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+packr72 I couldn't agree more!

+corebass420 Thank you for a cogent comment; couldn't agree more!

+TheCherry1994 Da die meisten dieser Diskussionen sind für Englisch sprechende Mitarbeiter. Ich bin damit einverstanden, es wäre toll, wenn sie für andere Nationalitäten vorgenommen wurden.

+pamela mccoll Every society in the history of mankind has used mind altering drugs. The government owns neither your body nor your mind.

+Prussia - I bet you have no friends with such a closed mind.

+kushdaddy144 Oh sorry, I don't need narcotics to enjoy life. I'm doing just fine thank you.

+Prussia - I guess your life is pretty dull then. 

+kushdaddy144 I don't.

+Prussia - did you not watch the video at all? Drug use was perfectly fine until a bunch of racist ass white people didn't like seeing others races enjoying drugs so they banned them . Drugs have always been apart of human culture . It wasn't until the 20th century that they became illegal . Yldo you drink alcohol? If you do then you yourself are a hypocrite

+TestSubjectN1 I know it doesn't always work, it just makes me sad when some people receive smaller/no punishments for the same crimes as others just because of their personal situation.

+TestSubjectN1 So you're suggesting, we should punish normal people for things only a fraction of the population does?

+follker I simply believe that people who do bad things to themselves should not get help because they themselves are the cause of the problem. My stance is the same on that as it is with kids blowing their hands off with fireworks, they should not be given free aid, they should face the consequences of their actions. Want to do drugs? Sure, just don't leech of off the taxpayer in funding your healthcare and waste people's time with your stupid addiction. I wouldn't even care if they killed themselves, it's their own damn fault.

+Prussia - Your mistake is in believing drug addiction is a moral failure deserving of some kind of punishment. Religion is the best arena for morality and judgements not law making. The government is supposed to find ways to decrease harm or deter. We are failing to deter and we certainly are not decreasing harm. Your way has been tried and it is failing spectacularly. With only a small change of perspective, we can and should refocus our efforts toward treatment and harm reduction, rather than punishment and retribution, if for no other reason than it will work better.

+follker Of course I notice it, I don't want breakers of the law to be rewarded instead of punished, you'd rather have drug abusing scum been given help instead of paying for their failure and generally being a waste of time?

Drug abuse in all its forms is bad. The question the speaker raised was how to deal with drug addiction. Alcohol is a drug abused often, and we do not criminalize it, we treat it. The idea that the BEST way to deal with drug abuse is criminalization and incarceration is not supported by any contemporary science nor half a century of experience. People unable to think through the propaganda and discern the truth for them selves are quickly becoming the minority. Can't you just FEEL the momentum?

+TestSubjectN1 What? Paranoia? Avoiding medication? I never avoid medication, there is a diffirence between refusing to use it, and not needing it. Maybe I'm just Lucky but I never had a disease more dangerous than a small flu. I am not religious, I'm Agnostic. Fascist, Authoritarian, Totalitarian, whatever you want to call me go ahead. You're being just as much of a bigot as I am, if that's what you consider me to be. Also I don't drink alcohol and only rarely coffee and, yes this is a stereotype argument, but I can also do years without it. I just consider drugs to be much, MUCH worse than alcohol or cafeïne. I'll probably have a hard time arguing against your idealistic left-wing liberal mind. But drugs are just a part of what is in my opinion a gradual degradation of society. People just use them to hide from the real world, to shy away from responsibility, this is not the fault of the world. As social pressure and the necessity of hard work have existed for a long time, it's due to people getting more incompetent. I don't like what society is becoming. I perfectly realize that there are plenty of stupid and ignorant people around and that I might just come off as the typical American Protestant who wants to give you their moralist view on things. Well, unfortunately for you, I'm not American, I'm not Protestant, and I'm not a moralist, but that doesn't mean I don't respect moral values. Just because something has ''no impact'' on my life means we should tolerate it? Should we tolerate the people who spray their graffiti on 19th century neo-classical buildings because we can just ignore it? Should we really allow people to gradually destroy civilization because in the short term it doesn't affect us? I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this Gangsta nigga rap generation we got here. And it may be shocking to hear for you but I'm not older than 30. I guess I was just raised in a traditional environment.

+Nikki Russell 0

How many prescriptions are in your medine cabinet??

+Prussia - Actually, it is YOU that is 'scum' if ever there was a single celled organism as stupid as you, but i doubt that.YOU are the arrogant, fascist and inhuman cunt here.YOU are the ignorant, selfish and inhuman person making the most inane comments here.YOU do not rank as scum, you are more like a inorganic thing, like gravel: an irritant, a thing of no intelligence at all, and of limited use to anyone.You attempt to define drug users as those who fall outside the usage of drugs that you accept: you do not mind people abusing alcohol, caffeine, and other substances, all of which bring great harm globally, no YOU attack the one drug that can save many people from the guaranteed and dark fate of those 'chosen' druggies.In other words, a hypocrite at very least, at worst a spokesman for evil incarnate.I RECOMMEND ALL VIEWERS REPORT THESE INDUSTRY SPOKESMEN AND POLITICAL MISCREANTS.

+TestSubjectN1 I think I've made my stance clear enough, sorry but you're not getting my compassion on this. 

+TestSubjectN1 Oh, now it's immature to call scum ''scum''. If I find them scum, then I find them scum. Deal with it. Don't give me that ''they don't have control over it'' bullshit, how can you even pity these criminals. 

+TestSubjectN1 Ignorant? Ignorant of what? You don't have a solution to the problem do you? And I'm not going to question my ''beliefs'' about this, calling other people's opinion ignorant is really low. Left-wing Liberals... 

