i feel the NRA should just apply the insurance immediately. there is no
reason to have to activate it other than to avoid paying. bottom line is we
didnt ask for it they offer it for free WITH our membership but in reality
it is offered for free to members. there is a difference and its in the
wording. if they truly want to be on the up and up and offer and make us
activate it the say they will discount it but it will be extra! i rather
pay extra than to be duped into thinking i already have it!
I love the NRA and I re-joined a couple of weeks ago and I got a duffel bag
as a gift for joining when I got the bag I assumed that my member ID
stickers and all that good stuff would be in the same package but it was
not kinda weird but ok no biggie then I get an email telling me I had till
march 10 (today) to activate my arm care insurance but you need your member
ID to do so... I did call them to get my ID but they said it take up to 8
weeks to get your member card so it's just odd that they
Yeah as much as I love the NRA I think they get you to join in part because
you believe that you will be protected in these types of situations! And
now the NRA-ILA is more responsible for making actual legislative action so
any of you out there you can donate to the NRA-ILA and not pay money to the
NRA's bullshit and the NRA wing from what I understand only deals with
public relations and Insurance crap so quit saying it was your mistake
because to be real it's NRA's bullshit!
Profitable insurance companies always deny claims on first attempt. Most
insurance policies protect you against nothing, they specifically exclude
any claims you might encounter. This policy seems to be designed so that
most people paying for it are not covered for anything. Your mistake? No.
Their fraud. Insurance industry is mostly a scam. Put your money into
metals, throw it in the safe, now you have a real insurance policy which
will cost the same and actually pays out.
@WarThug13 If someone REALLY cares about their second amendment rights
(which I do), you shouldn't be worrying about these lobbying groups, you
should be focusing on the politicians who actually make the legislation. I
understand that they the lobby groups try to sway the politicians but in
the long run they will do as they please. I do think the NRA has done some
good things, but from 2nd hand and personal experience they have screwed a
lot of people over.
C'mon Jeff, your smarter than that! it's a scam, they don't place it out in
the open because very few will not "Activate" the insurance and then they
don't have to pay! I looked over all my paperwork before posting this and
there isn't anything stating that I have to "Activate" anything for the
insurance. The fact that they are taking and keeping your money for this
insurance means your active, if you werent active why did they take and
keep your money?
Jeff, the reason they do not automatically enroll everyone is that the
coverage is purchased from a third party. They offer it as a benefit and
will pay the premium for you but if you do not want it then why pay out
that money. The NRA is not insuring your guns, Lockton Risk is. If you opt
for the ArmsCare Plus it is underwritten by Lloyds of London. If you use
the LoL premium rate of .0174 cents per dollar value, the premium would be
$43.50 per year.
PA is awfully backwards. A firearm is stolen and the law enforcement
officers are like, ho hum, just write it up as another stolen weapon. There
is no investigation, no arrests, no follow through nothing. The entire
story sounds like a scheme to collect insurance but it was foiled because
the person signed up for the insurance 6 days before the theft occurred not
realizing that the insurance would not be activated immediately.
@cutlerylover LOL, have you been smoking weed again? :) We would vote
whether it was a democracy or a constitutional republic. The difference is
that the republic protects the rights of the minority and that was the
point in the first place. A democracy is basically mob rule with the
majority always winning. You need to find that one person in life you trust
and ask them :) I would have hated to be your teacher in school :)
Interesting… Recently, one of the Republican Red States enacted some pretty
restrictive conceal carry laws. Don’t recall hearing a peep from the NRA
on this. I guess, if you are Republican, or Red State lawmakers, the NRA
is OK with restricting 2nd Amendment rights. Back on topic; This guy gets
screwed, and it’s all good. Bend over a little more to they can stick all
of it in. There is a term for this behavior.
@GlitchLXIV the best part of the scam is when you pay hundreds, possibly
thousands of dollars a year, then when something is broken or stolen they
give you a lowball amount. my house got struck by lightning and my
computer, TV, and Xbox 360 got killed. called the insurance company, gave
them receipts showing it was a 2k computer, 350 dollar TV, ad a 300 dollar
Xbox the gave me 800 to replace all three of them. F M L
@onsskater2 I just did the registration today they do not ask you anything
about what firearms you own. So your confused on that. All the information
they asked me for is on my drivers license and they did not ask for the
license number either. After signing up they offered a link so you can read
the fine print of the policy. Man it scares the hell out of me when police
can't get their information straight scarey.
