This will hopefully fuel the endless, retarded debating which is taking place on every single boxing-related video. Tyson or Ali? Who would you pick? Who gives ...
Guys -- We're talking about one guy (Ali) who is about three times as smart
as the other (Tyson). Ali would have taken one look at Tyson, read him like
a book, and figured out exactly what to say, and keep saying, and keep
saying, to get so deep under Tyson's skin that he'd be on a psychiatrists
couch. By fight time, Tyson would be tied up in so many mental knots that
he wouldn't know whether to shit or wind his wrist watch. He'd forget all
he ever knew about bxing, and Ali would take him apart.
He hits hard but ali has the best chin the business. Tyson is not a hard
puncher. he is a superb accurate solid puncher. Tyson skill is his supreme
balance and punching angles. Ali took hard shots from forman, shavers,
lyle. massive punchers that hit much much harder than tyson and was never
knocked out. only down a few times. Ali was supect to a hard fast left hook
which tyson delivered but you have to look at size difference> Ali is
taller, heavier, stronger. and faster. never know 4 sure .lol
ali had SPEED, and speed usually neutralizes power. And tyson said to have
a lung problem (from tyson documentary), and was thankful his fights didnt
last long. Ali NEVER got ko'd and, during his later years, defeates the
most powerful punchers during boxings golden age (shavers, foreman,
frazier). So you cant tell me that tyson can even come close to beating
him.If ali takes tyson to the later rounds,ali wins hands down.He knew how
to beat every opponent he faced, and this wont be any diffrent
@fktheworld1 ali was poor and he was willing to go to jail for his faith ,
i personally dont agree with muslims but he still was going jail for the
cause , he wasnt a shit muslim he was just unhappy he couldnt eat in a
resturaunt after his olympic win , all whites/ no blacks.. for the most
famous man in the world thats a fair arguement ? ..u should have a little
chat to yourself and noticed cus made tyson , ali had brains and
power/spedd ..tyson hasnt a look in mate !! plus cus had an interview
I really like Tyson and Ali....but i know that Ali would win a fight
between them....he just to smart and he always won VS big punchers ...And i
really think he would use he good reach and hand speed...Tyson would have a
problem just to get close to Ali....i mean you could see that Tyson had
problems VS fighters with the same style as Ali...and Ali is 100 times
better then any opponet that Tyson have had. And Ali fought in a muich
better era then Tyson. Anyway it is 2 of my favourite fighters.
Tyson is nowhere near as powerful as Foreman, Ron Lyle, sonny Liston. Ali's
foot speed and hand speed is far superior to Tyson's and this would tell in
the fight. A prime Ali would beat Tyson 9 of 10 times. Larry Holmes, who
fought both, summed it up for me. quote " If Tyson had been around in the
70s when heavyweight boxing was at its peak with Ken Norton, Joe Frazier,
George Foreman, Muhammad Ali, you would of never heard of Mike Tyson. I
believe that but I guess we will never know before.
I'm a big Tyson Fan, and an Equally big Ali fan. All I can say is Tyson got
beat by Buster Douglas. Ali was light years better than Buster. Ali had
mucho trouble with Frazier in his first fight, this worries me about Ali's
chances with a similar boxer in Tyson. But I say Ali by knockout in a late
round. Tyson loses his amazing powers if his opponents aren't scared of him
and put up a fight (Mitch Green, a poor "Ali clone" went the distance). So
if Ali made it pass Five Rounds, Tyson loses.
Tyson is the only person who I think Ali may have problems with. Overall,
Tyson is a better fighter than Liston, Fraizer, and Foreman. Ali did well
against stronger opponents, but tyson has more than just incredible
strengh. At his peak, he had speed, strengh, and boxing skills in abudence.