+TestSubjectN1 What emotions, I think you're not getting the bigger picture, do you even see this as a problem? And shut up about junkies being ''victims'', what, did some other-wordly power force them to use drugs? They chose to use drugs, and if they die because of that they deserve it. By the way, blind faith? I'm not even religious, does respecting traditional morals mean you're religious now?

+TestSubjectN1 Also: Part of the problem is that telling people the dangers of drugs doesn't help, they do it anyway. We can't really do anything, I don't like what the modern world is becoming, individualism could be the least of our worries... I understand how elderly people would worry about the future of our countries with the current youth leading it. What could possibly go wrong with such an over-tolerant drug friendly generation obsessed with social media? 

+TestSubjectN1 I don't care, I know what a rhetorical question is thank you, I'm just telling him not to assume things. 

+Cruisen Cruiser's No I don't drink in recreation, thanks for the assumption. And what's wrong with judging people? Junks are scum. 

+Prussia - do you drink in recreation, its the exact same thing, even worse for you than many of the illicit drugs today. you are ignorant and refuse to listen and therefore refuse to learn the truth about drugs. you are a judgmental piece of garbage.

+TestSubjectN1 The reason for the war on drugs is not that the drugs are bad quality, the reason is that people are using drugs at all, ''healthy'' or not. I hope you're not going to deny that people who're addicted to meth don't look so well after a couple of years.

@prussia You are ignorant, people who use drugs will choose to use them illegal or not as they are now. The use of drugs can be handled better then spending 2billion dollars a year just in NYC on the war on drugs and still have people doing them.

+TestSubjectN1 Oh, i didnt mean paid to write the rubbish he goes on and on with, but maybe a sycophantic relationship of some sort?  Damned if i can figure out why anyone over 12 with half a brain would spout that dated hooie.

+TestSubjectN1  Prussia is obviously a stooge, a industry troll, inevitably, even if same does it for money, a moron.

+Prussia -  Again and again you are proven wrong but you persist with your programmed raving, very sad, i imagine otherwise you are 'intelligent'.What i cannot understand is how your mind makes these connections, results in you making such incredibly silly statements.The No.1 party drug is ALCOHOL and it does massive damage, immediate, short term, and long term, very high impact.Take the hard drugs out of the equation a moment and an alternative, long suppressed does exist, MJ.  Focus on that a moment...Now you have been programmed to believe pot is bad, and i am quite sure it is for some people, just as for some people alcohol is so devastating.  But it has far more to do with environment than the substance, i bet a million on that alone.In fact, even when smoked, which is the worst way to use that shit, even if smoked the anti cancer compounds in pot make it a very safe alternative, and, please note: MJ has no mid or long term problems, causes no permanent illness or debilitation, much as you would like to believe.  No liver cancer, very few auto accidents, really the only problem is occaisionally a pot head will fall out of his or her chair asleep, and bruise elbow and ego.I have been in a position for over 35 years which has allowed me to observe the effects of a number of drugs upon a range of people. Alcoholics are polarized: either violent crazy, or sheepish submissive.  Pot heads are usually detached, less energetic, aware but cerebrally 'distant'. Heroin seems to produce a false sense of god hood, they live, in their minds, above all. Cocaine if pure seems to do the pilots i have known little harm, but street coke and derivatives in the USA are another, terrifying prospect and combine the worst elements of the hardest drugs, perhaps deliberately so. Drugs have long been used, historically for repression, so by making the market 'black' you gain much and lose little.  In fact, with such laws as the US promotes and abuses today (CIA linked to drug cartels and trafficking) you see a savage rise in the use of the worst drugs, whilst heavy repression of the safer drugs in increasing.  Hm!!This includes safer (than ICE) alcohol, which is given a financial barrier, you need money to be a drunk, although there are low cost alternatives, like industrial and other spirits. [explain]The population is, generally speaking, drugged on something, from sugar to tobacco to caffeine, alcohol, volatile organic compounds, (paint related chemicals and other outgassing) -the question is, are we minimising harm?Are we limiting the potential for the growth of a black market?  Are we providing adequate and appropriate education, and most importantly teaching children and YA's to develop strong peer bonds, be non discriminatory, to develop humanistic approaches to helping our fellow man?  NO, NO, NO, no no no.[We can see this from your attitude and biased antagonistic beliefs].The effect of the drug laws is counterproductive, expensive, inhuman, dangerous, that is all established FACT and indisputable. The situation is deliberately out of control, as it is meant to be: no government would enact such laws, see the 'rotten fruit', and retain them without a covert reason, that is basic logic supported by hard facts. Hence the breakaway nations and states that say "fuck the USA and it's corruption, fuck theiur hypocrisy of being 'free and just' when they are slaves and immoral", -and the immediate result, (before the CIA etc can regroup and begin undermining all over again), the immediate result is amazing, wonderful, liberating and justice in action. The Joe and Jo humans are freed from one, then more and more  shackles... and YOU are the member of the clique that make the shackles, sell the lies!It is misguided and foolish people that alike you energizes the lowest end of the debate: here where ignorance so often reigns. (notably stained with the info spectrum repeated ad infinitum) -elite run media in league with government to control populace and inject propaganda into their minds).  Phooie, fuck you all, crimminals far above others due to your false benevolence, your willing involment in a great injustice and fraud.So, the 'problem' in the Netherlands isnt one of abuse by locals etc, although certain issues do exist, these are normal for any huge industrialllized connurbation or state.  The 'problem' is that the CIA and corrupt US elements, backed by you, are chagrined that their lies are exposed, their fraud and criminality plain to every open eye.

