Belgian congo map Videos

+Abdulqader Almami Lol arab scums were imperialists even thousand years ago but karma laugh your face.. Arabs bitches of Whites your natural resources is ours :)))

+CPTsymmetry We as humans cannot allow ourselves to forget past crimes and failings. If we do so history will repeat itself. It's wider than nationality; it is the responsibility of us all.

black lives matter

+Black Queen en waaruit maak jij uit dat ik een racist zou zijn? Leer eerst eens wat een racist is en doe dan pas je mond open

+Patrick Van Gelder ga weg racist

+Clau. Diatje troll

The Belgian government still claiming Congo. But of course you white people Will not know or believe that because they Will never show these information on news

+Mahtlahtli Excellent assessment. Couldn't agree more with everything you wrote.Good use of the counterfactual chain of argument on your part. You point out exactly what should have happened (investigations, trials, and convictions of those responsible), but didn't, due to complacency in large portions of the Belgian government and population at the time.

+Mahtlahtli lol, I even want reply to this childish exercise, you dont understand anything what I say and your infantile psychological profiling is hilarious

+Ralph Bernhard Couldn't agree with you Ralph more with what you said. Its quite obvious, Patrick is probably Belgian and is merely trying to tone down the horror of Belgium's past. He is just denying denying denying, all just to paint Belgium positively.

+Patrick Van Gelder Im sorry but are you an idiot?? Where did I say that the Congo was under Belgian government control? What a complete moron. I know that it was Leopolds land you idiot, stop putting words in my mouth.What type of idiot are you?Wait, so you are telling me that if large portions of a population support a dictator they get to be killed? So the civilians of Iraq deserve to be killed bc they supported Saddam?Okay then, so that means that countless number of Belgian civilians also deserve to be killed because there were so many Belgians that viewed leopold as a national hero. But of course you are going to be furious by this and going to come up with an excuse as to why its okay to kill non-Europeans but not Belgians.What the hell are you talking about? I never said you were a fan of colonialism, what is it with you of putting words in my mouth? There is no reason for you to tell me that. What you are doing is diverging from the conversation and trying to make me look like I am spewing fallacies about you when I never made them in the first place. Its very cheesy and childish.Leopold wasn't elected? so what? that does not mean millions of Belgian citizens didnt support him. Hirohito wasn't elected either, and yet his people were still punished for crimes the people didnt commit.Saddam wasn't elected either. He came to power through corruption and through military succession.  Also, why the hell does it matter if Hitler was elected? The german people didn't vote to gas the jews. people didnt vote for Hitler because they wanted to annex foreign territory, he never mentioned any of this during his campaigns.The German citizens had absolutely no clue that Hitler was planning a mass execution. So stop trying to make it justifiable as to why innocent german citizens should have been killed.I really can't believe that you are actually making up excuses as to why its okay for civilians to be massacred. You are despicable.  All you are doing is making small tiny excuses as to why it is okay to punish an entire country for one strongman( so long as its not Belgium) .  This is EXACTLY was Ralph said, you are apologizing to Belgium's horrific pass by dumbing it down and creating this "Belgian exception".Of course Leo had to give the territory back to the government you dimwit, where in my comment did I say that didn't happen? Once again, you are putting words in my mouth to try to portray me as a liar, even though I never said such things.Here's a question for you: If you are telling me that the Belgian government is innocent, after the government took Leo's territory, why didnt the government force Leo to pay reparations to the congolese? Why didnt the government punish Leopold in the courts for his crime against humanity? Leo was a citizen of Belgium, and when a citizen of a country commits atrocious acts against humanity, it is the government's responsibility to punish them.You know what? The current government of Cambodia was not responsible for the Khmer genocide, but they STILL (even though i have to admit they have done a shitty job) are putting people to justice who worked for the Khmer Rouge. The West German government (which had absolutely nothing to do with the Holocaust) has for many countless of years after 1945 tried to hunt down and prosecute many highly ranked Nazis. So why is it okay for the Belgian government to not have to punish king leopold, why countless of other government have punished past gov officials for crimes the current government didnt commit ?I think it is quite safe for me to assume that you are merely a very offended Belgian who really really despised this video because it portrays your country negatively(which is perfectly normal for utranationalist ignorant youtubers). you clearly are just making this "Belgian exception" because you are a  butthurt citizen. Oh, and I love it how you end your sentence with the typical pissed off youtuber response" go read a history book". Its a clever way just trying to put everything I said down instantly without having to address each of my points directly.Your genocidal excuses clearly demonstrate that your sense of nationalism is much more important than the acknowledgement of the horrors of the Belgian Congo genocide