It would all boil down to whether Tyson could catch Ali in 12 rounds. Ali
would have to throw alot of punches to knock out tyson, but I feel tyson
would catch him in 12 rounds. Tyson for me at his peak
You have to land the power first, Liston and Formen can tell you that. Yeah
Tyson is faster but not faster than Ali. You don't land on Ali by trying to
outspeed him you beat him by punishing him to the body round after round
untill you slow him down like Frazier did. Mike didn't have the stamina for
that. Also, Tyson has landed his power on less game and quick fighters than
Ali and still failed to knock them out. Look at how many times he landed on
Tillis. The bums went right out though
This is a tough decision..... Ali has amazing accuracy and his movements
were almost flawless and i cant forget to mention his crazy speed! But
Tyson has brute force behind his punches unlike Ali. Tyson also has speed
and he's very good at dodging punchs and he has great stamina, but Ali is
still far more faster than Tyson but not enough force to really do any
signifcant damage to Tyson. Honestly I think Tyson would win. Ali is
actually my favorite boxer but Tyson has unbelivable power.
and Tyson said he thought Ali would take the punishment because he was hit
by harder punchers. Do you really think that guys like James Tillis and
Tony Tucker could last with prime Tyson but Ali can't?! Accuracy will
matter if Tyson can land enough on Ali but trying to outspeed Ali is the
wrong way to fight him, he is faster. That is why Frazier broke him down to
the body round after round so that he could slow him down and go for the
head. He knocked him down in the 15th round.
Tyson supporters...allow me to whisper something in your ear (as Ali was
famous for doing in the clinch) Sonny Liston 35-1 (27 by KO) George Foreman
40-0 (37 by KO) Now lets see how good my addtion is...75 wins and 1 loss
was the combined record of both of these HW Champions before they ran into
Ali. I also submit that that Ali was in charge of both men from start to
finish, and both were KNOCKED OUT!!! This should clear things up for those
of you who are blatantly uninfrormed
The pre-Robin Givens Tyson would fare better than the post Givens Tyson
against Ali better. Both the pre and post draft Ali would beat Tyson
Handily due to the fact he was a pure boxer and Tyson was a Power boxer.
The pre draft Ali would just have to play keep away and Jab Tyson wearing
him down. The Post draft Ali would out think Tyson by making Tyson punch
himself out by playing the ropes. The Pre draft Ali would beat the
PreGivens Tyson by maybe about the 4th or 5th round.
who would win between ali and tyson? that is such a ridiculous question.
whoever could seriously ask that knows nothing about boxing. clearly tyson
had difficulty with guys who boxed and was a sucker for an uppercut. that
was proven long before lennox lewis exploited it. true, he was a lot better
with kevin rooney as his trainer but ali took punches from guys like
foreman and shavers who hit much harder than tyson. oh, and the competition
in ali's era--a thousand times better
OK every one is saying if ali gets hit then he is going down, highly doubt
that, ali could take a hit look at his fight with sonny liston. liston
(that man was a beast he hit like a tank) cheated he couldnt even see he
could basicly had to rely on his brains and his ability to take a hit, and
if he did fight tyson at his prime ali's reflexs probly would of made it
very hard for him to get hit, never forget that ali was very technical
probly would have exploited the upper cut
they both are great fighters. ali can fight all round, hands down, mr mike
tyson is full of natural skill power and he uses leverage to ko! people.
ali will ko! u wen u wont expect it. we can argue all day long but im sure
ali and tyson respect each other cuz they muslim bros and champions of
their error. tyson is a mean lookin bad man and ali is funny and
entertaining. float like a butterfly and sting like a bee. wat! man praise
to b on allah. the greatest of all times. . T
True enough, everyone thought Ali would be brutalized by Formen and he
ended up knocking him out. But Formen didnt have the accuracy Mike does,
but like you said Mike doesnt have the stamina to last with Ali but I think
personally that he wouldn't need it, I think that mike would start off by
giving Ali a nice power combo and while Ali was winded he would go for the
knock out and probably succeed. Even Ali himself said once that he thought
Mike would win if they both fought.
Yeah but Tyson isn't as mean as Foreman. Watch Foreman vs Frazier. Foreman
utterly demolishes Frazier in two rounds and literally lifts him off the
canvas with one punch, I don't know if anyone besides Ali could have
survived Foreman at that point. The reason Frazier was a challenge to Ali
was because he fought Ali in the right way, something that Tyson would be
unable to do because of his low work ethic. if he dosen't get it done in
five or six rounds, he slacks.
