This is the pivotal point in the game. Where we finally understand
everything, where both light and dark forces are blind to life and cannot
understand anything outside their confines.
I love this song. It almost symbolizes an end to something, yet an end that
doesn't bring resolution. There is a longing for a happy ending, but its
not there - instead answers leading to more questions. Its really sad
because its like a journey that hasn't ended, and it ties in beautifully as
a theme for the exile. It was awesome that they used it at the end of the
game as well.
+Dante arron i want to cry every time I think they might be dead. Thank god for Chris Avellone and kickstarter man. Pillars was a sigh of relief that the dream of beautifully written games is not over.
The moral of kotor 2's story is:Fuck Disney,EA and BioWare
Yes,fuck BioWare as well because ever since they sold their soul to EA they
suck, kotor 2 was better than kotor 1(Not that kotor 1 wasn't great but
kotor 2 has superior story) and the Revan novel and TOR were just *terrible*
+Wilhuff Tarkin I want them to do that too. I don't mind them canonizing some elements of the EU as long as they continue where the EU left off before April 2014. But if they can't do that, I don't see what's wrong with merging Legends and the new canon into a singular continuity, it goes to show that the EU is more important than they care to admit to us.
+LightStreak567 Maybe... But as I said, I'd prefer if they kept the old and new canon seperate and just continued the EU as an alternate universe or something, that's all. Mixing up both continuities? Nope, I have a bad feeling about this. They're already too different to mix them up without leaving big chunks of the old canon out. At least everything after Endor (including the Thrawn Trilogy) can't be included into the new canon.
+Wilhuff Tarkin Call me crazy if you want, but I get the feeling that stories that matter in the Star Wars universe like Tales Of The Jedi, KOTOR, KOTOR 2, SWTOR, the Darth Plagueis novel, the Darth Bane trilogy novels and Shadows Of The Empire might get integrated into Disney's new canon. Why? I'll explain everything.For Tales Of The Jedi, the Hundred Year Darkness, the conflict that birthed the Sith is confirmed to be canon in one of the new Star Wars comic books where Luke Skywalker goes to Nar Shaddaa to find Obi-Wan's journal which is in the possession of a cyborg hutt named Grakkus who collects anything related to Jedi like holocrons, and one of those holocrons Luke unknowingly activated mentioned The Hundred-Year Darkness from Tales Of The Jedi, saying that all Jedi were once brothers in the Force, but the Hundred-Year Darkness birthed the Sith. But specifics of this event, where it took place and people involved were never mentioned, which means I don't know if Ajunta Pall and the Jedi home world Tython canonically exists, or the pureblood Sith race, but I have a feeling they do, Disney and Lucasfilm are just shy on revealing information that comes exclusively from the EU for some reason. Probably because they don't want us to know that their new canon won't be too different from the original canon yet.As for the KOTOR series, Disney has been strangely kind to them. I mean, they, along with Aspyr, ported KOTOR to be played on iPod devices, and they gave two official updates to KOTOR 2 over Steam and Linux, which is an odd treatment for a game that is 10 years old and supposedly considered non-canon. As for TOR, with the release of Knights Of The Fallen Empire, I noticed on the loading screen that the LucasArts logo is gone, replaced by the Lucasfilm logo which in my opinion might mean that the Lucasfilm Story Group is now closely working alongside BioWare and EA on that game, or simply studying the game's storyline and characters.As for the novels that I think might be canonized, I can't imagine Disney and Lucasfilm hiring James Luceno or some other author to write a new Darth Plagueis novel when there already is one, and I can't imagine them hiring Drew Karpyshyn or another author to write a Darth Bane novel when the trilogy novels we know will always be the best, and as for Shadows Of The Empire, I think there might be a movie based on it one day, at least, it's story is too important to discard. Oh yes, and there is Razor's Edge, that novel should be canonized too because it tells how the Rebel Alliance ended up having their base on Hoth before Episode 5.
+Wilhuff Tarkin Mass Effect armor looked nothing like stormtrooper armor. Trust me, I've played the games. Star Wars and Mass Effect remain distinct even with this new direction.
+LightStreak567 The fact that everything (besides N-Canon stuff) was part of that huuuuge continuity that span over 30.000 years is what made Star Wars so exciting and special to me. When I read the Darth Bane trilogy (set in 1000 - 980 BBY) I knew that all the things that happened before had lead to this and mattered (Tales of the Jedi, KotOR, TOR, etc.) and that all the things that followed were influenced by what happened in this trilogy, including the Legacy era a hundred years after the movies. This being said, I see no reason I would enjoy the new movies. They're called Star Wars, they look like Star Wars (these new stormtroopers look like they're from Mass Effect, though) and they sound like Star Wars, but they have nothing to do with what I know as Star Wars. They're not set in the galaxy I grew up with and love.
+Wilhuff Tarkin I agree. They've gone too far with their power to control what is and isn't canon to the Star Wars universe. Not every EU story, game, novel and comic deserved this.
+Giannis k. My problem isn't that it's made by Disney. My problem is that Disney decided to dump the entire canon and replace it with a mix of something new and rip-offs of the EU.
+Wilhuff Tarkin well,to be completly fair, disliking something just because Disney made it is wrong and Lucas was not exactly the best guy in charge of Star WarsBut yeah,if the new trilogy ends up to be garbage,i will ignore whatever Disney says and stick with the Expanded Universe
+Wilhuff Tarkin Maybe it's early days yet. Maybe hardcore fans like myself who enjoyed many battles depicted in the novels are bitter that what they once loved has been thrown in the trash with pitifully few elements kept in 'canon'. But until disney replace them with equally good or better novels and films, my personal bitterness shall remain, even IF Star Wars Rebels has actually made use of the Interdictor and some other EU stuff
+Wilhuff Tarkin James Luceno is a godsend for fans of the EU who have been slapped with the diluted, corrupted, horribly weak trash disney have the audacity to call 'Star Wars'. Fans such as myself
+Wilhuff Tarkin What makes you believe this when Tarkin came second after A New Dawn? I know James Luceno wrote it, but that alone isn't strong enough evidence, because there was already an EU book that mentioned a few details of Tarkin's past, and it is almost similar.