+plecto1234 The problem I have with this is that drugs have become a socially accepted thing, especially with young people, Of course Nadelmann here and most other people don't use drugs like meth, xtc or cocaïne, but the fact that young people find it to be normal to use drugs when going to a party to me is a very bad development. And there seems to be no real solution at the moment, hence it's only logical that people want to prevent the production and sale of drugs in the first place, so that there is no risk of people using them.

Except that legalization does not necessarily increase drug use. A common misconception is that people that are pro legalization is pro-drugs, like it's good for us, but that's not the case at all. Even if legalization were to increase consumption by a little bit, the overall social health benefit from doing so would trump an increase in consumption any day of the week.

+TestSubjectN1 "kids that start drinking alcohol early in life, warp their minds and bodies very significantly"  Well said!This is a VERY important point... these damaged children and teenagers then become adult members of society, possibly alcoholics, and passing judgement against a far less harmful drug, condemning their children if they choose MJ over booze, and supporting draconian anti drug laws, hypocrites as their drug causes FAR more harm.This then makes them victims and abusers and pawns of a systemic abuse of the people by a corrupted political system and elite malfeasance.ERM indeed eh!

Also://thedea.org/prohibhistory.html"...at least a century ago to ban cigarettes. Claims of smoking's dangers sound eerily familiar today: Smoking causes (it was said) immorality, violence, insanity and so forth."Again, lies and misconceptions to base law upon, in this instance, failing.Sadly, if the reverse had been the case, cigarettes illegal and MJ legal, there MAY not have been so much suffering from lung cancer * and a massive reduction to the cost of crime 'prevention'.Drug 'abuse' is a SOCIAL problem, as we who are not sheeple know all too well.  These laws are designed to keep some people wealthy and powerful, (hundreds) and deny basic human rights, inevitably wealth and power from a far larger group of people (millions). *** //www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/herbsvitaminsandminerals/marijuana** //www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php//druglawreform.info/es/informacion-por-pais/item/4753-estudio-de-la-organizacion-de-estados-americanos-oea-//www.ntn24.com/noticia/senado-de-colombia-aprueba-en-primer-debate-proyecto-que-permitiria-el-uso-de-la-marihuana-medicinal-31172Further:The results of alcohol prohibition have become the stuff of legend and popular films: Powerful criminal organizations sprang up, arrested offenders clogged the system and corruption of the police and courts became rampant as a large portion of the population simply ignored the laws.There is some evidence that during prohibition, the average age of onset of alcohol use went down significantly, possibly because since alcohol sale was illegal in the first place, age restrictions on sales no longer applied.NOTE:(A curious parallel can be seen today; young people take up using marijuana in greater percentages and at a younger age in the US than they do in the Netherlands, where marijuana is effectively legal but regulated.)

+TestSubjectN1 1937: Congress passed the Marijuana Tax Act. Presented as a $1 nuisance tax on the distribution of marijuana, this act required anyone distributing the drug to maintain and submit a detailed account of his or her transactions, including inspections, affidavits, and private information regarding the parties involved.This law, however, was something of a "Catch-22", as obtaining a tax stamp required individuals to first present their goods, which was an action tantamount to confession.>This act passed by Congress on the< >basis of testimony & public perception< >that marijuana caused insanity,< >criminality, and death.< Laws based upon LIES in other words...

+Prussia - Good job. Arbitrarily aggressive people like him aren't good to keep listening to as all they are going to talk about is how stupid you are and how right they are.

+Prussia - No, i offered what it gives so freely to others, without a thought or care.  You ARE ignorant, that is perfectly obvious.  It is NOT "my opinion" rather it is also a FACT that the laws do more harm than good etc.Who said i don't see problems?  What i do not see is the problem as you see it, which is wrongful, harmful, based on propaganda, based on lies.So, who's the fool?  You.  You deliberately cause suffering because of your beligerance and hypocrisy.If you believed what you said about drugs, then you should never use them again YOURSELF: no more pain killers at the dentist, no more wine with your meal.No more coffee, sugar, no more relief.  What a hypocrite.

+Mr Cabot This is actually kind of funny to me, you wished him death and called me ignorant because of a diffirent opinion which is quite cowardly. Anyway, you don't see a problem in drug use, which is where our opinions differ, but you don't seem to get that. You're incapable of understanding that we can disagree and not be ''ignorant'' or whatever, I will block you too. 

+MerrCA If you tax them heavily, the criminal market will continue to sell them because people don't want to buy at such high prices. 

+Mr Cabot It is a fact, I've seen it myself... But you'll just deny it. 

+Mr Cabot Whatever dude, have fun wishing death on another person because their opinion is different. Blocked.

+MerrCA  No, you cannot dodge that so easily... YOU are quite happy to condemn, murder, torture and cause REAL life, EVERY DAY suffering, right here and now, MILLIONS OF VICTIMS OF YOUR STUPID LAWS for the last 80 years... but you say I should not, even in debate?  Not even to a criminal parasite, a hypocrite, a monster?If i beat you to death with your own severed arm i would be a hero to the oppressed... the people you make suffer and torture with your criminally biased laws.But, thanks for really proving my point.IN YOUR OWN WORDS!!:"... If you are poor, the last thing you should be worrying about is pot or any drug. And if you do whilst also having children, then you don't deserve to be a parent and I am sorry for your kids. (WHAT A PIOUS ARROGANT COMMENT)... If he is poor and practically can't afford to live, he doesn't need a beer. He needs a place to live, food, water, and a job. That "young musician" who is barely making it doesn't fucking need pot. (WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE ANOTHER MANS NEEDS) This world is a tough place, (IT IS NOW, THANKS TO CORRUPTION AND IDIOTIC LAWS...)  and the rich aren't going anywhere. Rich people being more privileged than the poor isn't inherently a bad thing, it is just a fact of life. (???) If that poor musician wants his pot after still struggling to stay afloat, he has to work for it."Thank you your honor, no further comment... lolol.