+Ralph Bernhard OK it seems you're thickheaded, I NEVER claimed that is was BETTER, I only say that showing a movie with the title Belgium in the Congo genocide is not correct (as you just admitted)

+Patrick Van Gelder Nope. With your comments, you wish to extricate the Belgian people from the crimes committed in the Congo. There is even a term for this - apologia.It's the typical 'finger pointing'. It's the typical '... nothing to do with me...'.It's the typical 'I wasn't even born yet'-attitude. And yes, you are correct that the Belgian crimes which carried on after the Belgian state took charge were not worse than elsewhere, but merely mentioning 'not worse', means that they also NOT BETTER. Isn't that also terrible? Some more sound deductive reasoning for you there:-)I don't know if you are Belgian, but if you are, then stop making a mockery of your people.

+Ralph Bernhard indeed nobody cared a fuck, it surprises me that you seems so naive. The crimes like the ones committed by Leopold II stopped and I will not claim that colonialism is good or morally defendable but I bet it was not worse than any of the other colonial powers. The movie here is showing the attrocities under Leopold II thus not under Belgian rule. Indeed dear Ralph, learn some history

+Patrick Van Gelder​​ Nope, I merely exposed you for the apologist that you are.So, you state that the King of Belgium merely did on his own private property as he pleased, and nobody cared a f*ck. There were no massive forms of opposition from within the population, even though the crimes were well known. There were even caricatures in the papers for years before anybody acted. So? Belgians were simply innocent bystanders, letting their king murder and dismember millions of innocent people? Then, AFTER Leopold was disowned, the crimes continued well into the 1920s, and even until independence.So, Patrick, who is it who has to learn history?

+Ralph Bernhard well dear Ralph, speaking about cherry picking, that same year before the 33 % they also scored a 37%. If you have elections with around 7 major parties and you manage to score around 40%, that' s massive support, the second party, SPD scored a little more than half of that number. This is in a democratic system not enough for totalitarian rule, you need at least 51% that why he took the power, but he was backed up by at least 14 million voters. But anyway this was not the start of the discussion, you were just wrong about the position of the Belgian king you granted him too much power.

+Patrick Van Gelder Based on facts, the last reasonably fair elections in Germany took place a year before that. The NSDAP received around 33% in that election.The election you have cherry picked to underline your statement, was already accompanied by massive street violence, voter intimidation (for example against social democrats and communists), rigging, etc. Today, such a result would not be considered valid.Even IF we use the 44% who voted for the NSDAP, how do you reach the conclusion that this was 'massive support'?Secondly, a statement that a totalitarian dictator has 'massive support' is as illogical as it is ridiculous.If a dictator had such massive support, he wouldn't need to be a dictator. He could just allow opposition, and then easily beat them in a fair election (based on the fact that the overwhelming number of people supported him and his views).So, Patrick. Do you see what sound deductive reasoning means now?Why was the sooooooooo popular uncle Adolph a dictator, if his adoring Volk would have overwhelmingly voted for him?

+Ralph Bernhard lol, when you win elections in 1933 with 44% in a multi-party state that is text book definition of massive support, really boy, I told you already several times educate yourself, I even want answer you again. You don't know the difference between dictators and symbolic kings, you 're excusing the Germans, wir haben es nicht gewusst is apparently a valuable excuse, sad deeply sad

+Patrick Van Gelder​​ Well, the amount of bullshit you write, makes it difficult to know where to start.Here is one example.You assert that 'Hitler had massive support from the German people'.Any evidence for that statement?I assume that you know the principle that ANY arsehole can make a statement, yet ONLY statements substantiated by evidence, or followed up by sound deductive reasoning, are also valid.

+Ralph Bernhard well proof yourself right or stop boring me kid

+Mahtlahtli Don't we all just love history 'experts' who start their comments by claiming others to be morons ;-)

+Mahtlahtli What Ralph said is complete moronic and thus this goes also for your infantile logic. Saddam was supported by and large by the sunnite majority of his country, the Japanese emperor had god-like status among the japanese and thus his decisions were applauded by the population, Hitler had a massive support by the German population etc...but Leopold II was just a king while the true power was in the hands of the parliament and the government, thus an entirely different situation like the ones you and Ralph are mentioning. Under international pressure, Leo II had to hand Congo over to Belgium (strange isn't it, according to you it was always in the hands of Belgium) and from than on Belgium law was applied in Congo, the attrocities stopped and the Belgian army defeated the arab slavehunters. I am not a fan of colonialism , all western colonial countries were wrong, but this movie is also plain wrong.I have two suggestions for you, 1- start to learn history, start to learn the definition of power, grow some brains, 2- if you are unable to get suggestion 1 than shut up or read some Wittgenstein "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen"

