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Dissidia 012 [Duodecim]: Final Fantasy - English Gameplay: Lightning

Some Lightning gameplay footage from IGN.

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@banglefaar He was often forced in to backstory by the others because he was reluctant to talk about himself. His backstory ended up getting confused because he wanted to be someone he's not [aka Zack, sorry if it spoiled anyone but it should be common knwledge by now]. He feels he must kill Sephiroth yet he couldn't right up until the final battle, despite the fact he had enough strength to do that before JENOVA messed about as much as she did thanks to Hojo [which is a very Sasuke thing to do]
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@shadowtsunami (1)I can name alot of games with different outcomes and non-linear gameplay actually but why bother? XIII was modeled for the KH's fans, bottom line. Never before have I seen character act so dumb an oblivious to everything going on around them. A gun fight is breaking out and the people in Snow's resistance are asking if they can nap. For the first 3-4 hours of the game, I had no idea what the fuck was going on with all the terminology (forcing you to read datalogs) and so forth.
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@banglefaar There are a lot more games that have a linear style than non linear, it is probably 3 or 4 to one, 13 wasn't modeled after KH fan base it was modeled after 12 especially the battle system(which sucks main character die the party dies). And yes i agree that the first 3-4 hours of the game i too had no idea what was going on that is why i started over from chapter 11 XD. But seriously it is far from the worse in the series. 10-2 was like straight up fan base. Hopefully 13-2 is better.
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@KefkasInsanity Once again you fail to see the real point: I'm not a VII fanatic. IX is my favorite, followed by VI and then XII. I enjoy exploring the worlds, characters and settings involving both in my Final Fantasy games. IX has the most exploration and a fairly decent story (if you actually go in depth with it). VI has incredible characters and an awesome storyline (including Kefka who actually DESTROYS the world and isn't crying about his mom...Sephiroth). So what are you talking about?
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@shadowtsunami (2) Every character is completely moronic. They modeled Lightning to be a female Cloud. Square-Enix denies this now, but I remember clearly reading about it back when the game was in development. Hope could only express things by bitching and whining, Vanille acted like she had no idea what the fuck was going on aside from not knowing the natural color of the sky. Snow wouldn't go 2 seconds without bringing up saving the world or fucking Serah. I will agree about Sazh though.
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@KefkasInsanity (1) I felt Cloud was alot more tolerable as a main character. He had alot of psychological issues which led to an identity crisis. I just felt I could connect with him more than fuckhead Squall. This is a stupid cunt of an asshole that has 3 women creaming their panties on him and all he can think of is besting Seifer and moping about how he can't trust anyone. He was a dick to all his teammates until the very end where he was alright. He pissed me off the first 3 disks...
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@shadowtsunami (3) He deserved to be in a much better game. But the fact is this game received ALOT of negativity from the fanbase. Then Square released sorry ass XIV knowing the little kiddies would buy and play it regardless of whether it was full of bugs or not. They can't make their annual quota now thanks to their half-assness and made an announced sequel to XIII even though it was never mention in the fabula nova crystallis line up to make ends meet. Versus XIII looks HORRIBLE...
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@banglefaar As for issues with FF14, thats mostly due to being an unfinished game at release, not because of age-specifics. From what little I could play of it [These issues plus a sub-par PC atm makes for a crapton of lag] it's not that different from FF11, just with superior graphics. I welcome that since I could only get up to an 800x600 ratio on FF11, and my sreen is set to 1380x780. It made the game look very pixely. Otherwise, I don't think there's much difference between them.
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@KefkasInsanity (2) That's about the same equivalent of you dealing with Cloud for 3 disks as well. I guess that calls it even and it's really all an opinion...unless if it comes to XIII or X-2. Fuck both of those games. Also, yes, I know you are a VI fan, I had no doubt in my mind. I just didn't want you claiming me to be a fanatic of VII just because I defended Cloud and what I believed to be a better character than Squall. I feel the emo main character cliche came from Squall lol
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@shadowtsunami (1) XIII was not based on XII's fanbase because for the most part, all the little kiddies hated XII due to it's political storyline, deep combat system, exploration and a main character that wasn't a stupid emo cunt. XII was actually a decent game with an excellent cast and storyline. Hell, it's the first FF in ages to have an antagonist that doesn't come from fucking no where and shouldn't be a last boss! So I disagree with you ragging on XII. Far better than XIII.
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@shadowtsunami I could care less what they say because every review bases that score on the gameplay, NOT the linear ass maps, horrid voice acting, terrible characters (in a character driven game) and terrible storyline. I played the game for 3 hours and wanted to kill myself. It's obvious the target audience ranged from 13-16 year olds who LOVE Kingdom Hearts. It's why XIII and XIV are being hallmarked as the worse in the series and Square is going bankrupt from it. Read more.
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@shadowtsunami (4) Directed by stupid cunt Tetsuya Nomura who will further prove that anything he touches he fucking ruins. You have an emo main character fighting just like Kingdom Hearts...in what looks like Tokyo, fighting Shinra soldiers. It's so blatantly Japanese theme that it's sickening. I could care less whether these games are produced in Japan, the older games were made to appeal to everyone. FF hasn't been FF since Hironobu Sakaguchi left Square, bottom line.