+Mr Cabot I hope that the last few paragraphs of your comment were a joke, because only an idiot would wish death on another or de-humanize them over having a different opinion. By the way, no matter what, rich people are going to have an easier time buying things than poor people. That's kind of the point. If you are poor, the last thing you should be worrying about is pot or any drug. And if you do whilst also having children, then you don't deserve to be a parent and I am sorry for your kids. I don't like world elite or the establishment any more than you do, but it is those same scenarios happening over and over that will bring change. If he is poor and practically can't afford to live, he doesn't need a beer. He needs a place to live, food, water, and a job. That "young musician" who is barely making it doesn't fucking need pot. This world is a tough place, and the rich aren't going anywhere. Rich people being more privileged than the poor isn't inherently a bad thing, it is just a fact of life. If that poor musician wants his pot after still struggling to stay afloat, he has to work for it.

+MerrCA I agree to a point, but why tax them "heavily" as you say?  Isn't that just subsidizing something else?  Our taxes are abused and misspent by governments globally, taxes raised unfairly. Taxation could be used for rehabilitation but then you have the problems associated with ripping off health care funds, by white collars, doctors and specillists.  Besides, do road taxes get spent on roads?  No, they help fund insanity like the war on terror/drugs/humans...  No!You place the usual tax on it, same as wine, ciggarettes, sugar and coffee.Imagine if you announced that you were intending to "heavily" tax coffee?  Or pharmaceutical drugs, so an aspirin costs $5.00 a tablet?!  Or a can of beer $20.00??Your idea is evil: repressive taxation my man, the wealthy can afford a ton of drugs or wine, aspirin or whatever, tax doesnt bother them... but that young musician living in some crap condo and no car, heavy tax on his weed or whatever is going to hit HARD.So, what you are saying is brutalize the lives of the poor so that every waking moment is hell.  They wake up in a dump, have little to eat, no job, nothing to do, no library, no open public education programs, and some shit hole city to drag his bones through, like Miami.Meanwhile, your wealthy guy passes him by in a gold plated 6 wheel hummer that looks like it runs on steam there is that much smoke coming out of it.  He got a tax break on that tank, paid nothing for it really, while the poor guy once worked for GM making EV1's and when he lost that job, he lost his wife, kids, home and all his self respect.YOU want to punish him for being a VICTIM of the elite, moving manufacturing to India or China, killing middle America for profit.  You want to make his life harsher, no relief, cannot even afford a beer.You consider yourself human, you are wrong.You are sub-human: cruel, stupid and brainwashed.  It sickens me to think people so beligerant and uncaring exist.  I hope, earnestly, that you contract inoperable cancers and realize the massive harm you have done, the tragedy you perpetuate.

+Prussia - But why is it necessary to prohibit them, so long as you make laws on public use? They should be legal, but taxed heavily and regulated just as heavily.

+Prussia - Yes, that is correct.  You can choose whatever term you like, but the simple fact is, what you are saying IS stupid, ignorant, brainwashed.Hm, "aware of the fact..." uh, no, because it is NOT a fact.What IS fact is that particular people ARE prone to USING a MULTITUDE of drugs, some more 'harmful' than others.Harmful means... (spelling it out because you are so unbelievably [!] stupid) -to THAT person, -at THAT time, -in THAT place, -with THOSE people, -on THAT diet...  and so on.What you are (supposedly) completely ignorant of is the FACT that the CIA and other US government agencies exert great influence, and work energetically deep in the shadows to create the PRECISE interpretation of the 'drug problem' that you communicate so VERY accurately.The rubbish you spout is a concoction of lies repeated over the last 80 odd years, i was there, i know this.  Tons, literally TONS of evidence obliterates your rantings!!One might even question where you get this bullshit 'info' and who you are really working so assiduously for...I have read every word you've written here, and it is IDENTICAL to the mainstream, FALSE message put out by said agencies... McMedia etc...Lets see if you have a grain of intelligence left, or whether you're another drone.Q: Do you have ANY idea WHY people use drugs, and i mean, globally, run through a list of cultures and comment on each.  You cant, can you!Next...Hypothetical of course:Q:  TELL US WHY A GOVERNMENT OR CLIQUE WOULD WANT ALL DRUGS BANNED?Go on, hypothetical and all, right, so answer that oh great wise one...BTW, let me make this quite clear for you, I dont promote drug use, I abhor the effect alcohol, sugar, caffeine, heroin, LSD, opoids, amphetamines, cocaine and it's derivatives... EXCEPT under a tight criteria.Bubby, I  U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D- the 'drug problem', something you are obviously incapable of doing, and I know where it originated from.Your problem is that you havent bothered to check, even once, the information you crap on about.  If you had, i would give you a tiny bit of respect, i would open that door, but you have NOT made one sane and well researched comment, not one!!

+Mr Cabot You're calling me stupid... You're aware of the fact that educating people about drugs doesn't help? Not at all, you must have absolutely no self-respect at all if you let yourself degrade to a low-level drug addict who'd do anything for a little bit of meth or heroin or whatever. What's your solution to the problem? Do you have a better suggestion?