+LightStreak567 I strongly believe the Tarkin novel was originally meant to be part of the EU. It just happened to become D-Canon, because it was finished right after Disney bought Star Wars. It was written by James Luceno, a veteran EU writer, and it just feels like a true EU novel. It mentions much more EU things than any other D-Canon work so far, and it does it in such a casual way that it seems to expect its readers to know about the EU, what casuals, Disney's main audience, don't.
+LightStreak567 To be honest, I don't want the untouched parts of the EU to be canonized again. It would become an abomination, a bastardization between the original Star Wars and Disney Wars (it would be like TCW but on a much larger scale) I think the best solution would be making the EU an alternate universe, completely independent and different from Disney's approach. This way, we would have our Star Wars in its original, true form and Disney could mess around with its own canon and eventually ruin it. The more different Disney Wars becomes from Star Wars, the better.
+Giannis k. I don't believe that. Before the Tarkin novel was released, people adamantly claimed that it decanonizes TFU. I've read it, and it does not. It takes place in 14 BBY, while Starkiller s still a child, whether his existence is canon or not. TFU happens somewhere between 3 BBY or 1 BBY, season 1 of Rebels happens around 5 or 4 BBY, and I think season 2 happens in 4 BBY, Rebels has yet to reach the time when the major events of TFU happen. The future is always in motion, however.I know, and I also know that Darth Bane was originally mentioned in the novelization of Episode 1, it's just that his backstory was never expanded on until recently. And as for the Old Republic, how can the Jedi be guardians of the Old Republic for a thousand GENERATIONS? Generations does not measure time by the passing of years, it measures the passing of time by succession of natural descent or rank. For example, let's say Obi-Wan is a 1,233rd generation Jedi Knight. That means the Jedi have served the Republic for more than a thousand years. If Disney confirms the reformation of the Old Republic after all Sith except Darth Bane were extinct, then this contradicting information would be clarified. The reformation also would explain why the normal military of the modern Old Republic before and during the Clone Wars appear so weak they rely on the clones compared to the military of the Old Republic in KOTOR, KOTOR 2 and SWTOR, where they are efficiently trained especially in handling vibroswords.//starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ruusan_Reformation
+LightStreak567 TFU1&2 can never became canon again,Disney made the Rebels show which takes place at that time,TBH i think TFU2 was a bad and short game and i didn't really like the crone Starkiller idea,the first game was OK through.I heard Starkiller may show up on the Rebels but his story certainly wouldn't be the same and it's possible Disney could seriously fuck him upParts of the Darth bane books are canon since he is mentioned on TCW show i think but that only makes things more confusing,in Disney's new canon the Republic is only 1000 years oldThe Expanded Universe after episode 6 becaming no-canon was a necessity for Disney's new trilogy which i could accept(R.I.P Kyle Katarn and all others)but the old republic era becaming non-canon was a retarded move since it didn't have anything to do with the movies(creative freedom my ass,Disney)The new trilogy better be worth it or elseWe could hope for a SW RPG game which takes place around the Mandalorian wars(something like a kotor prequel)to recanonize(i know that's not a word)the old republic era but i doubt it will happen
+Giannis k. Yes. I sincerely hope that they aren't serious about decanonizing ALL of the EU, because KOTOR, KOTOR 2, SWTOR, all the novels based around them, because they chronicle the long conflict between the Jedi and Sith long before Darth Bane's lifetime. However, the fact that KOTOR is now playable on IOS and Disney approved and officially released the Restored Content mod for KOTOR 2 gives me a shred of hope that the Old Republic series might have a place in Disney's canon.I even want the Darth Bane trilogy novels, the Darth Plagueis novel, The Force Unleashed 1 and 2, and the Shadows of The Empire novel and N64 game to be canon again.I know this is all wishful thinking, but I want this because I have a habit of paying more attention to canon events, and I do not want to ignore the EU games and novels I listed because they are the gems of the Star Wars franchise. I respect the Thrawn trilogy novels and every EU game and novel set after Episode 6, but I clearly see they can't be integrated into Disney's canon no matter how badly we want it.
+LightStreak567 the fanboy strikes againAnyways I think we should just agree to disagree and agree that we need the EU before the episodes to became canon again (again fuck Disney)
+Giannis k. They may be terrible to you, but they are important in the overall plot that KOTOR and KOTOR 2 set up. Without the Revan novel, we wouldn't know what happened to Revan after KOTOR 1, and what happened to both the exile and Revan after KOTOR 2 (though KOTOR 3 would have possibly covered that part if it weren't canceled). Don't let your anger overcome your senses.
+Giannis k. Fuck Disney? Agree 100 fucking percent!Fuck EA? Agree! Fuck BioWare? Agree partially.TOR terrible? Nope, I don't agree. I liked it, especially the Sith warrior storyline.Revan novel sucked? No idea, haven't read it yet. However, Fuck Disney and it's fake Star Wars and long live the EU!
+MrJaden66 Kotor 1 has a great story,all i said was that Kotor 2 is betterAnd yeah,we are on one mind in this one: TOR is only a shit that ruined kotor
+Giannis k. Actually KOTOR1 had kinda nice story, but TOR sucked as fuck
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