this is part of this game i guess no?one way or another,some players out
there will deal better than the others when fighting against Viper/Latif or
anyother Viper players, IT S natural!Viper has a determinated set of skills
and of course some players will do against those skills better.Seems like
you expect Latif to perform Gief move!Latif makes 5000PP players to look
like they are just starting in SSF4.(in agreement with oShinAkumao).And of
course playing with Viper isnt for 'any1'.
Latif is amazing and far better than I'll ever be, but I get the feeling
watching the matches that he's a big fish in a small pond. Against
equally-skilled players who actually know the matchup and how to block
Viper's shenanigans, his random mixup tactics are far less effective.
There's vids of him against FChamp and Hugo101 where he barely gets a few
wins, and loses quite a lot. He's definitely on the rise tho, and I'm
anxious to see how he'll do against the top dogs at Final Round
@DemonicDragonY93 That's his "angry scar" move, it makes his next tiger
uppercut have the original big damage that it did in Vanilla [original SF4]
at the cost of an ex bar of course... it only does 100 damage otherwise in
SSF4... they did buff the TUppercut damage for Arcade Edition though, I'm
not sure what the damage is exactly though.
@tubeplayboy you haven't seen the videos of him vs Flash Metroid,
Wolfkrone, Double perfect on Rico Suave, Lamerboi, Alex Valle, Marn, K
BRAD, etc...this guy beats 5000 PP players like they were 3000 PP players,
he also placed at West Coast Warzone.
@DerEnglaenderJumper Bp dont mean shit dude, some people just dont play
ranked. I know guys that dont even own this game that could get a round on
Latif, it would prolly take a awhile though lol
@Ripsterrr Shin posted a video, Latif vs Air, and I believe Air is
japanese, isn't he ? Anyway, very nice matches, Latif is awesome with his
Viper, his Makoto isn't too bad either (AE)
Man, I would like to meet whoever programmed that bot! ..lol.. Was Latif
mad at someone? damn!
RZR Latif [Viper] SSF4 Endless Battle - Xbox Live - 03-04-11
Please note these games were a bit laggy, so nothing serious here, just casuals. 1. vs O50 CENT bUleTp [Bison] 2. vs SimplyPh33r [Rufus] 3. vs ZerRo I [Abel] 4.
so i was playing this guy online and all of the sudden Latif joins. The guy
then boots me because he doesnt want to take turns fighting Latif. Fucking
asshole. i swore vengance on that guy... i'm gonna find him irl and beat
the living shit out of him that douche. fuck that guy seriously
@ValicanX I love Latif, but I think Daigo would win based on the fact that
Daigo knows the Viper match waaay too well... Daigo doesn't like Bison/Abel
matchup, but then again, that's when he was with Ryu, so he might not
really dislike any matchup now that he's with Yun. Lol.
@Grimmjow316 He's on my friends list, and as far as the american replay
list, he has the best Juri along with WeirdoNeo... In fact, if you'd like
to see another one of his matches, check out my second channel. I have a
match uploaded of him vs Balrog.
@Grimmjow316 haha, it's not that i dislike him, i'm just not a big fan. :(
Lol...but i do enjoy watching top zangief players, like Vangief, Itabashi,
KOG, Cantona, etc, i respect them a lot, because i know it's not easy
playing with Gief.
@0ShinAkuma0 I saw that match as well which is why I recognized him quick
just wondered if he was active in the tournament scene, since I've rarely
seen Juri players aside from Neo & Ed Ma.
@Zinkboy123 yes, I think so, a lot of top Japanese players are as scary and
they are pretty much unknown to the international scene, so you will never
know until you met them
@Grimmjow316 Gotcha, well he's not really known on the tournament scene
like Neo and Ed Ma, but i think he definitely could be eventually if he
keeps it up with his Juri.
@gemstony85 If you don't like him then why are you watching vids of him
playing? lol. surely you have better things to do!? Being a Viper player, I
am a big fan of Latif but i actually agree that he can be a *little*
predictable when you watch lots of his vids (esp his EX seismo).. He did
very well at Evo but i worry people will figure out his style, Fuudo seemed
to read him very well in the final. Interesting to see what happens in
future tournaments.
Latif is the better player. some of the baits were just insane. but this
lilsic guy is fun to watch and he's really good. his cross-ups, hit
confirms, combos, links, karas, footsies and reactions are all on point.
but he plays at a constant 100mph. Latif just slowed him down. fun matches
though, thanks for the uploads.
@mellouk78 It does? I sure hope that's the case... it's sad to see someone
spamming DPs giving Latif trouble because of guessing whether he's mashing
DP or not. Oh, and the fact that Ken's LP SRK is HARD to punish. I sure
hope it gets nerfed.