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@KefkasInsanity (1) Well, everyone is different. Glad you could meet someone who can have an opinion on a character and have reasoning to back up why he feels that way about it. And yes, I connected with Cloud in 1997 when I was like what...13-14? Yup, that's how generally "bad" it was for someone at my age trying to fit into school and all that lovely crap so on that note, I was troubled at the time. And you couldn't get me to harp about Advent Children if you tried.
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@KefkasInsanity (2) It was one of the worse movies I have EVER seen. The story was complete crap, not explaining really where these 3 remnants of Sephiroth came from with their black leather emo outfits and cellphones...how they got the Shinra Corp. by the balls in less than a week...I mean the list goes on. Why do people love this movie so much? Because it has neat fighting in it. THAT'S IT. I'd watch Spirits Within over it any day because at least that had a story.
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@shadowtsunami (2) I've nothing positive to say on XIII Versus other than it will make or break Square-Enix and honestly I hope it fucking send it pillaging in a heap of flames. They deserve nothing less for sticking solely to stupid ass Kingdom Hearts games and ruining Final Fantasy. Yeah, fuck what the fans want...no more Chrono Games...or a Xenogears sequel...or a damn Vagrant Story sequel (though FF XII technically counts...SERIOUSLY). Square-Enix is broken.
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@banglefaar that is mostly what matters if the game play sucked then the game sucks even if the maps weren't linear. Tell me what games aren't linear? XIII again wasn't the worst in the series now 14 all right i agree with you there that game was atrocious. That is the worst game in the series. Voice acting is a preference, lightning, Snow, and Saz had very good va. In Japanese they don't all sound different. just going to wait for 13-2 and versus 13.
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@banglefaar Oh jeez where do I start...I managed to keep away from FF7 long after the hype's climax. I only played it about 3 years ago, so I didn't get caught up in all the "OMG best game on PS1 EVAR!" crap [even though it was still arond somewhat]. I can't say I enjoyed it all that much, collecting and mastering Materia was about the best part of the whole game. Anyway, Cloud followed a typical anime protagonist style all the way through.
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@banglefaar And before you start harping on about "Oh, Advent Children and all that destroyed his character," bear in mind that Sephiroth and JENOVA were inside the Lifestream at the end. All the events afterwards could easily tie in, and theoretically now they are essentially one, they would come back so long as the Lifestream exists. By defeating them both in the Northern Crater, he essentially helped them both become somewhat immortal.
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@banglefaar I know you're a bigger fan of FF9 btw, you said it enough in your videos. Im just annoyed that you said Cloud acted normal when he should have been on Prozac since 1997. As for defending, FF13, I can't say I am, since I haven't played it yet. I won't be doing so for a while since my PS3 isn't in the best condition atm. Also, I'm not sure if you've seen my username, but I dont think you need to dictate the events of FF6 to me.
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@banglefaar Ahem, saying Cloud "doesn't act like an anime character" and "acts like an actual human being," when he's a typical anime Wesley of the same calibre as Sasuke? That's not irrational to you? And saying that it was only recently that FF has been anime-styled when anime character traits go as far back as FF5? You may want to look back on some of these games. I think you might be surprised at what you'll find.
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@banglefaar ...Seriously? You could connect with Cloud? Wow...you must be troubled then if you could feel a connection with someone who's as three-dimentional as a line segment. Ultimatey, Cloud's own troubled mind was the result of his inability to think for himself. He wanted to be just like other people to the point where personality issues were inevitable. At least Squall defeated the main villain in his game.
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@KefkasInsanity (3) So yeah, there are my 2 cents on the whole thing. Screwed up young life, hated Advent Children, think Squall is homosexual for Seifer or in some way a complete imbecile for someone "foreseen" to lead a group of merc's... (don't get me started on 8's plotholes). IX was a breath of fresh air, with the best protagonist ever, best world and exploration...I mean...wow I love that game.
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@banglefaar The amount of times I wished I could kick Cloud out of the party because he's such a Wesley...The part where control was lead by Tifa wasn't enough for me. I just wanted to get rid of him before my brain melted from his attitude. I don't see how anyone can miss any of this: he became an archetype for Squall's arseholeish behavior, yet Squall got better over time more than Cloud ever did.
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@banglefaar Other characters in FF7 that are anime are as follows: Yuffie [hyperactive cheery-girl with an obsession with something], Tifa [Battle Vixens is all I need to say], Sephiroth [typical hero fallen from grace]. I think you'll find my statement holds more weight than your own. If you can't see these anime characteristics, then I don't really know what to say.
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@jjboyo I think to each their own. Terra's afraid of her powers, isn't she? She's also not as fond of fighting as the other 9 to 5 "Meatheads". It does make sense she'd sound almost desperate in her attacks. From what I've seen, Lightning is more hardened, and also more professional, it'd make sense she'd call out her attacks. She takes her role very seriously.

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