Installing a 18" fire back into an existing hearth and fire surround. All solid fuel installations must be carried out by a registered HETAS installer, or through ...
That's great thanks for the quick reply. So it's just 6-7 parts Vermiculite
and 1 part Portland (or any) cement. No water? Vermiculite seems to be sold
for garden use. It seems like I'll need quite a lot to fill the cavity
behind the fireback - way more than I could get from the bags sold in
Homebase (10L - for garden use?). Also, I see that Vermiculite expands and
contracts due to heating and cooling. Is this why it is used? If so, why
would this be good? What purpose does the cement serve? tx
Hi Noel, It would be a good idea to get a Hetas engineer/ chimney sweep in
to give you the best advise, yes it may discolour the surround, due to the
heat or the hearth may get dirty over time due to the nature of using solid
fuel but the crucial part is is the insulation designed for solid fuel or
gas only!! some times gas fires are installed in a solid fuel fire place or
they are installed from scratch for gas use only ! only a engineer on site
could give you all this information. Thanks DVD
Hi, thanks for the guide, I now have a good idea on how to fit mine, My
main concern is the existing flue and its condition. I ripped out an
existing back as it had been battered around to fit in a baxi boiler and I
will fit a stainless steel liner however am unsure if this is normal
practice? there is very little guidance online, i presume that i bring the
flu down into a register plate and it will work in the same way? as long as
there is a pull of air upwards? cant find any info on this!
Hummm, fire backs are supplied in one peice, or in sections, 99% are now in
one piece and it is up to the installer to do the cutting, now that it has
been installed the only way that you may know is when it cracks, which by
the way for all watchers, it will crack at some time but if you have cut
the brick in half then the cracking will properly only be in the lower half
as it takes the most heat. If the crack spreads from the bottom through to
the top then it has properly not been cut.
Absolutely great video - the only one I've found that comes close to
showing how this is done. We're reinstalling a cat iron victorian fireplace
into an existing chimney. We had three HETAS guys come round to look - they
preformed a smoke test, checked the flue, the top of the stack has been
rebuilt but none were familiar with installing a fireplace as all said they
only really did Wood burners these days!
Great Video. I have a sandstone fireplace with a gas fire installed. I was
thinking of having this removed and then installing a fireback so we could
have a real fire. I have been told though that this will discolour. We are
only going to light the occasional fire at the weekend. Will this happen if
a fire is properly installed. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks
Great video, It's the only one that shows you how to do the job properly! I
have a question for you if you don't mind answering? I too am in the
process of restoring my fireplace but I am using a concrete fireback, would
that also be needed to be cut in half? When I asked where I bought it from
they said no because it's heat resistant! would this be true?
yes 6 to 1 and add a little water to bind, builders merchants for
Vermiculite 100 ltr bags £20 ish it also holds the heat in the fire back
allows for expansion other wise it may crack the fire surround or push it
off the wall. The cement binds it all together otherwise it may sink or
settle at the bottom over time leaving voids at the top. ;-)
Please help, need to fit real fire cast iron fireplace, can someone tell me
step by step how to do this, I have advertised for a professional fitter on
website rated.com which sends adverts to 63 local companies, anyone wanting
the job sends in a quote and I accept the cheapest. I have NO responses so
I have to do it myself.
Hi Thanks for the comment, yes it will be the same but at garden centre
prices !! Try RGB building supplies or any builders merchant nr you, or a
stove shop will have a stock as its the same material thats used to
backfill chimney liners if they do installations. Thanks for watching
Hi, yes really, because the fire back provides protection the the builders
opening/ fire recess, and with all the components fitted it provides a
technically working appliance. in other words It will work properly, throw
out heat, not smoke, and be safe. ;-] thx DVD
PS a quick question.. I'm pretty confident I can do the work myself. My
only query is the gathering lintel - we don't seem to have one. I know to
shape the throat into the chimney, but do I need do anything to 'form' a
gathering lintel at the front face of the fire?
just a couple of question, i take it from the vid that you do not cement
the two halfs back together again,as you said, the bottom gets hotter so is
that why u do not join back together,also does the throat lintel have to
sit on top of the fireback? regards martin
@martinbramley No it is not necessary to re cement the two halts back
together as they need to move / expand independently. The throat lintel has
to fit where ever necessary to obtain the correct throat diameter. thanks
for watching.
Hi Jay,Thanks for the comment but there are to many variables to reply to
your questions. You need onsite advise, to be sure that you have a safe
installation. I hope you understand Thanks DVD
Hi there, thanks for the comment. All fire backs are heat resistant !! Its
a question of allowing for expansion where it needs it most.I would cut it
as thats how it should be done. Thx
@TheGemmalyons Hi thanks for watching, if it was into an existing fire
surround then a couple of days, if it was a whole new surround and fire
back then about a week. Thx
Hi there, Costs are very much depending on inspection, work involved, air
vent, buliding control certification, carbon monoxide alarm,materials, act.
Thanks DVD
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