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You are really funey..you just say it is, and the discusion is over..pls..Everything in world on this planet is advansing and basketball too..The lvl is much higher now..Those days everything was slow..Lebron would avrage in that era 50ppg.20ass 20reb,Look at the clips from that era how slow everything is..footwork just laughable,And when i look at some players who play fine then,,now they wouldnt play in my street..they would bring us watter and towels.
+Marko Stojanovic the NBA champions 50 years ago were the best basketball team in the world. No one in the world could beat them. I get tired of people not thinking about what they are saying when they compare eras. The best of today are the same as the best players of 50 years ago. They are the best of that time, how in the world can you compare without changing circumstances for each team thus not comparing apples to apples but apples to oranges
Gonna go ahead and say it, Oscar Robertson is completely wrong and NO,
doesnt have the right to say what he said, even if he played the game and
is a big classic superstar. Why? Simple, because everyone is playing under
the same set of rules. What that means is that if he played in a tough era,
where you could literally punch a person if you wanted to, well great,
everyone played under those rules and you excelled. Good for you.
Curry is playing under the same set of rules that Durant,
Lebron,Harden,Westbrook and all the other 450 players in the nba play.
Actually, he´s playing under the same rules everybody is playing since
1996-97. So, why didnt any of the 2000 players that have played since 1997
done what Curry is doing? Why is Curry obviously better than all the other
superstars that play today? If its so easy, why isnt Lebron or Durant doing
what he is doing? Is Curry priviledged by rules in today´s game? Is he
permited to do things like hand checking or something? Isnt he playing in
the same NBA as other superstars, hall of famers are?
Basically Oscar Robertson and anybody that agrees with him are saying that
old players will ALWAYS be better than the new players, since it would be
imposible for a new player to play in the past. Its a stupid statement from
the beginning, and it really makes no sense. I could probably go ahead and
be ridicolous and say, well nobody could dribble like Curry in the 60s, so
he would actually score 60 points per game because nobody would even
understand what he is doing. ITs the same stupid argument...
What you compare is the competition, and he is right now the mvp, having
one of the best, if not the best NBA season ever, he is going to win MVP
again, and his team has the chance to break the all time winning record...
Its really stupid to hate on Curry, I dont even like him and people make me
say all this shit.
Go watch full game tapes (not just highlights, because you will also see
the bad stuff) from the early 60s. The 1962 season (Oscar triple double,
Wilt 50 ppg) was the worst defensive season ever and should have asterisk
attached to it. They played crazy pick up game pace with absolutely zero
defense especially on perimeter, teams averaged about 150 possessions per
game (95 per game today), there where only about 20 % black players and
most of the league couldn't jump, shoot, dribble and the only player who
even tried on defense was Russell..If you send LeBron or MJ in that era,
they would think they are aliens..
When people talk about physical defense in the 80/90s..there where really
only 2 teams who played like that, Bad Boy Pistons and Riley's Knicks..the
only way the Pistons were able to stop prime Jordan (the Jordan rules) was
by physically assaulted him. Rest of the league in the 80s played faster
pace then today with so so defense. The game changed significantly from
1995-2005, which was the slowest and toughest defensive era ever. After the
2004 Pistons defeated the Lakers and hold Kobe to an awful shooting series
the league decided to change the hand checking and 3 sec defense rules in
order to speed up and open the game, resulting in monster increase in
perimeter scoring (Kobe's 35 ppg in 06) and domination of the point guard
era (SSOL Suns and Nash MVPs etc..)
In the 80s Curry would destroy the league as nobody really guarded the 3pt
line and he would only have problems against the Pistons (just like MJ). He
would be probably much less efficient in the 1995-2005 era against slow
defensive teams like the Spurs, Bulls and Pistons
Its strange, because most of those old guys played a slower game, more half
sets, much more physical. You could get away with not being a great
athlete, or not being a great defender because you could just smack
someone. You put those bigs in the game today and people just shoot over
them, run them around. "Curry wouldnt survive in our games" they might not
have survived in todays game.
I'm an old folk and I say Curry is better than Isaiah Thomas. If those old critics were playing today as young players, would they be better than Curry? Hell no. Rough play is trickery. Pure skill wins.
+imsteezy1 Call me what you want, but this actually speaks more about this current generation. Using words like 'old, bitter, and salty, irrelevant, etc' just shows how sensitive, pc, sissified , and pampered THIS generation is. Why can't THIS generation take ANY criticism? I'm not trolling, i'm asking.