+Ohad Blaier I can't find the guide I used.. but this one seems to be a lot better://www.graysonkilmer.com/2015/09/03/how-to-setup-the-hi-hat-pedal-in-superior-drummer-2Good luck!
+thebeaterz16 My hihat is just a single zoned cymbal.It doesn't really open or close.I'v bought a digital hihat pedal, that changes the midi noted based on its position.So basicly you need a module and a pedal that both supports variable hihat sounds.
My biggest concern is also the hi-hat. How did you set up the open/close sound and is it a linear change? Do you have a linear potentiometer built in and how does all that wire and set up? Do you have a tutorial on that or some link? I appreciate your help. That kit is great. I can't wait to play one myself.
+thebeaterz16 Thanks!First of all, you should take enough space between the piezos. Then use PVC to dampen the vibrations of the cymbal.And last, use your module's settings for deviding 2 zones.Your cable has to be a stereo 1/4 (look for 2 black stripes on the connector). That way you could connect 2 piezos.The module also has to support the type of cable, and 2 zoned drums..
+Ohad Blaier That's some great work. I really want to make something like this but I can't figure out how the piezos wouldn't disturb each other. I also don't really understand how you can get 2 different sounds through the trs jack, how to wire the thing or how the module would interpret the signals differently. Could you explain?
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Dual Zone Remo Practice Pad e-Drum Conversion - SEE What's Inside
This is how to make a DIY dual trigger edrum vdrum electronic drum pad from a Remo practice pad. This video is a follow up to my demo of the Remo pad ...
@rodrig0sur .. Your english is fine. In my application both piezos are
wired to the same stereo (TRS) jack. Head is connected to Tip and Sleeve,
Rim is connected to Ring and Sleeve. Weather or not this will work for you
will depend on the type of module or interface you are connecting the pad
to. I am using a Roland TD-20. The TD-20 uses dual trigger inputs. If your
module does not, then you would need to split out the Rim and Head into
two, individule, Non-Stereo (Tip/Sleeve) type cables.
@erlcraft1 .. - I used Pfifer SunTex 90 Solar Screen. I bought mine from a
local custom screen company. I bought a roll for about $90.00. You tube
won't let me put an internet link in this reply. Search the internet for "
Pfifer Suntex 90" for mail order suppliers or try some Hardware Stores like
Lowes or Home Depot. I have used Marine Grade and also 5 Minute Epoxy. I
even had success with Super Glue. the Super Glue needs to be held air tight
with wax paper and a sponge to cure
@erlcraft1 ... find foam in various thickness at craft and fabric stores.
things to check: - mounting bolts do not touch metal disc, I cut a relief
in my disc to be sure it would not touch disc max diameter needs to be
smaller than the foam and case, disc cannot touch anything but foam. after
testing, then glue in place to keep from moving try a smaller piezo for the
"rim", my rim piezo is a 27mm the "head" is 35mm try a variable resistor in
series w/piezos to adj signal out
@K2CCracker There are plenty of simple mounting techniques for a base
trigger, you don't even need to go this elaborate. A section of plywood
with the trigger on one side and the beater stiking the other side. then
mount some gum rubber sheet to the beater side and some heavy sponge rubber
on the trigger side. and then the sponge rubber to another section of ply
that is attached to a vertical support. Cover the beater side with mesh to
dress it up if you want to.
Yes these work with a wide variety of modules. the pads run from about $10
for a used one to about 35 for a new one. there are other brands out there
too that will work. even less expensive is to trigger a rubber pad on a
wood board, please read the full description in my videos to find other
resources. I do not have any direct knowledge on building a drum module
(brain) there are a few I/O devices that can be DIY but you need a pc to
complete the system.
I built the second drum pad as the conversion you are showing. I am getting
a lot of cross talk between the two triggers. I think the foam above and
below the metal plate may be to tight. I was not able to cut the Remo foam
disk in half very well. Do you know if there is a place to find two pieces
of foam the right thickness to put the metal plate between. I mounted the
rim trigger in the same location as you with double sided foam tape.
@matthewcjenkins the pad is velosity sensitive. The pad itself produces a
trigger pulse that has an amplitude relative to how hard the pad is struck.
The drum module it is connected to uses the trigger pulse to produce a
varing drum sound based on how hard the pad is hit - alot is dependent on
the ability of the particular module being used. I have another video for
this same pad that shows it being struck, conected to a Roland TD-20
@erlcraft1 What drum module are you using. if posible try selecting a
different pad type for that port in your module. also, if your module
allows, you may try to adj trigger levels in the module for this pad. The
comment about an adjustable resistor allows to decrease the signal strength
for the individual piezos for modules that are getting too hot of a signal
from the drum pad.
Thank You for that awesome information. I found a roll of thePfifer SunTex
90 Solar Screen 36" x 84" at Home Depot for less than $10.00. I am going
to make one of your conversions pads next. My project was replacing one of
my Hart Dynamics Prodigy Kit drum pads. I cut the head out of the hoop that
came with the practice pad and super glued the screen material to it.
@matthewcjenkins Cool, be sure to pick your module first, as some modules
require a smaller signal(smaller piezo) than others.. You can also add a
variable resistor in series to bring down the signal if it is too hot. it
is an easy build - have fun. oh, one more thing, be sure to check out the
vdrums forum at vdrums dot com. There is a wealth of knowledge there
@brien hipps .. In short , Yes. The pad does not actually 'make' the sound
. The pad only 'triggers' the sound.. The sound, or 'voice' is generated by
your electronic drum module, or by your computer drum software. The pad
would simply connect to the drum module. Or to a Trigger To MIDI Interface
(TMI), and then to a computer running a drum program.
@erlcraft1 - really cool man. It makes my day to know this helped another.
Maybe you can post some build pics at the vdrums DIY forum. it is free to
sign up. I can't put the URL in this reply, but the web com address is
vdrums - you can navigate to the forum and then to DIY section. Hope to see
your build. I am member RACER52 at the vdrums forum
thanks! could you answer some questions? I want edrums but they are too
expensive I was thinking diy I found this through edrum (dot) info How much
is the cost for a remo practice pad? Can i make these then buy a drum
brain? Will they work with it? Alternatively do you know resources to build
them yourself, without using the computer though?
@K2CCracker - Sorry no video planned anytime soon. pretty much the same ,
except you only need one trigger. Put the piezo well off center so the
beater does not strike it. Also, use a heavy sponge foam to better dampen
the heavy blows of the bass pedal. Then mount the pad on a vertical
pedestal and mount your pedal to the base of it.
I have a doubt about dual zone pads. Do both piezos connect in one stereo
jack? Does the module receive both piezos signals in one connection? Or
does each piezo of the dual pad connect seperately to the module? Hope you
understand my English. Thanks very much, Rodrigo from Uruguay
Much appreciated! I will check it out. I've read some triggers - I believe
the Alesis IO has an adjustable input. I suppose I could also build these
with a pot in series, as a sort of sensitivity control. Hmmm. I'll check
out vdrums.com. Thanks again!
The DIY Bass Drum Footpedal Trigger Re-Design
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i really want to build an electronic drum kit for myself. but what are
really this PIEZZO ? after making all this triggers, which or what
controller will it be connected to. is this piezzo available in ordinary
electronic shops? Thanks.