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HHO Basics - Learn the Science Behind Browns Gas Production - HHO Basics
HHO Basics - Learn the Science Behind Browns Gas - HHO Basics This video gives you some serious basic information that you can use to design and build a ...
Good principals for traditional brute force electrolysis. I encourage
developers to look into Stanley Meyers approach in primarily using Voltage
rather than Current as a means of breaking the electrical bond of H2O.
Benefits include lower temperatures and you wont need to rely on an
electrolyte mix; making it cleaner. The most important component is the
Voltage Intensifier Circuit. Using Stainless Steel 316L low carbon marine
grade is the best material for anodes and cathodes.
Great Video, people that experiment with HHO need to know this. Neutral
plates are essential in HHO Cells, because they lower the voltage per plate
and also reduce amperage, by increasing the distance between POS & NEG
plates. (Amps = Heat) An Amp Meter is a necessity, and so is a 12V 15A or
20A Circuit breaker, so you don't continually waste money on fuses.
mcmaster carr has a great website for purchasing materials and
essentialdepot(dot)com has Lye or KOH at great prices.
You can purchase prefab units online complete with PWM but building one
yourself is a far less expensive way to get started. Begin by building my
basic design (paste this number ->3LVhNj5Hf0 in the search box ) and then
move up from there once you have figured out the basics. Unless you are
getting into a larger unit a Pulse Width Modulator wont give you much of an
increase in production of HHO gas anyway.
Sorry I am just responding to this post. I talked with the guys from the
lab there and they shut down the whole thing. It's too bad because their
pwm boards were the best I ever seen. Any pwm with a high amp rating will
work but theirs had far more adjustments for duty cycle and pulse width
control as well as amp control which is very rare.
@terrystech hi terry you have a very good knowledge on the water fueling as
i am look to get the same concept introduce not for car but for generators
on the same principal do you want to be involved in it i am talking
coperative, no red tape and open to all market in the third world as i am
working on it. [email protected]
@terrystech hi terry you have a very good knowledge on the water fueling as
i am look to get the same concept introduce not for car but for generators
on the same principal do you want to be involved in it i am talking
coperative, no red tape and open to all market in the third world as i am
working on it.
Wow I am sorry I just noticed I never responded to your question. A dry
cell unit can still overheat because of high current draw which will cause
the water to heat up beyond a point that it is producing only HHO. If it
gets hot enough to produce steam it's actually defeating itself.
Absolutely the best and most thorough HHO explanation in a shortest amount
of time that i have seen yet on Youtube after many months of searching.
This guy is a great teacher. Not many have this talent. Congrats, Terry...
and thanks for the info.
Thanks for the video, i got lots of help from it ! Im new by this. Want you
ask...if i use stainless steel canister is it good idea put negative- to
it? so the Hydrogen produce will be more efficent?
Copper breaks down very quickly so it should never be used. I have heard of
people using copper and having pieces of copper get into their
engine....not a good scenario.
//www.hydrowaterpower.com/ //www.hydrowaterpower.com/hydrogenOrder.htm "HHO gas is produced from generators, fuel cells or car kits and can ...
354 plate MASSIVE HHO Hydrogen gas Production Retail system.
For more information please visit //www.greenfuelh2o.com The system is this video was sold for waste water treatment. This system is available for purchase ...
Are there any good HHO forum that are still active? Every one I've seen
seems to have fizzled out several years ago and have very little traffic on
them now. It looks as if there was a big surge of HHO activity from 2008
to about 2013, then it sort of died off.
+delvis11 I'm more of a forum guy. Here's a build log for the hydrogen separation cell I've been working on. The 3D printed one is working much better than my first attempt using conventional methods. This is on a blimp forum, since all the HHO forums are lifeless now: //www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2537905&page=2#post33383638
+delvis11 I'm working on a 3D printed separation cell that should be interesting. It's a dry cell, but does not use rubber gaskets and the metal plates have no holes or edges exposed. The unit can not be disassembled though, once it is glued together there is no going back. For a 60 plate unit it is going to take over 120 hours to print all the parts, that's the only down side. It's not a big print job that you can just let run all day either, it's 120 separate prints that each only take one hour to print. Ugh!
