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If you know anyone in Australia that is profiting from adoption you should go immediately to the police.  All adoption in Australia is done by government bodies.  There are no legal private adoptions.

I especially agree with respect to memorabilia - photos in particular - copies of photos of the family and their ancestors are not usually items of any value and copies are just as good as originals, many many copies can be made.  It's seems that children who are relinquished by their parents are also forced to be relinquished by their ancestors as well.

well put catherine because we all have our own mother and of course babies need their mothers..............there is no other person who could ever take a mothers place..........as if a baby can attach to another woman nope they dont bond with their adopters and nor did they wish to be adopted.............denying a baby and mother their need for each other is the cruelest thing anyone can do to the mother child dyad............its a sacred act to give birth there is no such thing as just a baby.......the demand for babies and adopters lobbying govts that there isnt enough babies for them is insane........no law can give anyone a baby because we are all born and we all have our own mother...........people after children because they cant have their own...........children are not commodoties we are all precious and we are all born...........depriving babies of their own mothers was detrimental to mother and child..........they formed families out of us thousands of babies were taken from their mothers in hospitals and given to couples who couldnt have their own.......i only wanted my own children.........i could never take anyone elses child from them as that is stealing..........i have seen people in america in labour wards over there take babies from their own mothers and walk out of the hospitals with them.......thats adoption.......well in my mind that is stealing and living someone elses life.........we come to life through our mother we all have our own mother..........to take a baby from their own mother is to take and live someone elses life..........i would not be an adoptive parent not for quids........it does come back on them eventually........people such as debra lee furness and hugh jackman who advocate adoption for orphans took babies from their mothers the both of them........oh but they have heaps of money.........what good is their money it cant buy fertility........no one can buy their own children...........this is children we are talking about..........i noticed a mother on that show who lost her child because of adoption........i did too but no way would i ever adopt i had my own............the idea of taking someone elses baby to make up for the loss is what caused this..........no one has the right to children all children have the right to their own mothers and families........its a human rights violation of children............good to see you have your own child catherine........

i agree catherine i want to see adoption banned because its detrimental to children..........to be cut off from their own cultures and families..........too many mothers have suicided over this i know of mothers who when their children who were stolen had their own children were not included in the grandchilds life.......so not only did we lose our children we lost our grandchildren too.........i will be blowed if my child who was adopted is going to give her adopters grandparent rights......nope they adopted her not her children that will be my grandchild as i am her mum......not the person named on the birth certificate she has naming her adopters as her mum and dad............adoption is a lie.........and i will not be party to lies.......i am my childs mother i found her at eighteen...........she wants adoption banned because she wanted to be with me..........and if she was given to me after i birthed her she would have gone home with me too.........the crime happened in the hospitals.....not giving babies to their mothers was criminal........and no one can consent to a crime taking a baby from its mother iskidnapping.......no different to taking a baby from a pram in the street.............that is stealing..........its kidnapping under the guise of adoption.....hope they ban it.........to sever a childs true name and family is wrong...so a couple can play mum and dad........my child is not an orphan i am her mother and i am alive......i found her and i love her dearly........thats a mothers love there is no other love like it........how sad the woman who took her home with her husband didnt get to carry her own baby and wouldnt have a clue what it was like to birth........she had her own mother to help her with my baby...........i had my own mother to help me with my own baby too...........i only wanted my own baby......i would never take a baby from their own mother..............they forgot the mother......these predators after kids........hang on to your kids everyone they are at it again...........baby stealers..........

This is such a good analogy.  

+Natural Mother Before you get stuck into someone actually read their comment & you will see that , in this case, we agree that the system sucks. I was just correcting a term & there was not 1 thing negative about it. The birth parents are the biological parents & no one else can ever take that privilege from them. I used to use the term natural; parents myself many moons ago & social workers, adoptive, foster parents etc etc all corrected me. Birth parents are also natural parents but so are foster &adoptive parents. Only the birth parent is the biological parent too though. FYI: I know both side of the fence & have had experiences  (not professionally) in adoption, fostering, babies being taken from birth  parents my whole life , the past 20 years pretty full on.  So no, I don't have a fair bit of reading to do, I have likely read more than most & have definitely experienced 1st hand  all scenarios many, many times over. Every case is different & no one who truly knows all sides could ever label ever foster situation, adoption situation, children relinquishment situation the same way. The only thing they have in common is that tragedy is involved...but that takes different forms.

+Panda Me And who are you to say the 'correct' term is biological parents, not natural parents? People who have lost a child to adoption may call themselves a natural or biological parent - it is up to them and no-one else as to what they call themselves. Many 'anti-adoption' people (as you call them) also identify the issues inherent in any adoption, not just local or forced. I guess you have a fair bit of reading to do to get a better understanding of the issues natural mothers and adoptee's face regardless of the background of their situation.

The correct term is not natural parents but 'biological parents'. There also has to be a distinction made between local ( Aus based) & international adoption as they are chalk & cheese. My son was abandoned & there is no way that he can meet his biological parents unless a minor miracle happens.There are pros & cons for adoption at both local & international level. Most anti adoption people talk of local adoption & forced adoption. Unfortunately , society sucks, children are abandoned or orphaned for a variety of reasons that are not their fault & they deserve a family regardless what the negative nellies say . It HAS to be all about the children & each case HAS to be evaluated on it's own merit.

Under Ethiopian adoption law, the adoptive family takes precedence but does not extinguish the legal ties to the birth family.  I think we should investigate this as an option in Australia.

maternal and child health come to mind kay because there has to be a mother......there cant be just a baby..........all adopters in australia knew they had mothers they knew our names and everything about us but they never told our children........they didnt want our children to be with us and their siblings birthed after......adopters are the problem.........