Every sport moves forward with advances in sports science, training
techniques and match strategies. Ali was the greatest fighter of his time;
but times have changed. At the peak of his career he was the only
heavyweight who was capable of that type of speed. These days even the
bigger, slower guys in the weight division are a shit load faster than the
bigger guys of the 60's and 70's. I'm a huge Ali fan, but I sitll think
Tyson would have the edge.
this is what will happen early: ali will dance and tyson will come off as
furocious as he always is. all ali would do is stick him with the jab and
keep moving.If tyson allows ali to play mind games, dance and play, tyson
will be in trouble. if ali gets caught in the fury, ali will be in
trouble.But hes just too smart. all ali has to do is prevent the head
shots, cuz he can take body punches better than anyone (watch the rumble in
the jungle).
its pretty easy to see how this would go. tyson was very powerful but he
got his best shots in when the opponent would get in close. he would hook
the opponents face off. but as we saw from tysons losses if you stay
outside he had a lot of trouble and Ali was the master of staying outside
and dancing in and out of strikes. 23% chance tyson KOd ali from a quick
heavy hook in first 3rds 77% chance Ali wears him down. but it could go
either way.
And Ali beat him twice, so that negates your argument. You really need to
go watch the second Sonny Liston fight...where Ali KO's him with a freaking
left jab. In fact, go watch all his fights...and notice Ali never loaded or
swing from the heels up to throw a KO punch. Those bombs he threw were
straight rights and lefts. Not hooks or haymakers. That my friend, is real
punching power. And it's precisely why he's the best of al time.
not reallyy... they say tyson has more power the Frazier... and Ali had a
tough challenge agenst Joe Frazier... Tyson had 1 of the most powerful and
speed punches in boxing history... only reason Tyson don't have stamina is
that he has a breathing problem.. i fink when Cus is alive and Tyson in his
prime... would k.o Ali in 4th round... if Ali gets passed 4th round then
Ali wins by UD.. fair enough?
@fktheworld1 shouldnt go raping girls then .. fuckin idiot its his fault!!
ali hadnt a choice in the matter .. the government go him revoked from
boxing into the army .. no other celebrity or athlete had to go with alis
status.. it was because he was getting too much attention and friends with
malcolm ex... so no i dont feel bad for tyson .. i feel for ali !!
ali has way more power than tyson ... tyson just used hooks.... ali's
storngest punch was the jab , and the jab is the number one punch thrown in
a game... so hands down ali would win because he has reach over mike tyson
and tyson would be gettin pounded by ali's jab..... ya mike tyson might get
a couple hits in .. but in ali's prime hands down ali would win
Styles do make fights and prime Tyson was not good against taller boxer
punchers (Tucker, Tillis)and the ones he fought were no where near Ali's
elite level . I think Ali would have been too much for Tyson.. Tillis took
LOTS of clean shots from Tyson and didn't get KOed, and Ali is far too fast
for Tyson to catch him even half as often as he caught Tillis.
they are both the best of their times..tyson never got the proper respect
he deserves ...due to his crazy personality. ali was an inelegant fighter
and an artist,,but tyson's power would over whelm ali. poor tyson lost to
lenx lewis, one of the shitty boring fighters ever. Mike would have
flattened him if he was in his prime.
I like Ali too Have a lot of DVD's on him, however I think mike would of
broken him. Little Joe Frazier was a hard task for Ali. Ali's best fight
was rumble in the jungle beating Forman. That fight broke Ali I feel. Tyson
was much faster than ali in both their primes. Even Ali agrees Tyson would
kill him.
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Most of these are mainstream shit...only Kill Bill one is actually quite
hardcore, but even that scene carries rather comic relief in itself,
despite quite intensive fighting scene! The rest are just junk for
teenagers, who loves watching two female characters with big boobs fighting
out, even if it means just basic rolling, pins and choking...For the most
part they don't even care for the quality, neither for the intensity of
particular fighting scene! Its like that - they see semi naked chick duking
it out with another semi naked chick - the fap! LOL And thats it...
Wanna see REAL top-10? Go check all those early Hong-Kong production
chinese movies from 70s -80s! If THIS impresses you, then i courage you to
check out those stuff! Most specifically the likes of Cynthia Rothrock,
Karen Sheperd, Yukari Oshima, Kim Maree Penn, Michelle Yeoh (Her eraly
stuff!), Sophia Crawford, Angela Mao, Marjean Holden and off course i
couldn't miss the one and only - Moon Lee! These are all women with actual
skills mind you! Its not your average joe big boob model, that got her ways
through sleeping with rich producer, who owns half of the Hollywood! LOL
The only modern stars that barely stand out are - Zoe Bell and Katee
Sackhoff! Sure thing those names might not be double "A" or even triple "A"
title heroines, that everyone know of and heard, but if we're talking about
actual top-10 then...you catched my drift!...