@jyatzy123 Not really... had he activated the insurance within the proper
amount of time and the NRA made some excuse as to why they won't be
covering his loss then it would be getting fucked. All in black and white.
Being mad about Jeff's situation would be like going to a drive-thru,
ordering a burger, and being pissed of you didn't get a chocolate shake and
some fries with it at no cost.
Also I activated my insurance after your last vid two wks ago and just j
received an email last week that I have to confirm my registration by 3/10
for the plan to become active. To sum up, in order to get this coverage,
one has to join the NRA, activate the membership, wait until the 1st of the
following month to,receive an email requesting confirmation of activation
within 10 days.
I have a rider on my homeowners policy for $XXX and do not have to provide
types serial numbers, etc. I have full documentation on all of my guns in a
very safe place, Invoice, Bill of Sale, etc. all pertinent info. Same goes
for my other "toys" that most homeowner policies only allow $X for
particular items. Just some info for your viewers. Include your KNIVES!!
@patriotsnfl1 You understand that this car has been crushed right, meaning
this 2 ton automobile has been reduced to 1/10 its size it is just
compressed metal now, you think you can just pry it apart and "find" the
gun? The gun is gone whether inside the heap of scrap metal, or inside the
buyers waistband, its not going to be found.
NRA insurance is a scam. I have known several people that have made claims
only to be denied for one reason or another. This whole system of needing
to activate the insurance is just a tactic to prevent paying claims. get
insurance through your renters policy or your home owners policy. The
coverage is not only better but cheaper.
I lo ve what the NRA does for gun rights but if there going to to offer the
insurance they should not make you activate it. To me it sounds like not
lonly a slick way to save money but it seems to also be a marketing tool to
get people to sign up. That was a contributing factor to my joining the NRA
when I did.
Thank You Cutlerylover! The NRA has fixed thier issue.
I cant prove this, but i think the video Jeff (Cutlerylover) posted about the activation of your NRA ArmsCare insurance , may have been recognized by the NRA.
@cutlerylover no problem Jeff!! your a good guy and i LOVE your vids! and
you made a good point and helped a lot of people. been a sub for a while
and thought I'd point out a some what obvious change in the way the do
things "all of a sudden" LOL
Thanks for the video man, coincidence, parhaps, lol, no doubt they had a
bum rush of activations, specifically Petes viewers being mostly gun
owners, probably wondering why, lol..
NRA Offers "Stand Your Ground" Insurance to Gun Owners
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The car wreck analogy sums it up you brown jacketed dicksmoker. Even when
someone deserves to get run off the road, having or not having insurance
never crosses one's mind! it's what's in a person's heart that makes them
do certain things, bad things as a matter of fact you can run people down
and kill them on the daily basis as long as you're sober and it's a
"accident". So according to you you contemplate on killing someone every
time you get behind the wheel and you're sober , that's f****** absurd
The Only thing that I need and like to see from the Government is “Protect
my Constitutional Rights”. It is your choice to own or don’t own. Nobody is
forcing U.. but.. Don’t force me to renounce to own a gun base in whatever
your opinion is. (Get involve in your own business and let me alone) It is
my right under the constitution to own a gun and under the “Common Law” to
defend myself and my property. (Stand your ground). End of the discussion.
No space to misinterpretation. Thank U :-)
I do not fear my local police... I fear world banking oligarchies have
taken over our military industrial complex as well as our legislative and
executive branches, and are planning to further militarize our police force
and conduct operation within the united states. The FED has our economy by
its balls, because we like coward idiots, placed them there. I foresee a
designed catastrophic economic collapse, the people will beg for
intervention, and we will become full slaves. lets hope im wrong.
Oh, well, if they are criminals then it wont apply, and hill billies are
people to technically. this it make more sense when you look at human
history, it doesn't seem so obvious now because we are living even with
this recession in a very affluent time, but sometimes power structures get
too centralized and get compromised by mob mentality (a pure democracy)
that allow for oligarchy that would use force against a Minority pop. Point
being you should be able to defend you and yours with a gun.
As a member of the NRA, I think, Pakman is just coming from a really
uneducated perspective. Stand your ground laws are good and support the
intent of 2nd amendment, wasn't created for criminals or hillbillies
killing marmots, its there to prevent internal government takeovers that go
against constitution/ our civil liberties and obviously self defense. Look,
there is no way this is a bad thing, there are way too many lawyers our
there gaming the law. This is for people properly using the 2nd.