+delvis11 Gas prices are artificially low right now, OPEC is trying to put the American suppliers out of business by driving prices down through over production. I don't know how long that game can last, what has happened in the past is that the American companies actually do get forced to stop production until prices rise again. With India and China having grown to such large industrialized countries now, there's no way gas prices will ever settle back to the $1.20 range it was at for so long. Those days are just gone unless some massive new oil reserves were discovered which have easy access and low extraction costs like what they have in the Middle East. I think all the low hanging fruit has been picked at this point, new sources are going to get progressively more expensive to extract.
+delvis11 Has the government ever shut anyone down? I think I remember reading about a lawsuit against one company that was making unsubstantiated claims for their kits or instruction books. It does look like a lot of companies that were selling HHO gear a few years ago are out of business now. I think you would have to diversify away from just auto applications to stay in business when gas is cheap.
+pyronaught Yeah hho is huge when gas prices are high. Now no one cares. I have been here since 2008 and am not going anywhere unless the government shuts me down :)
This unit should be safer with the H and O being separated compared to that
first one you made that was outputting HHO. I would be leery of that
pressure release valve on the bubbler being able to release fast enough
with a massive quantity of HHO bubbling in there like in your original
one. With this one you probably don't even need those flash arrestors on
there.
+delvis11 I did watch that one a few days ago. I kept trying to stop the video right on the fireball frame to see how far down it was getting but couldn't time it right. It looks like almost half the canister has fire in it though. That test doesn't have the extreme bubble output that your monster HHO generator was making though. I wonder what would happen if you did this same test with the monster HHO generator? Outside while hiding behind a wall of course :)
I think multiple independent cells like this is the way to go rather than
the one large one you made before where everything was tied together in one
big block. Makes trouble shooting and maintenance a lot easier, and you
can adjust output by how many of them you power up. I see people making
one giant monster stack for high LPM too, I just don't like that method
either even though it probably is cheaper due to having less hardware. The
compression force has to be a lot more on those long stacks, then you can't
have the bolts external to the plates or the end blocks will bow, then the
plate and gasket fabrication gets more complex.
+delvis11 I've been promoting the use of hydrogen on the rcgroups blimp forum, with cost comparisons and video links showing the false perceptions of hydrogen safety risks. When helium prices spiked a few years back, outdoor RC blimping saw a huge downturn. Perhaps hydrogen can bring it back.
+delvis11 you would be filling the balloons with H, not HHO. So they will still burn if you ignite them, but they won't explode the way HHO will. It is a much less aggressive burn. But it would still be a fire hazard for indoor balloon trees and clusters of many balloons put together which would result in a chain reaction and a much bigger fireball. So it would be limited to outdoor use I think. For RC blimps that are being operated by professionals and not within the reach of kids the safety risk is minimal, especially outdoors. Since big blimps are gas hogs, a lot of money could be saved there by using H over He. I have a feeling the sports stadiums would not allow hydrogen filled blimps to be flown inside though, which is a shame because that is where the majority of commercial RC blimps get flown. The Hindenburg footage has created what I call Hydrogen Phobia among the general public, and that's a tough thing to overcome. Then you have people who are so dumbed down that they think the hydrogen bomb is created by burning hydrogen, so there's a lot of ignorance to overcome.
+delvis11 I eventually want to make a big one like this because I need some serious LPM of hydrogen for filling RC blimps. A 90cf RC blimp costs $90 to fill with helium, but less than $2 to fill with DIY hydrogen from HHO separation cells. It doesn't take long to recover your investment with that kind savings! Helium is really too valuable to be pissing away on party balloons anyway, I wish there was a big push to switch over to hydrogen for all party balloons and outdoor aerostats. If that ever happened it might create a big new demand for these electrolysis type generators. Using my 90cf blimp example, it still costs me $20 plus tank rental to fill it with commercial hydrogen. So even the savings there is over 10 times cheaper and justification for an on-demand system.