+Prussia - Bro, you do not even rate as sheeple, you are a GOAT.What you are writing IS the EXACT propaganda people here are talking about!!  FFS man, wake up and cut the crap, this is serious, people are more damaged by the LAW than the drugs, generally speaking!Your examples are NOT examples of the effect of drugs on people, your problems are caused by poor education, poverty, lack of employment, lack of meaning in life, political repression, systemic societal flaws, and so on.  REAL drug problems are relatively rare, in that once again the LAW is the problem, if these people who were addicted had treatment options, and more, or had access to clean drugs, but no, instead BILLIONS are wasted fighting a war that can NEVER be won!  So, why would they want that?  A war without end?  Alike the war on terrorism, oui??What is the connection?If you had HALF, nay a QUARTER of a brain you could answer that in part!!Lol, go on, make another inane comment... you are better than most stand up comedians, i mean you are a sour, black joke, standing there, alone, with your mouth shut and your hands tied.

+TestSubjectN1 NB: propaganda started in the mid 1920's as a way to abuse (legally) black, or rather African Americans.  Otherwise, great comment, shows that you have done thorough research, are not gobbing down buckets of lies like most of the sheeple.

+Prince Prussia What a load of crap

+Kevin Karl If you feel like a cog in a machine you failed to do what you wanted to do, but that's your own fault, you might just not be ambitious enough, if you get a job because you'll be unemployed otherwise you might as well stay unemployed, I see the economical reason for not being able to do what you want but that wasn't Always the case, whereas this problem is much older than the current economic situation. 

+Mr Cabot Seems to me you're addicted to MJ yourself, or at least very fond of it. There's a lot of illegal trade involved there too by the way and don't think for a second that that doesn't happen in the Netherlands, it's becoming a larger and larger problem. You're effectively promoting drug use, I had at least hoped that we could all agree that that's a bad thing. 

+Prince Prussia Wrong, makes it HARDER for the kids to get because the person selling the shit has a vested interest in maintaining the LAW and the black market does not, idiot!Often it is the kids selling black market stuff as they are harder to prosecute!Name calling... the idiot thing, you know what they say; if the hat fits.  Everything you write is manure; industry propaganda; an industry of corruption, draconian and illegal laws, political and corporate malfeasance!You are effectively PROMOTING harm to citizens; MJ can replace or displace opoid drugs, can be used to detox from hard drugs, is less addictive than sugar, less addictive than alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, speed, ice, but YOU want to keep it illegal eh?Those laws you so stupidly defend are the problem; out of date, denying human rights, imposing a harmful system of illegal trafficking, police collusion, vast sums of money going to criminals.MJ is an amazing substance and one day you WILL need it, or maybe not, cos if you do not use it it may cost you allot of  pain and suffering lolol... what a goose.What an utter bastard you are -wishing suffering on millions of people and supporting a deadly political adjenda.I will pray you soon develop cancers and NEED MJ lol...

+Kentasokapellos So your solution is legalization, you're right about those kids, but it will make access easier, in a perfect world there wouldn't be any of these drugs. That's what the war on drugs tries to do. 

+Mr Cabot Just the fact that you believe that shows that you're a generalising idiot.  

+Kentasokapellos Exactly, proven over and over, time and time again.  The only people supporting the war on drugs are criminals, regardless of their collar, and simpletons who are thoroughly brainwashed!

You don't get it do you? The only country in the world that all its drug addicts are over the age of 30 and the number hasn't increased in many years is the netherlands where every drug is legal. The problem with "heavyweight" drugs (e.g. heroin) is that when sold illegally they have been cut to something like 5% heroin, and the rest is (if you're lucky) flour or backing soda and dangerous chemicals. Why do pop-stars rarely die from overdoses? Because they get clean stuff (If you don't believe take a look at the rolling stones, especially keith richards). Also by legalizing them you remove the "excitement" factor ( "This is totally illegal, let's do it so we'll look cool"), which is a cause for many kids going into drug abuse. By making them legal and safe to purchase and by properly educating the public on their dangers, everyone is going to be able to get them, few are going to do so, and those few that do are going to, will be safe from e.g. battery fluid or other toxic shit inside it.In economic theory if there is a large demand for something but no or limited(or controlled) supply a paralel (aka black) market is going to exist eventually. By reducing the quantity of drugs demanded, you will inadvertently reduce the quantity supplied. Also black markets will be dealt a serious, non-violent blow and tax money are going to be earned and part of them can go into a drug-awareness campaign. By making them legal you create a successful (proven in many countries) cycle in which the drugs themselves reduce their appeal. Going back to your point, your example (deadly chemicals in foods), is invalid since there is no demand for them. On the contrary people seek out drugs for various reasons. Heroin, in really small doses, is sometimes used as a sedative in surgeries. Weed has been proven as a very successful drug that boosts the immune system of seriously ill people and has proven to be a great painkiller for people with chronic diseases. Also weed has been proven effective as an alternative drug for people with insomnia, epilepsy and other stuff. Using a drug, any drug, doesn't kill you. What kills you is abusing said drug and/or the toxic stuff in its "cheap form". Legalizing drugs in a proper manner will benefit any country, especially a rich (not exactly but anyways) country like the U.S.A. that has the resources to make an effective and proper campaign.  People want to try drugs just to try them usually because they have insufficient knowledge about them. Give them the knowledge and the freedom of choice and they will choose wisely : self-preservation. Prohibiting something when proven that you shouldn't is treating the average person like a complete idiot who doesn't know what is the right choice and some people out of spite will divert from the path that has been set for them. Giving them the freedom removes that.Also if some people are dumb enough to go abuse drugs in spite of knowing the dangers are probably not going to live long enough to have kids and that's how natural selection occurs. Of course laws about unfit parents should become more strict and checks more scrutinizing should legalization come to pass. The proper way to remove something from a society is not to ban it, but rather to educate the society properly so none wants it and thus none sees any benefit in producing it. Drug traffickers produce and sell drugs because there is a lot of profit to be made. 1st step : Reduce the profit so less people are drawn into production. 2nd step : Reduce the demand so there is no motive in producing them in the first place. If people want to do drugs they will find a way to. Same thing happened during the prohibition era. If there are no drugs to be wanted or found in the first place everyone will soon forget about them. (Also weed is a separate category for obvious reasons)

+Jemalacane0''intelligent''

Unfortunately for you, some intelligent and creative people have done drugs.