History man history. not learning from the errors of others is dangerous.
also its important to note terrifying centralization of power in the
federal government. also look up sociopath statistics, when you get to the
top lvls of federal government (also CEOs) you find that its around 1 out
of 4 are full blown sociopaths. I have a gun, thats the point, what does it
matter if i signed a piece of papper that let the gov know i have one, haha
are suggesting that they would try and take it back?
Damnit I hate this new feature where you press Enter and it immediately
posts your comment. Anyway, I"m sure there are people around who are
qualified to carry a weapon, and I have no reason to assume you are not one
of them. The point is, however, that guns per se don't help anyone. If
you're afraid that it's a bad thing that the police are the only ones
carrying weapons, then that might be a bigger problem than the fact that
you can't. Also, I assume CEOs are allowed to carry guns, too?
Why is Dave calling this "stand your ground" insurance? What about
instances where there is no opportunity to flee? Say I'm cornered, and
would like to flee--I don't want to stand my ground--, but the assailant
won't let me get away and I have to kill him in self-defense; sounds like
"stand your ground" insurance wouldn't cover me. Aren't we using the phrase
"sand your ground" as a proxy for self-defense, in order to make the
ancient law of self-defense sound like something new and crazy?
People with car insurance feel more relaxed when they drive; sure not quite
the same thing, but this definitely won't prevent more deaths from these
laws. Castle doctrine is best for gun laws above all, and I think concealed
permits are wrong in that they do, again, increase deaths. One may argue of
black markets, or knowing someone may have a concealed weapon could
potentially bar an act of violence, but less guns today will directly equal
less deaths. Increase regulation.
I get the logic from the NRA point of view to offer this kind of insurance.
They were behind getting the stand your ground laws on the books. So in
order to give it traction in the US, they'll have this cases to cite in
advertisements displaying success in murdering others standing in line for
a pizza, if they piss you off. Then they sell a LOT more guns. It's a win
win for the NRA. Except for those getting killed and the other suckers who
lose their murder cases.
I don't get it. How exactly are your constitutional rights and civil
liberties in danger in any way? Because I don't recall any anti-gun laws
being pushed through under Obama and especially not under Bush, and to say
that the law wasn't created for criminals or hillbillies doesn't mean they
don't apply to those people as well. It's too easy to say a law 'protects
your civil liberties' when there's just no reason to assume anyone's even
trying to take them away.
The fact that the NRA has the power in this country to shape policy, and to
misrepresent the text of the Second Amendment (so much so that the
right-wing of the Supreme Court agrees with their misreading), indicates
the low, low point we have reached. The NRA knows it's misrepresenting the
amendment; they never print the whole text in their ads. They're revolting,
disgusting men who need to compensate for their tiny penises.
Dave, Louis & Natan. Here, I found this article, it's available online, and
a cursory reading makes me think it's a decent article. Margaret Raymond,
Looking for Trouble: Framing and the Dignitary Interest in the Law of
Self-Defense, Univ. Iowa Legal Stud. Research Paper No. 09-39 (Sept. 1,
2009) Since you talk about this so much, why don't you try to get some
background understanding of the topic? It's an easy read.
These people are cowards and choose violence to oppress opinion and
intimidate. A gun is a symbol and tool of that. Increase education. The
most heinous of crimes are not committed where a gun is necessary to
correct the wrong doing, a educated vote is. These are crimes committed
with profit over people, money. Fuck the nra. Do these people realize what
an Apache helicopter can do to one of their trailer parks.
The comparison is inapt. Car insurance pays your damages when you are at
fault. From what Dave's saying this doesn't pay anything at all if you are
found liable. That said, there's a lot of economic research on the effect
of liability insurance on the deterrent effect of the tort system. Most
economists have arrived at the consensus that it doesn't alter incentives.
Go NRA! I think that is great insurance because it's going to make the law
abiding citizen thats being attacked/robbed less afraid to defend
themselves with deadly force which is a good thing granted their defending
themselves from a criminal/attacker to protect themselves and/or their
families.
It's a good idea, why should it cost you your life savings if you defend
yourself from someone that's trying to kill or rape you..Thank God for the
second amendment. Did you know that over 3500 white women are raped and/or
murdered by black men every year in the USA..Never seen that on CNN!
I'm with you for your entire comment except for the final sentence. The
idea that you some day have to defend yourself against your own government
with weapons is out-dated. Also, what good does having a government-issued
gun license when it's the government you're rebelling against?
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