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Dude, you can do this in Sony Pro in 10 seconds flat. Sure there are things
that Premiere does well, but overall it's the least intuitive NLE there is.
No match for Sony's workflow.
But then, there goes the idea of a one-stop solution (with minimal compromising). :)So, erm, let me try to sum up the way some of you guys out there do your edits: You edit in Premiere, then you do your grading in Resolve, then you move the project over to AE for more post and titling, and finally you go back to Premiere, again, in order to open your project inside Audition to do your sound design? That's too much of a hassle. I'm sure some of mentioned apps do accept project files from various other applications, but in most cases you'll have to pre-render, I think - and that's something I never liked. Some detail always gets lost in the process. Which I guess is not so much of an issue for folks working with high-end cameras and such, but for the rest of us who shoot on a budget, that - in addition to double MP4 compression (your own + the one by YT, Vimeo, FB etc..) makes for some seriously noisy imagery (ergo, I always add some grain to make it look like that's what I wanted and it makes digital noises more bearable). And it looks 'warmer'. Red Giant's ''Magic Bullet Looks'' (tacky name but a powerhouse of a ''grader'') is something I can wholeheartedly recommend. As a stand-alone app, or inside Premiere (or better, Sony! :D .. It's got masses of cool (adjustable) pre-sets (to your left) and all the grading tools you may possibly need (to your right). And even some lens-correction etc... Your choice: whether you choose to grade from scratch or use a pre-set ''Look'' to get you started. And you can even animate (key frame) your grades (good for tracking shots with varried background and such). I'm not saying you're wrong. A purpose-made tool will always do a better job than the same tool inside a 'whole package' - my point is this though: why complicate things if the tool inside some package does a pretty decent job, and rivals the purpose-made one, AND is less frustrating to use and saves you a lot of time? P.S. Much like Adobe's Audition, Sony too has its ''Sound Forge''.. but because Vegas Pro is already jam-packed with some excellent sound design/polishing tools, you never feel like you need Sound Forge or any other app, in order to do your sound. You never leave your workspace. It truly is an all-in-one one-stop a/v production application that you can't help but fall in love with. Frustration and fuss-free, extremely powerful (your imagination is its only limitation) and everything you need to know when you power it up is that ''S'' is for splitting and ''F11'' for 'Track View'. (re-assignable of course). You'll make edits in it after less than 2 min of fiddling, and that's not something you can say about Premiere.So, a steeper learning curve does not necessarily equal better productions, nor does it necessarily justifies the invested time.. sometimes, it's juts a waste of time. No offence. :) P.P.S. Often-used effects, like fades and cropping should not be westwards in 'some' effects bin, but on a piece of footage/still itself. Sony's trimmer alone is enough to persuade anyone to ditch Premiere. In/out points?? Pffft... grab, drag and drop! Slip/slide edit? No probz. If you guys only knew. :D
I suppose I could say the same to you. It does not hurt to try a real color grading program instead of an automated one. Warning though-- it's quite a learning curve. But suit yourself. :)
Thought you might say that! :) But why promote a retiring software without mention its successor, namely: The Catalyst (a step back for Sony). Us Vegas editors call it a joke. So, unfortunately, in a couple of years from now I'll have to succumb to either Adobe ransomware or Media Composer. Because Edius and FC X blow. And (good) plug-ins are helpful! They do the basics for ya. Or are you taking forever to finish a project? The only people you'll impress with days spent on color-grading are the people in the bizz who avoid watching other editors' creations, because most clients are happy with flat-looking imagery. Unless of course you're working on a short or similar, in which case I'd understand the time invested in grading and such. So who knows, I might hit you up in a couple of years, for some tips in Premiere! :) Unless the folks at Sony come to their senses and keep Vegas Pro alive (its retirement is still only rumour-based but very likely). You can still download a 30 day trial of Vegas Pro 13 form Sony Creative Software. Fully-functional. Give it a week and you'll fall in love with it.