+Kevin Karl To me it's more of a moral standpoint than anything else, like, divorcing your husband isn't illegal, but it does hurt a lot of people, especially if you have children, but that's already become the norm... I just don't want to see drugs becoming that as well, if someone is extremely addicted to drugs like meth, that does hurt their family and (former) friends a lot, it's like that person you knew before ceased to exist. 

 +Prince Prussia"Prohibiting them allows you to punish people who sell and use them, right now in my country (Netherlands) we got laws that prohibit sales but not use... Guess how that turned out"Uuhh..in the U.S. there are laws prohibiting both sales AND use...guess how that turned out.You have completely missed the logic underlying the anti-drug war position.  Who are YOU to punish anyone for doing something that has NO IMPACT on your life?? Marijuana is actually Schedule 1 which means "no therapeutic or medical benefits".  A total JOKE given the facts. You did touch on the main concern which is "why do people try drugs to begin with?".  The answer is our competitive, winner take all social order that actually REWARDS narcissism and the hoarding of wealth and resources.  It also suppresses technological advancement and efficiency, thereby perpetuating a mindset that scarcity and human servitude are aspects of human culture we just can't get away from. Drugs are a choice for many people who are "attempting" to alleviate the sheer stress of trying to compete/survive while over a billion people are literally starving.  Even for those lucky enough to have jobs and a little comfort/stability...drugs are a choice because competing for $$ every day is most often a tiring, uninspiring and unfulfilling life.  Most working humans serve as mere cogs in a wheel...making "human potential" the most squandered resource on the planet.  This is EXACTLY how the ownership class wants it.  Same 'ole game of rich vs. poor...just newer methods.   A FANTASTIC movie that addresses the psychological impacts of our social order - and the resulting crimes and drug addictions world wide - is called "Zeitgeist - Moving Forward".  We see a lot of finger pointing today, many people seem to know something is wrong but they don't know WHY or WHAT to do about it.  This movie goes there, enjoy.

+Prince PrussiaWell nice try, but you are wrong again.  And you havent answered the questions; what are the gateway substances for other things, other abuses? What is the gateway drug for glue or gasoline sniffing?Explain how some women are addicted to nail polish; what was the gateway substance for that?As far as your concept of 'addiction' is concerned, MJ is not addictive; excepting socially and emotionally; that means if you change the groups you mix with or sort out your 3 egos, you havent any physical addiction to deal with.Heroin is addictive, as is ice, cocaine, alcohol, tobacco, sugar, caffeine... REAL addictive, not propaganda addictive!As i said, and as you ignorantly persistantly ignore, is the simple fact MJ is used to DETOX from TRULY ADDICTIVE drugs.I wont reply further until you stop wasting peoples time, and do some research.  Anymore bullshit and i'll flag it as spam.

+Mr Cabot What I meant with gateway drug is that when, for example, a teenager tries MJ for whatever reason, gets it from a friend. And he/she likes it, gets addicted, depending on the country you'd have to get it from illegal dealers or a coffee shop but either way you're probably going to get into contact with people who also sell other drugs, like, for example, cocaïne or methamphetamine. You'd try this out too and you get addicted, that's what I meant with gateway drug. 

+Prince PrussiaI appreciate a good debate, but this is becoming a little tiresome, you really have to update your info, and find some fresh sources at the same time.'Gateway drug' is an interesting concept; how can you single out MJ? Also, tell me how is it that a 'clean' person might use it for the first time, what was the 'gateway' substance, mothers milk?It's a silly argument, a chicken and egg argument, so it's invalid.If you do want to pursue that idea, consider 'outgassing' and its effects on the human brain.  Subtle, varied, and dependant upon exposure time, strength (age of material) and concentration in the air.What is the 'gateway drug' for cocaine?  For ice?  For amphetamines?The 'gateway' has nothing to do with any drug, it is an EMOTIONAL gateway, a void in ones egos, a bare patch of soul worn and abraded, a sore spot...One damned good reason i have good olfactory senses, and a clear head is i have been taught to avoid such fumes.Think about that a little, then reply.

+Mr Cabot Yes, you're right, most medicine do have rather bad side effects (which is why I try to limit use) and MJ isn't really dangerous on it's own, the thing is, it functions like a gateway to other drugs. Since many people who sell that also sell cocaïne and the likes, sure I might be living in the past, from before the ''hippie age'' but just because some social norms are old doesn't mean they're bad. And you know my opinion by know.  

+Prince Prussia I don't know you, and in fact, i have nothing against you personally, but seriously, some of the things you say are plain wrong, just wrong.For one, we are an ancient animal, we have evolved on this planet millions of years.  we have environmental hazards, which in small amounts can be tolerated.Your urban environment is full of toxic hazards which cause cancer, respiratory illness, and heart disease.  To protect commerce, they needed a 'fall guy' and as MJ became more acceptable on one front, so now they shift to another paradigm of interferance and harassment, the one you are mooting.There are statistically about the same number of users today, and they are not 'stoners' or any other derogatory label you and your ilk apply.You also seem incapable of understanding that you are protecting criminals, corruption and the abuse of pharmaceutical drugs; some of which are efficacious in the short term but deadly in the longer term.MJ is not like that, it can be used from childhood (12) to death and has little to no side effects or serious inherant degenerative diseases associated with it.No more than say living on the fringe of a large city with occaisional excursions into slightly more, commonly polluted regions (like Sault Saint Marie).So  PLEASE dtop talking out of your bum and become a little more aware of advances in our understanding, developments post 1960.You're living in the past, talkin shit... spouting out of date propaganda.

