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If the catcher is in the baseline, to avoid collision, the runner would
have to go outside the line and would therefore by rule be out.
Therefore that was a clean play.
+Michael Clark = I know, I know. But I am happy to forgive you...no one is perfect. I'm sure you're a lot more embarrassed now that you've had time to research baseball rules concerning this kind of play. Next time I suggest you read the rulebook first, not last.Blessings
+Michael Clark = Like most people who wax eloquent about that which they know NOTHING, you are obviously (1) completely ignorant of basic baseball rules; and (2) not an umpire.Other than these minor issues, you ROCK !
+dniceo7 During a sliding situation I fully agree with you, no doubt about that. However, if the fielder is that far away from either a bag or the plate and thus no slide can be performed to begin with then it becomes an issue of interference which this clearly was. Blocking the plate is one thing but the catcher was up the line leaving the runner no choice. If he slid he would have been well short of the plate.
the rules state that the runner has to make all contact below the waist. That's what the rules say. The rules are the rules period was The Catcher in the Baseline? Answer yes he was. Did the runner attempt to contact below the waist no he did not. Outcome Runner out for flagrant contact
Contact above the waist? I have never seen a play like this with contact
initiated below the waist. So the runner has to slide if the catcher is in
the baseline? That's stupid.
Very simple answer here... the rule was in place in HS and College before
the pros... There must be a lane for the baserunner, or a path to the
plate... Plays like this one and Buster Posey's injury caused this to be
put in play. Runners are never allowed to run down a catcher, but in this
case they are both in the wrong. Runner must slide, or avoid contact and
the catcher must allow for a lane to the plate. Ball or not...
+Joseph Notaro Where was the runner supposed to slide? The throw is up the third base line and the catcher is in the basepath trying to field the throw.
+Joseph Notaro If a fielder interferes with a runner's line anywhere else on the field the runner is safe by default due to interference. Why would it be any different at home? It makes absolutely no sense. I can see if the catcher has the ball the contact must be initiated below the waist but when the catcher doesn't have the ball if he is in the base line he is interfering with the progress of the runner.
+Joseph Notaro The thing is the runner can't reasonably avoid this collision. Sliding at that point will likely result in coming up short. The catcher was quite a bit up the line.
+Joseph Notaro Thank you. There are waaayyy too many idiots unaware of the rules for these leagues. I hear the machismo "get off the baseline" crap alllll the time, but that only applies in the pros. Know the rules of the league and play by them. If you don't feel like it, then find a different league, get your drunk dad to stop instructing you and lay off the 'roids.
Hey, here's an idea. Get off to one side of the line or the other! The
catcher put both players at risk by being in exactly the wrong spot. How
about some coaching from somebody!
+Thomas King You stand to one side or the other and sweep tag the guy. Standing in the line and getting trucked is unsafe, serves no purpose, and shows terrible lack of coaching. This is a college kid, he should have been taught this years ago.
If the catcher has possestion of the ball he is allowed to block the baseline. Its the runners job to slide at the plate. If the runner collides with the catcher and the ball was dropped, it can be called safe or out. Out if the colision could have been avoided. If no then the runner is safe. If the catcher did not have possetion of the ball and he blocks the baseline the runner is safe by default.
+TheDeadman342 but the catcher did not have the ball. Also to me anyways, it seems like it would be harder for a runner to bend down to strike below the waistline of the catcher as it will throw off the runners balance. The catcher on the other hand is moving slower and is not likely to lose balance. Just saying it seems like the rules are a little backwards or the rule just wasn't explained properly to me.
That is an option but by rule if the catcher has the ball he can block the plate. If the catcher does not have the ball, he has to move. But the runner can be called out if the collision was on perpose. If the contact wasn't then its the home plate umpire. And I know I might seem like a smart ass. But these are the rules.
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