+Patrick Van Gelder Patrick, What Ralph said was completely legitimate. you sir are just trying to come up with an excuse for this double standard. This double standard being that if a dictator attacks Western countries(hitler), the entire country must be blamed for it. And yet you refuse to apply that exact same logic to Leopold.All you are doing is completely dismissing everything Ralph says, which is very cheap and cheesy. It was Hitler (not the germany people) who decided to invade poland, gas millions of jews/blacks/gypsies/slavs/socialists. It was hitler(not the germans) who bombed and severely harmed so many civilians in the land that they captured throughout europe.But you know what? The Allies didnt give a damn. When they won, they punished the entire country by not allowing them to build another army ever again, punished the entire country by bombing so many civilians and flattening cities to the ground. And punished the entire country by forcing them to play countless amounts of reparations to the allies and obviously to the jews and israel.The same thing can be said for Saddam. It wasnt the iraqis who wanted to invade kuwait and iran. it wasnt the iraqis who gased the kurds. It was only saddam. But you know what? the entire country was punished (reparations after the kuwait invasion, blockade and stations that resulted in thousands of deaths of children bc of medical stuff and obviously the 2nd invasion that left the country in turmoil, once more they have to face increased levels of terrorisn and ISIS). Why did the iraqi people have to suffer from all of this when they had absolutely nothing to do with it?It wasnt the Japanese who wanted to attack pearl harbor. It was the emperor. And yet who were the ones who suffered the most during the nuke bombings? Why did thousands of civilians have to die for something they didnt do?It makes absolutely no logical sense why colonial powers like belgium get away with genocide while countless of other nations who have attacked teh west have had their citizens and entire country punished.You Sir are a complete hypocrite. And I wouldnt be surprised if you were being bias toward Belgium if you were Belgian yourself (you username gives me a hint).

+Ralph Bernhard again buddy educate yourself, the king of belgium was not a dictator not at all comparable to Hitler his situation. I am personally against a kingdom but in Belgium there was a democratic rule from the start on

+Patrick Van Gelder Both were undemocratic authoritarian rulers, but both were still the head of state.In both cases (Germany and Belgium respectively) the populations had nothing to do with the crimes, but were responsible for the actions of their heads of state (although not guilty).

+Ralph Bernhard educate yourself a bit, learn what a parliamental democratic state is and than start to imagin your comparison is utterly wrong. If I buy a house in Germany, than this is by no means Belgian property, it is my own private property, may be this analogy clears it a bit up for you

Well, concerning another historical event, easily explained away with a bit of imagination...Most people also mix up Germany's occupation of Poland with king Hitler. These atrocities were done when Poland (or the Generalgouvernement), was his private property, like a large backyard...thus the Germans had no power over what King Hitler was doing in Poland because Hitler was Austrian.So I guess there were no laws at that time to prevent this, simply because Germany had no colonies.....

@Adonay96 k since flymirna is a complete fucktard and cant argue for shit, im gonna try to do it for him. so heres my argument: Just because the Arab people in the Palestinian area did not have an entity and weren't united, it still doesn't give Jewish people the right to just go there and take over. Even if it was their land 2000 years ago. Because at the time that the idea behind the state of Israel was being thought of only about 16% of the population in the Palestinian area was jewish.

@flymirna That's similar to saying "visit the Great Plains." Just because its a name for a place doesn't mean it suddenly justifies the people living there as having their own independent history. Here's a fact for you: Palestine has never been its own country. It would have been if the arabs hadn't attacked back in 1948, but the point is the same. It was an artificially created and imagined country and so were the people. So there, dumb Palestinian supporter. Your people are an invention.

@flymirna All I said in the first place is that it wasn't a country just because its name was on the map, and as much as you hate it, IT'S A FUCKING FACT YOU DUMB BITCH! How about giving me some references to, let's say, the history of the Palestinian people before the mid-20th century as their own entity? How were they organized? When was the term Palestinian, referring to a specific group as it does now, first used? Go ahead, answer these questions. I'd love to hear the answers.