I beg to differ. A well put-together piece of software (or anything else) should be as user-friendly as humanly possible. Regardless of the end-user's skills or the lack thereof. Speaking of Premiere, even for a simple fade in-out one has to look inside the ''effects bin'' - and that's ridiculous. Even cropping is an ''effect'' in Premiere. A real pain in the rear if you're working on a product-photography video or a collage. All Adobe software needs a total revamp (under the bonnet). The interface looks the part, but the beauty is skin deep. And it's too heavy a load on any PC. As for color grading, Red Giant's ''Colorista'' and a few more tools (all packed inside its Bullet Looks) do anything Resolve does, and again, in a fraction of a time - drag/drop/quick tweak. Whether you use it as a stand-alone app or as a plug-in (works with all major NLEs and that's including Sony Pro). And it's actually Sony Vegas Pro. I was gonna say ''Get to know it and you'll wonder how you ever did without it'' but sadly, it seems like Sony is discontinuing it. v13 is still good for a few years, but I will miss it. You can even save a ''chain of effects'' in Sony (say 'Unsharpen Mask' + 'Sharpen' + 'Levels' + 'Grain' + 'X' + 'X' + 'X' ) with all of them set to default settings, and save it as 'My Basics' (or whatever) - and by dropping this ''Chain Of Effects'' on a piece of footage you add multiple effects (which you use anyway) at once, having only to quickly adjust the values of each effect (or not at all!). How's that for intuitive? :) Plus, it's an excellent audio editor, too. Because of its roots (Sonic Foundry). Nothing else out there comes even close when it comes to Sony's workflow. And that's a fact.
+TravAlma Understood. I've resorted to using a wheelchair as a dolly and you make do with a low-to-no budget. When someone comes on and tells me that the Premiere is "the least intuitive NLE there is", I'll have to suggest the go to something easy like Windows Movie Maker or iMovie. I have worked in post production for over 20 years and haven't heard of "Sony Pro", but I am guessing it's more intuitive, because it does a lot of the work for you-- which is fine, if it gets the job done. My coloring software of choice is Resolve. It's not because of the name. I've used it on many projects. It's not intuitive by any means... and for good reason. You have ultimate control over the color grading.It's not always the case, but usually with intuitiveness, you're give up a certain level of control. And with that control, comes a higher learning curve.
Colour isolation is a pretty straightforward affair in Sony. And so it should be. Secondary C-C, Desaturate, Invert, pick a colour...and hey presto. With 'Smooth' (luma, sat., hue) being the only extras. Works like a charm, every time.If Davinci Reslove was named Magix Super Color Correction DeLuxe chances are it wouldn't be praised by self-proclaimed pros the way it has been. :) The very people who always list the gear they use in the descriptions of videos they make. Perhaps I too would do that, if I wasn't using a wheelchair as a dollie. :D I'll always be in favour of a one-stop, decently 'armed' and intuitive NLE like what Vegas is, not to mention its super-fast workflow. Sure it lacks certain tools, but that pushes you to improvise and think outside the box- which is what 'assembling video footage' (Hitchcock) should be all about.
+TravAlm It also takes amount the same amount of time in Davinci Resolve. So are you saying that Sony "Pro" is better than Resolve for color correction? If it does it in 10 seconds, it sounds to me like there is a lot of automation and lack of absolute control. As a professional colorist, I prefer ultimate control over automation.
Hello chinfat. Great video though, but something seems very wrong to me. I
am an architecture student and only recently I started to be interested on
video editing. I love-love-love the way photoshop works, and I thought that
tools such as localization of a color-selection would be right on top of
premiere. You somehow spared 16 minutes in this really nice tutorial to
demonstrate something that should be simple.
Do you thing that the fact that I find this odd implies that premiere is
not for me? Or at least, is there an other program that is more powerful on
those tasks, such as AF?
If you have the time let me know, as in this context I find premiere quite
inefficient.
+chinfat Thx you a lot, you really helped me. I was to check your newer playlist on premiere pro 2015, but that came handy. Eventually due to my profession, I am thinking of learning also AfterEffects. Premiere seems quite dull on the idea of masking and selecting either specific color or a region. In any case, it is great for editing, and your tutorials have been the best.
+NoName When I did this tutorial, Premiere was quite inefficient with color correction. This process from the 2014 software was a bit tedious. With the new Lumetri panel in the 2015 updates, it has become a lot faster and easier in Premiere. Keep in mind, Premiere is not optimized as a color correction software... it is an editor. I highly recommend using Davinci Resolve (which is now free) or Adobe SpeedGrade. Those programs are optimized color correction software. Here is a link to the new Lumetri panel. This addition has actually made me stay in Premiere for a few projects to do quick and nice-looking color grades. https://youtu.be/4JZlVS9hM6M?list=PLOVqmUlWq2N_uQxCIrZyOk0RALwCtZrui
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