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Bernie Sanders Draws Largest Crowd Yet In Phoenix | Morning Joe | MSNBC
Over the weekend, Bernie Sanders drew an estimated 11000 people at a rally in downtown Phoenix. The Morning Joe panel discusses what makes Sanders' ...
same stuff happened with Ron Paul... you guys are delusional if you think
the Clinton establishment will relinquish the reigns to this guy. False
hope breeds false hope
+Panchee123 I am not so sure of that... The GOP have some ultra conservative guys.The Democrats well they have been scared shitless over their own shadow, for reasons unknowen...But in a way you are right, but that is to be expected from a two-party system
+Panchee123 That was not buying a point... it was what the man said.Regarding the point you make that it is not feasible, we already have quit a large sample of data... It is not an issue (regarding cost), and there is a few easy reasons... First the system Pre-Obama care, was much more expenciv... If we look at the way the system is made now, it is pretty good (cost wise), regarding the personal tuch... well it is a shame, but in real life, it could not work in the citys (to many people, to few doctors), and that is where most live. If he had another point with it, like you say he had, then he should have said it at the time... The point is, he did not talk to the voters in a way that they would follow him... (he also happen to be wrong on other stuf but that is beside the point)... If Bernie Sanders makes the same kind of mistakes, then he might well lose the voters, however
no , not really the point. You may not remember but we used to have cash based doctor visits. The relationship between patient and doctor was very personal and the cost was much lower. ridiculously lower. The ACA is the opposite of that. No one wished anyone to die. Dont buy into the mainstream garbage. Now i will say this, Iffraud were addressed more vigorously in the healthcare industry I waould be on board...but sadly too many people take advantage of the system. In a nation of 350 million, it just isnt feasible to have the ACA as a fully functional thing. You will see
+Panchee123 That he did not do... or should I say, that was not the contreversy...It was more of point that people should die, if they did not have enough for their insurance
+bandholm nah , he just addressed the insolvency of social security and the scam that it is. the crumbs that the govt throws at you or shall I say grants you as the good serfs we are , rae just that, crumbs, but only after they take more and more and more..............................
+Panchee123 True, but Ron Paul made a small scandal, by going against femal choise and social security... When that happened the voters started to go away...Sanders happen to have a record of things most people wants in a politican... He might loss... He might win the white house
+Panchee123 False hope is better than no hope, Bernie is our best candidate by far. More and more people are starting to see through the bullshit, we will win if people get up off their ass and show their family and friends what the corporate bought media isn't showing about people like Bernie. If you'd rather sit on the sidelines and cry about it that's your choice but don't try to dissuade the rest of us still willing to fight. #berniesanders2016 #feelthebern
+Panchee123 Hillary got beat by a guy running on progressive ideals. However, Obama's past showed he was a centrist corporatist and he turned out to be a centrist when he became president. Bernie has been on the progressive side of things since he was in college.History has given us many different ways this can play out. As long as people vote for who they want to win, rather than who they think will win, we wouldn't typically have to worry about unpopular candidates winning.