyperX FurryX if I am correct. I was able to build a incredible gaming PC/editing PC for just about 400$ US.Here are what I used:Motherboard: Gigabyte/AMD A Series Black Edition Micro ATXRam: 8 gigs, Fury HyperXPower supply: Corsair CX 430, 430ish watts 12voltsDVD drive thing: Samsung Super Writermaster DVD Multi RecorderSSD: Premier Pro SP600 128 gigabyte Internal SSDKeyboard/Mouse: Logitech (Refurbished) MK520 USB wireless ergonomic keyboard&mouseCase: NZXT Source ABS/Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower (Window)Microphone: Frisby Stand Alone Microphone (I bought this thing years ago, so not much specs on it.)Monitor: HP W2072a (20in.)Processor/CPU: Not sure what to include/disclude. Some AMD A6-5400K Trinity Dual-Core 3.6GHz CPU + GPU 65 Watt and so on.I build it for 357.25€ (Euros) I'm not sure what money £ stands for.
Sony Laptop Heatsink Cleaning/Replacement
In this video we will cover how to clean and disassemble a Sony VAIO F Series Laptop. Also the replacement of the back-lit keyboard, then how to access the ...
Thank you for the video. My fan blade isn't working anymore cause one of
the blades are broken and threw it out of balance which caused the fan to
not work anymore. I will have to replace it with a new one, however looking
at your video, i did have a question. Is there any screws that would have
to be loosen on the fan assembly other than the ones on the GPU and
graphics card?
+Elegant Mess (MDG) I replaced my fan assembly. It's running at 54C average. I pulled out the cpu by accident, the paste had dried up but I put it back in.
+Angel Munoz I apologize for the lateness of my reply, I've really busy with work lately. But it will depend on your specific model as some of the fans can come right out with just a few screws, or some fans would need to be replaced with a new heatsink assembly which still isn't too expensive, maybe $20 vs. the $5 for just the fan itself.
Awesome video. My Vaio FPCF111FX was idling at 85-93C and randomly
shutting down.. Followed your instructions and now it idles at 47-52C.
Same temp drop for the GPU. Only took about 30 minutes to disassemble and
reassemble. Used Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound.
Alcohol would not phase the dried compound in the least bit so I had to
grit my teeth and VERY CAREFULLY take a small flat blade to the chips to
remove the stuff from the top of the CPU and GPU. I guess I was successful
because I'm typing this comment out on the Vaio.
Again thank you for the video I have a lot of experience building desktops
but never got into tearing apart laptops!
+Andrew Glover You're very welcome, and I was in the same boat at one point. Had done lots of PC builds, but never really had much experience in laptops. Until I needed to that is, as you can tell it takes a little more time but is well worth it in the end. I have come across several laptops myself where I literally had to use a razor blade & shave the thermal paste off so I know how you feel. Regardless, I'm glad that this was able to help & I'm glad all worked out well in the end :-)
Wow that worked great! And you video was very good and easy to follow. I
was almost dissapointed we came to the end of the tutorial cause I felt
confident with your 'help' and was enjoying this open hearth surgery of my
laptop, lol!
+MrSjeupie HaHaHa ! I'm glad that this video helped because it can feel a bit daunting to do if you're not very comfortable with it. So thank you for watching & your kind words !
Hey there, I just cleaned and changed the thermal paste on my vpcf11m1e and
I still get a lot of heat.
Here is my readings:
Idle - GPU 45Cº / CPU 48-50Cº
Youtube video at 1080p - GPU 50Cº / CPU 55-60Cº
Live Stream Twitch.tv - GPU 58Cº / CPU 60-65Cº
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I can hear my fan working most of the time, now only with my browser open
my fan is at 2700-3000RPM. I don't get it.
Any ideas?
+Ophiussa This is alright. I had to watch this video because I was reaching TDP max 100 degrees, and the laptop would just shutdown. So your temperature readings for i7 720QM or (+) series are fucking amazing, congratulations !
+KnowingDasEin Don't know if you fixed it, but sometimes you can put a rubberband atop the screw head and then try pressing very hard to get more traction
+KnowingDasEin You can totally go to a home depot, Radio Shack (if there;s still one open around you), Lowe's, etc and take the screw with you or if it's too destroyed you can just take one of the other ones with you & ask them to match the size & threading for you. They are actually pretty common screws so shouldn't be too hard to find one. Let me know how you turn out, & obviously if/when you get them grab a couple extra because they're cheap & really nice to have on hand!
Aftermarket vs. reference GPU cooling in the NZXT H440
Since posting my CPU cooling video in the H440, I have had a lot of people ask me about GPU temperatures in this case. Many of you are thinking about doing ...
You need to understand about thermal efficiency, higher ambient air
temperature inside case= cooler components. lower ambient air temperature
inside case= hotter components. The GPU with the ACX cooler is more
efficient at disipating the heat away from the graphics card into the
ambient air in case than the blower style cooler on the reference design.
The more equal the temperature of the ambient air temperature in case is to
the component temperature, the better your card is able to remove heat from
the GPU, VRM's and RAM at a quicker rate.
Now you ask how would they be cooler? well let me make an analogy, You have
1 balloon filled in a tank with air. The balloon has higher pressure in it,
Compared to the ambient pressure of the tank, you prick a little hole in it
and the pressure decreases in the ballon but the pressure increases in the
ambient pressure of the tank. The faster the air pressure of the balloon
equalises with the ambient air pressure tank, the more efficient the heat
transfer is, Thus the ACX cooler is *better* at cooling the card than the
Reference version.
To increase gross cooling, Install better ventilation in case. A fan
actually sucking the Hot air OUT of the ambient in case air will aid
performance of the cooler better than forcing more cool air onto the
intake.