The M47TU2 has a limiter at 248 km/h (speedometer). Without DPF and Box it runs into the limiter.)
BMW 520d vs BMW 320d - Acceleration Test
BMW F10 520d Stock. BMW F30 320d Stock. Good Time. Strictly Follow: ▻E36 M3 0-270 km/h https://goo.gl/1ffLPg ▻E46 M3 0-270 km/h https://goo.gl/e9S1u0 ...
+Ivo DelevWell, we can't argue about personal preferences, I guess. ;)But if you take a look at the area around the climate- & radio-control and around the shift-stick, the F30 simply looks and feels cheap. The cabin is well put together, but the materials don't fit the prices.
+BFD15i i cant agree with you, its all about personal preference i have the f30(leather, sat nav etc.), one of my friends got the f10(ssame leather sat nav etc.). and i must say i like the my f30( not because its mine) 10 times more on the inside and the ride is not that better.
+Ian Townsend The F30 might be a good car. A "true BMW", since it is quite lightweight and sporty. But the cabin-quality compared to the F10 is just crap. There is more than 1 class difference between an 5 series and the 3 series when it comes down to materials and craftsmanship. If you like it comfy (with a note of sportiness), spacious, quiet and good looking and feeling: go for the 5 series.If you like it sporty and agile with a tighter cabin: go for the 3 series.For me, even coming from an E60, the F30 was a disappointment at the interieur. Don't want to spend tenthousands of kilometres in there every year.
+gingerbread manWell, I can't argue with personal feelings but remember: Nobody said that a 530i E60 had a "too small engine", even though a current 520d outperforms the old 530i (except topspeed). Plus the fact, that the F10 is way heavier than the E60.It's just that you get used to the power, and you want more. And more. And more.You mentioned the 2006 525d. My mother had that car, while I had a 2009 520d. Same HP, less torque at the 20d. Overall, my 520d was quicker. It was lighter, better aerodynamics, better transmission.And currently, you can get the 525d with a 2 litre engine with 218HP and 450(?)Nm of torque. That's almost the same power that the E60 530d delivered.You only need the 3 litre-engines if you really want to be faster than 90% of the other cars on the streets (at least in europe, don't know how powerful / fast the cars in the U.S. are)
+gingerbread man - I drove the 525D 2006 (180/400) myself and that one was indeed slower and heavier then the last generation but like a dog, not really. My other car, a Mercedes C200 2006 (160/270), that felt like a dog. Anything under 300Nm is slow for a diesel.
+DaSmooth well i feel able to comment as iv had a 525d about 7 years ago (2006 model) and to me that felt like a dog. its just my opinion that IF you like driving and 180hp is not enough in a car the size of the 5 series BUT i admit the 480nm u quoted for the newer 5s i did not know! and tbh is kind of impressive that would make them fell pretty quick.
+gingerbread man - euhm, don't get me wrong but shouldn't you leave the discussion to people who actually drive a 5-series?! The new 2 liter is a perfect engine for the 5 series. 180hp/430nm is great. You can even go higher up to 220/460 but I choose to eco tune. In case of the 518D edition, you are right, just enough while there is something a lot better. But tuned up to the figures I mentioned before (in fact those are figures to what the engine was engineered and if there is one company that can engineer engines it's BMW)? Just perfect.
+BFD15i don't get me wrong i do agree that a 2.0 is enough for everyday driving, iv got a 320d e90 184hp and it does its job very well but sometimes i feel i want a little more il be honest i do wish i could have gone for the 330d but the insurance was 3k a year ON TOP of what the 320d was!. I'm coming from a point of view where I'm border line happy with the 320 that engine in a 5 is asking a little to much for the weight of the car in my opinion. everyday around town yes motorways no
+gingerbread man In 95% of all situations in all countries of the world, you don't need more than the 20d in a 5 series.The 520d F10 even delivers better all-day-performance than an old 530i E60, just because of that enormous torque from the turbodiesel.
+gingerbread man - Nah, I know both engines and the 2.0 is a wonderful piece of BMW engine technology that performs just enough for the 5 series. I had to go even lower to a 518d (same 2.0!) to avoid extreme taxes. Tuned it from 136hp/360nm to 178hp/430nm and it performs very well. There's always boss above boss. People who are really into performance won't even take the 3.0 but will look for engines going under 5 seconds to accelerate from 0 to 100. In Europe, on the German highway, the 3.0 will totally outperform the 2.0 (from 160km/h tot 240km/h is just amazing with the 3.0 where the 2.0 meets its limits). Somewhere else in Europe, Belgium in my case, you don't need it because you can simply never use it.
This video is REAL what the hell is you guys' problem? By the time the 320d
hits 200km/h the M3 already hit 250... on the other hand the M550d would be
faster than the M3 since its 0-100km/h is 4.8s. Besides it has 381hp and
800nm..
M3 e36 is somewhere between 330d and 335d
+Ahrle Bengtsdotter Okay your data seems very off to me. Look at any video of m550d and you know that the M3 e36 doesnt stand a chance 0-200... Besides here is some data: M550d M3 (321hp)0-60: 2.4 3.20-100: 5 5.50-160: 12.2 12.50-200: 15 20.1Respect to the e36, it catches up with the m550d in the range from 100 to 160, but after that no chance.. here you can verify this://accelerationtimes.com/models/bmw-m550d-xdrive//accelerationtimes.com/models/bmw-m3-e36PS: send me a link to the data you are using, it seems off to me.Also, we weren't talking track time, M3 would obviously win. And lastly, as I said, the M3 e36 is most likely somewhere between 330xd and 335xd (f30).