+Erich Hsu It's definitely a very difficult situation, I and many people who are against drug use don't want it to become socially accepted like smoking has, I don't want to live in a society like that, so what can we do? War on drugs doesn't work that's clear, simply outlawing doesn't either, legalizing with high taxes will probably result in smuggling, and legalizing with low taxes will increase use. I know you can't do anything about the supply, I can perfectly understand why someone in Colombia would become a drugstrader out of poverty, and that they might even get rich because of it, and that people will Always use these opportunities. What I do NOT understand is why people use it, people use experimentation as an excuse, or rather a reason, for getting addicted, but everything about these drugs is all over the internet, wanting to know what happens if you use them isn't a valid argument. Then there's the addicted group, which you can only rarely do something about, but what I believe we should prevent is more and more otherwise good people using drugs, especially meth, cocaïne, more of the hard drugs. But again, what can you do? Can't do anything about supply, you can maybe limit it's growth but that's it, the demand must fall, but how? What are we going to do huh? Making it illegal does, even though it's been kind of inefficient, prevent it from becoming socially acceptable. 

+Prince Prussia you can't reduce drug use..this is a simple supply and demand thing..we obviously can't or won't do anything to the supplyand the demand is not going to significantly change barring finding newer safer better drugs.. (which is why pot in particular is so popular and has gained so much traction)

+Mr Cabot As said in the video that WILL increase drug use, what are you going to do? That's my entire point, how are you going to reduce drug use? 

Solutions?  Nothing, decriminalize all drugs, redirect the funds wasted on the stupid WOD into rehab, social welfare, pensions and local infrastructure, things like that.All drugs available from the pharmacy, clean, regulated, dosed, and you have your doctor monitoring it.Then there are the billions puring into the black market YOU are protecting, and that is streaming into the community and as taxes to government etc... idiot!

+Prince Prussia you attribute this to marijuana??How young, more to the point, how ignorant are you?Degeneracy did not begin with hippies, lol, far from it.What you are referring to is the media image, the propaganda, the hype.This false and misleading image has nothing to do with medical marijuana, or the common experience with the stuff.Masses of evidence exists, going back to the mid 1880's, British held India, and they thought to condemn the use of hashish.They found it was all hype and hate speech, much as you are doing, ignorant, and far from reality.The average pot smoker or user may have a smidge, in the evening, after work, and irregularly.The medical MJ user will consume it as and as often as prescribed.And the 'pot head' of your delusions, well didnt Cheech and Chong and a billion other actors parody the falsre message ad infinitum and exactly the same, over and over?And YOU bought that crap??LOLOL...OK, so you think that a person, anyone, who uses the stuff is what, lazy, reckless, shifty, stupid, what?Doesnt that image fit a character like Homer J Simpson, a DRUNK, somewhat better?The users of MJ i have had the pleasure of meeting were all very motivated people, sportsmen and women, politicians, directors and such, even a couple of internationally known musicians; they like a spot in the evening to unwind. None of them support any restriction of MJ, at all, none, knowing it is the most harmless of herbs, medicinal, therapeutic, and no more dangerous than walking 5 km a day in any city; breathing city air.It is excellent for detoxification of serious drug addicts, like alcoholics, heroin, ice, cocaine, so, you best not ban it as you yourself will be needing it one day, when you are fat and diabetic and your wife has left you etc etc, lolol... chill bro, you're looking more radical and stupid by the second!

+Prince Prussia the talk has a pretty clear theory as to why certain drugs are punished more heavily.. and yes.. not every person who uses drugs is addicted to drugs..sounds like you should probably expand your knowledge about drugs and what each one does.. maybe give a couple of them a shot.. your knowledge seems pretty shallow and most of your statements sound like anti-drug rhetorictwo things...1. the generation before always thinks the generation after is less decent.. why do you think we havent stopped saying things like "kids these days".. and really i dont see how your hate and disdain for people is socially decent at all2. taxes and regulations are very effective at limiting the consumption of anything.. it would be extremely unlikely for any smuggling operation to be able to compete against the raw force of a company with guaranteed profitability and proper distribution channels.. who's going to spend their time trying to find a dealer when you can get your drugs and do your grocery shopping at the same time

+7rICk Because ever since hippie age started social decency has been on the way out. You know that, society in general is starting to show a lack of decency, obviously this isn't all because of drugs. But having hopeless addicts who apparently thought starting to use drugs was a good idea in dark alleys, not even realizing what they did to themselves, isn't exactly helping is it? It's not that difficult to see the effects drug addiction can have on people, especially people who don't know what drugs do. But even informing them doesn't seem to help at all, so what are you going to do huh? Just let the issue get bigger and bigger until it's completely normal to spend the night using cocaïne? hmm? What's your solution? Taxes? That won't stop smuggling and illegal sales because it would be more expensive to buy legally. 

So what if people want to get drugged, there are already laws if you do something wrong, why put more freedom restricting laws on top?

+Erich Hsu''and don't get addicted'' Really? Why do you think they were outlawed in the first place... 

+Mr Cabot What? You know drug use will rise, I'm not even Christian, look. I still don't understand why people use it, ok? I don't want it to become the norm in society and even after all the information being given to the youth they still use drugs... Why? It's pathetic really. Using drugs ''for pleasure'' THAT is braindead.