@mxtra22 but the jab DP is fuckin insane lol. You know all of sf3 games as
far as i know,when you throw a jab DP randomly like this guy your fucked.
but not here in ssf4 :( and i agree with you, burning kicks are fucked up
as well.
@Sshsho yeah but still. I mean an unpunishable jab DP is really all u have
to complain about with Ken. Its not like its even used as an ultra setup.
Theres plenty characters out with just as much bs if not more.
Thx for the spoiler, now I don't have to watch the whole 18:39 of PJS
Latif's same shit over and over. (If I'm speaking too soon, someone point
out for me in which match he changes up his game...)
I dont get why people are complaining about jab DP when burn kicks
literally rapes everybody and is just as hard to punish. Get a life an stop
begging for nerfs.
@0ShinAkuma0 I still really enjoyed his play, at times hes a bit extreme
with psychic ultras but for the most part i think he plays it right, his
ken has combos, crosses, safe jumps and most importantly a random factor.
If viper atks recklessly, then so will ken. his dp beats out a lot of
viper's bks so its hard for her to pressure. lilsicx will keep doing it
until latif stops throwing out bks or lessens it. which he did at the end
baiting out dps, then lilsicx slowed it down too, adaptation!
@SonofGenkai18 im talking about, till the end of the match, not just that
round. he missed a few because they are random, and latiff got aware to
this and started baiting. just watch the round from 9:43, and look at all
those baited random dps. and a guess is random if u didnt know. the
important thing is dont throw them out on every guess or people will just
bait or wait. and sicx doesnt get clued to the fact they are now baiting
No need to bash lol I didn't know this set was going on youtube prior to
fighting I was using this set to relearn the match,I've beatin latif in
sets multiple times but I just didn't upload them to the net.but after me
and latif playd this set we playd another and he won.I duno y he playd me
but I was playing to learn a matchup so this is me learning as you can
tell,thx for the uploads tho shin good bad or godlike I don't mind it
The Ken player did exactly what is needed sometimes against Viper. If a
Viper gets comfortable enough doing feints and shit they'll walk all over
you, eventually open your defense up, and you're done. The majority of the
shoryukens you see are well thought out and meant to keep Viper from
picking up any momentum. The only thing more useful than a quick invincible
reversal in this matchup is the cr. mk to duck under burn kicks.
@yahoo1o1 not really random. 1 whiffed wake up DP which was a good guess
because Latif does pressure a lot on wake up. the rest were well placed
also. He missed a few but did them in good sense. Latif does a lot of mix
ups after M TK so it was smart to try and DP it. Anyway, lilsicx is a good
Ken player. I doubt any of his DPs are "random" just bad guesses once in a
while.
Aholes like g9ambit and others are the reason there aren't many kens out
there, the minute Ken starts doing SRK they outomatically think *mashing*
or Ramdon, mofo, ever heard about BUILDING METER.. U aholeeee.... Viper
stresss me to no end with them flame kicks .. So why aren't those consider
ramdom or spamming? Fking Noob!
@TheChain89 I agree, i think that is lilsicx's biggest weakness, he guesses
a bit too much, a little too risky, and it costs him a lot, especially vs
someone like Latif...that being said, i still feel he's the best Ken right
after Banana Ken, if lilsicx played a bit more safely, he'd probably be the
best.
@MrRafie82 Yipes def. had a great Ken, but used Ken a loooong time ago,
back in Vanilla, just like Ed Ma... He uses Abel and Bison now, when he
actually does play SSF4... In reality, Yipes could care less about SSF4,
he's a Marvel player at heart.
You can either reversal SRK after a knockdown or you can eat Viper pressure
and keep trying to guess and keep getting knocked down. Enjoy getting
perfected/dizzied as the momentum switches completely to his playstyle and
pressure game.
the ken is good, but this sort of flowchart ken strategy is only effective
online. if they were playing offline ken would have been blown up, the
amount of random srk punishes available was crazy.
@0ShinAkuma0 He uses Adon now? Didn't know that. Well I have seen his Ken
and it's dangerous. Even Sanford Kelly commented on how great his Ken is.
Don't forget Yipes has a nice Ken as well.
Easymode mash bullshit that deals with every situation, great keep-away
game, pretty much no flaws as a character... shitty players are drawn to
him like moths to a flame, for good reason.
Hey shin, who are your favorite Viper and Ken players? I'm probably going
to use Viper and Ken as subs to Sakura in AE. Thanks for all the grea HD
uploads. You're the man!
@0ShinAkuma0 Nice. This Evo is going to be amazing. Considering how the
long the game has bin out & how much everyone has leveled up & is familiar
with the game.
I noticed when latif sjc from ex seismo, he does down forward to up forward
motion. Is there an advantage to doing this rather than downback to up
forward?