+mal osmani M550d 2012 vs M3 E36 1995Verified Performance0-100 km/h 5.2/5.7s0-140 km/h 9.7/10.0s0-160 km/h 12.7/12.6s0-200 km/h 21.3/21.6s1/4 mile 13.5/13.8sTop speed 248/252 km/hHockenheim short 1:20/1:17So they're very identical with the m3 slightly faster on the track. M550 weighs about half a ton more and it shows..
The BMW M3 extremists commenting down below me are not doing the maths and
calculating the sums. The M3 has a 3.2 litre engine. The 320d has a 2.0
litre engine. Right... Now we are getting somewhere with the maths. The 3.2
litre engine has got six cylinders. The 2.0 litre engine has got four
cylinders. Now we've covered that bit. A much bigger engine with more
cylinders is usually more powerful then a smaller engine with less
cylinders. It doesn't take Albert Einstein to work it out. Plonk your arses
inside the seat of a BMW 335d (282ps) or a Mercedes C350 CDI (2011 onwards)
and the E36 M3 becomes nothing but a backwards travelling rusty old pile of
scrap that will blow its last head gasket trying to stay on their rear
bumpers. While the E36 farts loudly and drops it's bolts on the floor the
fully standard C350 CDI and 282ps 335d are disappearing into the sunset
enjoying the air conditioning and silence of a diesel at high speed while
the old BMW M3 is somewhere far behind dropping oil on the floor, Scraping
An Exhaust, Undressing Itself, Claiming No Victory As It Gets Left Behind
By A pair of diesels. The 335d is here folks so scrap your 30-yearold E36
sheds while the engines can start and send them down to your scrap dealer
now.
+RagingOrb Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise it was "Cool" to like petrols and "Uncool" to like diesels. Only I didn't hang around with the other 12 yearold tobacco smokers at school unlike some. Such a childish mentality seems to be demonstrated quite well with the likes of you. I don't need a particular engine sound to add spice into my life because if I did my life would almost be as sad as yours now wouldn't it? However my disagreement with the highly dangerous, highly flammable, outdated, petroleum fuel is here to stay and I don't fancy lowering myself to the same suspension level (As some of your modified chavalicious petrol cars) with incompetent, childish remarks. You people make me laugh you mention diesel being a louder running idle then a petrol and laugh at the clatter yet you enjoy raising the volume of your garden lawnmower putters with stupid exhaust pipes. One might ask why petrol cars get pulled over more then diesel cars because of decibel issues so that puts your theory in the trash can. I'm satisfied that diesel engines were used in Tractors just as you are equally satisfied to admit that petrol engines were used to power hedge strimmers and grass cutting equipment which puts their purpose under the agricultural sector too.
+1ns4ne1d10t also you do realise most petrols are quieter than diesels? :') just people who are interested in cars don't like their car muted, what kind of boring person likes that?
+1ns4ne1d10t guys look at this person, he is the definition of not a petrol/gearhead. yeah you're not a car guy at all haha. if you think a sweet sounding n/a v12, or a nice braap braap ;) rotary is a bad racket then you really aren't a petrol head. it's okay though it's just you, we the rest of us can enjoy our loud noises while you drive your boring diesel that you love that idles like a tractor in comparison ;)
So does petrol it puts me to sleep. Just more noise, a bigger fuss and a terrible racket just to reach the same power and speed. All this excitement over another type of internal combustion engine that only sits in a car. Next it'll be the volts and amps of shop rider shop mobility scooters. Which one gives you more driver involvement and thrill when riding through a shopping precinct.
+1ns4ne1d10t Diesels are boring, I have been in a 335d. yes they pull well, but they just put me to sleep, also they don't hold a candle to performance petrols. this is e36 engine is old vs new, not really a fair comparison.
+μπεκακος ευθυμιος As I said before: Remove the 6,000 RPM 'Extra Advantage' a petrol engine has over a Diesel with a Turbo and we will have a proper discussion. If you took the turbo charger AWAY from a diesel the comparison would still be unfair because a BMW petrol engine will still go 2,000 RPM higher. If I raced a 3.0 litre 'Pushrod' petrol engine against a 3.0 litre twin Camshaft/24v engine that wouldn't be fair either. Like I said until then... no further discussion.
No it doesn't seem fair enough to me. the 335d also has 2 cams,6cyl and 24 valves.And why to limit the M3 TO 4k's?It is not a batlle at certain rpm hp but a comparison between 2 n/a (if we can remove the t/c advantage from the 335) engines.Each one has it's technology and potential.A fair rival(if you insist to find one from the M division) for a machine such as the 335d is the new t/c,not so M,M3.
You also forgot to mention that the N/A M3 lifts past 6,000 RPM. And all the diesels are lucky to reach 4,000 RPM. You mention getting my equasions right but I don't think you realise it but Petrol is also generously 'assisted' or 'Boosted' by having Camshafts and valves i. Place which offer it a power range that spans out much much further then that of a Pushrod petrol engine. I'll tell you what... I'll happily remove the 335d turbo if you are willing to limit the M3 revolutions to 4,000 RPM by taking off the extra valves and camshaft 'Assistance' and reverting it to pushrod. I think that's fair don't you?
+1ns4ne1d10t You forgot to mention that the M3 is a N/A and all the diesels are T/C.So,if you want to get your equation right you have to put a turbo to the M3 or to remove it from the 335d and the merc.
+TheFunkyair İki çekim arasında yol ve hava şartlarına bakarsak farklılıklar var fakat 190'lık 420d gerçekten güzel gidiyor ve bu araç ekonomik bir araç olarak nam yapmış.
250km/h BMW 320d E90 Acceleration
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