PP is obviously a brain dead and self righteous alcoholic without a leg to stand on, -morally, ethically or even legally.The laws cause more harm than the drugs, but just like 13th century Christians, they want to impose THEIR twisted values on the rest of the world.I think its time for allot of changes.  Imagine if alcohol was again prohibited, these loonies would be screaming all the way to the psych wards, to be attended to by loving... POT SMOKERS AND IMBIBERS, lolol...Heck, they even use MJ to detox ALCOHICS these days!!  LOLOL.

+Prince Prussia pretty sure most places are cool with alcohol.. that's "bad" for you.. also we use harmful chemicals in small quantities for a lot of stuff.. just visit your closest hardware store for tons of labels with warnings about not touching your eye, or using products in enclosed spaces.. and dont eat 6k calories worth of mcds a day.. its probably not a good ideadont overdose and dont get addicted and the impact of drugs on health are much smaller..riding a bike might kill you.. but people don't get on your case for doing it

+7rICk Of course it's a generalization, and yes there are exceptions, i am only saying that in the US it's more accepted to use drugs. 

Implying your relatives think like you so everybody their age thinks the same. Nice generalization you've got going there, got some any more biases to share?

+7rICk I know it's a common practice, and yes it's accepted by the youth, but not by the rest, dude.

+Prince Prussia Dude maybe you should get out some more because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

+Mud Hut That's not only because of that, i think it's because of culture. Social acceptance and criminal influence of drugs. Drugs are legal over here, but they're not socially accepted at all, people who use them are seen as idiots etc... In the US i believe that's quite diffirent isn't it. 

+Prince PrussiaThere is no evidence that ease of access to drugs increase drug use. Bring me statistical data that shows otherwise. Drug use in the EU is generally lower where drug use isn't as criminalised as in the US. Look at Amsterdam and weed, look at Portugal and all those nasty drugs they legalised. It seems that drug use is a lot worse in the schizophrenic US of A. How come the right to own a gun (designed to kill things) is in the constitution but the right to put in your body what you wish is not? The argument you have is the same as those who banned alcohol during prohibition. Alcohol use went higher than ever.

+MerrCA Prohibiting them allows you to punish people who sell and use them, right now in my country (Netherlands) we got laws that prohibit sales but not use... Guess how that turned out. 

But what are we accomplishing by prohibiting drugs? There is still people illegally doing drugs and still people murdering others to maintain their drug businesses/cartels. If we make most drugs legal, we can reduce the deficit by heavily taxing the sale of these drugs and we can cut off the businesses of cartels and drug dealers and make their previous crimes our advantages.

+tagradh You make it easy and accessible, and by now most people will know about those food chemicals, but they're there to improve taste, or make it look fancy, they're unhealthy though, recreational drugs are used basically for fun but they're unhealthy. Yea he mentions that increase but only later in the video and he also dismisses it as a legitimate complain, even though it's true. As if it should be normal for people to use drugs... Decency has disappeared i guess.

A bit worrying if you genuinely can't see the difference between the use of certain chemicals (often without adequate warning to potential consumers) in foods and recreational drugs."but of course does not mention the increase in drug use."He talks about this. And he talks a lot more sense than those that throw around the ill-thought-out, knee-jerk "everyone is gonna start doing drugs!!!" response. 

+wahahn right,you know bud

That's funny.... Who do you think runs Israel? Here's a hint - Look East, and find the little tiny country inside of Italy.

+Moe Smasher you truly have know life.. You just a dick with know brain...

+Dey Cross dam a weasel who can talk...

+Dey Cross..funny thing to call jism drippin' out ya mouth..

+Maleak Ali Don't cry

+Dey Cross lmao...

+Moe Smasher I would laugh but the sad thing about it is I ran over a raccoon last night that looks just like you even down to its pathetic overbite

+Moe Smasher lmao jacked up

I had a Maleak Ali before, right on the end of my anus.But a GOOD SHOT of penicillin cleaned it right up!

+sam2vlad Obama was raised by white people... Now like I stated to you before white supremacy is the number one form of terrorism

 Obumma is the number 1 terrorist on the planet and represents the worst terrorists on the planet. Politicians kissing the asses of the U.N and the NWO.

+sam2vlad White supremacy is the number one form of terrorism

any form of supremacy is bull shit and not just white.

Sadly, this is true. Black folks especially should be very afraid of this new regime coming into place. The whites have killed so many people throughout history.. Wiped out entire races. Think about how black culture has been pushed by the establishment. They are even promoting interracial sex. They aren't doing it for fun i can promise you that. If i was black i would be afraid. They are breeding you out and cleansing Africa. You don't really think Ebola just jumped out of a river do you?

yeah. closest thing you could get to it without mods is the full slow time shout. tiid klo un

+CommanderLink Is that the only way to get through a mod?

thanks

+Normantas Master the space-time continuum, part of the Skyrim Spells and Powers mod by WarriorKeKe

noice

+CommanderLink weak or not, Sovengarde respects loyal soldiers, not weak traitors. Maybe the Stormcloaks do preserve freedom for Nord's, but in a land where races are migrating, Nord democracy is not taken notice of. Besides, when the Empire makes new ways and citizens stick to them, all of Tamriel will be stronger.

imps are quite the opposite my friend. the stormcloaks stand up to the empire AND the thalmor, but the empire bows to the thalmors wishes. Stormcloaks will all die in the unwinnable battle vs the thalmor menace and go to sovngarde heroes, while the empire will die cowards

+CommanderLink shame really because I love talos and hate thalmor, they are jerks. Imps just seemed more powerful

+Jimbob Owens IMPERIAL BOOTLICKING THALMOR LOVING TALOS HATING FILCHER!

+warbaned rush Milk drinking blue robe shagging traitor!

DEATH TO THEY EMPIRE