@flymirna I love how you assume that I'm going to be speechless or something. I didn't deny the existence of people living in Palestine, but they sure weren't calling themselves Palestinians at that time. I never said that there is no such thing as Palestine, I know that it has (in various forms) been used to name the region for ages. Guess what though, that doesn't mean its a country! In 1936, it was part of the British Mandate of Palestine, not its own independent country.

@flymirna No shit Sherlock. It is the prejudice that I have toward retards such as yourself that can not fathom any political opinion beyond the sight of your own eyes because in doing so you would jepordize your thinking into believing something that is immoral can be the right thing to do. i.e. trying to prove the existence of Palestine because you disrespect the right but seemingly immoral regime of Israel.

Manchuria, Italian East Africa and the French posesions in China(Kwanghowan) are all from the 30's. But the globe shows the date dat the Phillipines became American commonwealth, however the date of american control is not acurate it says 1945 but Wiki says 1935. if Wiki is true its made between 1936 (Italy took over Ethiopia) and a end date only you can make up to show us a video of Europa.

This globe was made sometime between 1945, because below "The Commonwealth of Philippines," it says "US owned until 1945." That's strange though because the US obtained the Philippines in 1945, and became independent on July 4, 1946. Also, French Indochina ended in 1954. So I take it this globe was between 1945-1954 Such a cool globe though! I so wanna find an old one like this.

@flymirna As I said I do not a fuck about Palestine, they do not matter. My point is that your hatred of Israel quite clearly comes from your hatred of Jews which if not Zionist is quite clearly racist, and why do you think that Zionism is sterereotypical of Jews and Jews alone? What about exremeist muslims that have killed tens of thousands of people in the last decade?

@flymirna alright, how about actually giving me some facts? how does that sound? I think you should actually state something rather than ridicule me for actually giving out solid information. If you can't, it serves to prove that you really have no argument and your basic strategy is to just try to poke holes in mine, and you think that will somehow make you right.

@flymirna Yes is that so, well then tell me why you give a flying fuck. You are Austrialian yet you spew hate to the people of Israel. That would make you the Zionist for hating Jews. I do not care about Palestine because it is un-important to everyone apart from people in the middle east, and I prefer to focus on topics that actually matter.

@flymirna don't worry, I didn't expect you to be able to tell me anything about the history of the Palestinian people. No one else has ever been able to. It just makes me wonder how fun being delusional really is. Of all the posts you've made, only one actually had any sort of relevant material. Good for you, you can spam bullshit.

@flymirna No, this is racism: I fucking hate pakis. (I am not racist, I live in the most multi-cultural city I can imagine). And I do not care, I just do not like you and I am just trolling. If you even had half the sense that I do you would not reply to this comment, but I know you will because your a stupid bitch.

Yes, I think it was 30s or early 40s. My dad grew up in the last depression and the neighbors threw it in the trash and either he or his step dad took it out of trash and kept it and now it is mine. Glad to document history. I mean no political comments here, but I like facts and don't like history re-written.

thebugoutguy you can date your globe with this info 1936-41 - Ethiopia occupied by Italy, renamed Italian East Africa. 1937 - Burma separates from India. 1938 - Germany annexes Austria. and about Plaestine: Israel created (before 1948, maps say "Palestine"); 1938 - Bolivia loses Gran Chaco to Paraguay.

@maarte2003 we agreed that not everything that either Israel does is right, but as for who has the right to make a nation, that's up for argument. My original point was that people are interpreting the map wrong if they think the word "Palestine" actually implies a country existed there.

@flymirna yeah, because you totally came up with a reason to validate Palestine that I can argue with. It's not like the "Palestinians" chose the name of the region and then chose to name themselves after it so that it would seem like the two words had the same history, or is it?

@flymirna since you know everything, please give me a quick summary of the history of the Palestinians as their own entity rather than a part of the greater arab one, including the usage of the term Palestinian and an explanation of why they are different than the other arabs.

@flymirna it exists in two forms: as a region and as the name of an invented country. if Palestine's legitimacy is because of its existence, Israel exists too. your logic is foolish. anyway, if it's so clear, please answer my previous questions about the Palestinian people.

@flymirna Yeah, except that everything I've said is correct. Why don't you try to actually provide some sort of counter-argument rather than just telling me to think about what I've typed? I know what I've typed and it's all true.

@flymirna No, not at all. Never. Why would I troll... yes ofcourse I am. And I am assume that I have irritated you to such an amount that if you ever met me you would want to kill me? WIN FOR ME!!!!

Palestine wasn't a country. It was a British protectorate. The people there didn't think of themselves as "Palestinians" or anything special like that, all they really were were Arabs or Jews.

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