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Philosophy, Fantasy, and Science Fiction: C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy (Lecture 4)
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I was thinking about this dying of religion question. As always after
watching one of your lecture I opened some sites about thinkers, culture,
etc. I stumbled upon this site:
//www.icr.org/article/creative-evolution-anti-darwin-theory-won-nobel/
and this sentences:
Bergson used "detailed scientific arguments as well as philosophical ones"
to support his view and gained many followers among well-educated
intellectuals, [...] The theory did not gain lasting followers among
naturalistic biologists, though, and his theory of origins has now been
abandoned, largely due to a lack of empirical evidence.
Thinking in this way If religion was a theory it could be abandoned at some
point. After all it is generally speaking some sort of system of thoughts
and Believes. But in other hand empirical evidence in many cases are hard
to come by in modern science... Struggle between imagination and things
that can be described by "algebra" will be constantly present i suppose.
Remark about "P.K. Dick's shelf" got me thinking ;)
I have a bonus question ;)
I am currently reading everything there is in my library about William
Blake. Would you consider in the future some "lectures" about him? Thinking
about this lecture in general and about those paragraphs from trilogy I was
reminding myself of mythos Blake had created :)
+tehdii I would consider doing lectures on Blake, but I have so many other projects lined up or projected, that it would be a while before I'd get to them
As Lewis folds his learning into his writing, even the Narnia ones, you use
your learning and study of the past to help unpack the relevance of both
areas to us in this disturbed modern era. Thanks for taking time & sharing
your enthusiasm with us all.
Currently watching this while devouring 10 (yes, 10) Burger King savers
burgers (5 chicken burgers, 5 cheese burgers, all for $10).
I'm double orgasming.
+Hugo von Hoffmanstahl That's a lot of burgers. I think I could eat 10 White Castle, when I'm hungry, but probably not 10 Burger Kings
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why answer a pointless question like that, it's up to him..you already knew
the answer anyway because atheists go to extraordinary lengths to know
about him and slander him like you did. i spoke to an atheist once who said
that bc WLC said something in 1992, that means he must be lying 20 years
later when he has a slightly different opinion! & you expect him to fuck
about and answer off-topic questions like that just so that you can laugh
at it or something. no shame, where's humanity, all gone.
i couldn't care less about vagueness, i was complaining about the
slander/libel, so i only mentioned vagueness to give you an opportunity to
make it clear if there was any justification, which you haven't done. also
wrong about evolution if you're speaking about the idea that it in fact
happened & accounts for all diverse life--that is a million miles from
empirical science, it's a massive extrapolation; it could be justified as
our best theory, we can discuss if you like, but that's all really.
if you criticised "his work" which is equally vague as "about him" then
fine, but you said he was lying which IS about him & is slander [or libel
bc typed, idk]--unless YOU can prove it. evolution is by definition
speculative. there could be good evidence for some or all aspects of it,
but no kind of proof for the whole theory if that's what you mean. &
obviously you don't really think 'telling someone' constitutes knowledge
for the person told. be more specific if you like, otherwise=pointless.
"Why is it wrong to a kill a person?" If you kill a person within the group
you are in it weakens the group. If you kill someone who is attempting to
harm the group you are in then it is within the group a moral act as it
benefits the survival of the group. "What is your objective morality based
on other than your opinion" - Whether an action is ultimately beneficial to
the group we are taking into consideration. Why is rape wrong? it damages
an individual, trust is lost. Weakening the group.
" Whether an action is ultimately beneficial to the group we are taking
into consideration." are beneficial actions always moral? So ultimately
your "objective" morality is based on not damaging the gene pool of a given
group? Am I right to assume that in your moral system, a person's value is
solely determined by the usefulness of their genes? Would it be moral to
commit infanticide on children that are predisposed to psychopathic
behaviors? This would be an efficient way to minimize crime..
"Morality is relative in atheistic world view." Actually, no. I'm an
atheist, and I believe that morality is objective. As in, morality is what
is most beneficial for a group. Therefore morality can vary between groups,
depending on size or circumstance, but we can definitively say that an
action could be the most beneficial (even if only in heinsight) and
therefore that action is the most moral. This explains why rape, murder,
theft and certain lies are immoral. Doesn't require subjectivity.
cont. God, on the other hand, is not a computer made by people, having
finite capabilities, abilities and properties. If you are talking about
some entity that has any of those features you aren't talking about God,
you're talking about a human concept. Of course whenever we're talking
about God we're talking about a human conception of God just as we can only
talk about human conceptions of the universe. What you say was Wolpert's
point couldn't be more pointless or more banal due to that
But let me take these examples further: You are right, some cultures kill
their children based on sexuality in China for example, this is to have a
boy which are thought to bring more pride to the family. But despite them
(or some of them) thinking this is moral I will explain why from the
definition I gave previously it is not. It damages the gene pool, decreases
the amount of one sex making overall reproduction rates fall. Not to
mention the waste of life. It overall weakens the group.
By your own logic you refuted yourself -- how logical. But does logic lead
to atheism? Harldy, but it does lead to: 1. Things pop into being from
nothing (worse than magic) - Krauss 2. The denial of free will (but he
believes moral duties are objective?) - Harris 3. The universe brought
itself into being (logically incoherent) - Dennet 4. There is no good or
bad (but he claims religion is bad?) - Dawkins I think it is more accurate
to say that atheism leads to an incoherent world view.
You describe your atheism accurately. You simply reject God, and ignore all
the implications of this rejection. Similarly, I could reject the
heliocentric universe and be perfectly complacent about it, and say "I
don't have a belief system; I just reject the heliocentric universe, and
leave it at that". I could then have a wildly incoherent practical belief
system, (i.e. I believe in cell-phones, but not quantum mechanics on which
the tech is based) and not care about the incoherence.
@utubepunk Actually pointless point taken. From all that I said you chose
to reply about a website I couldnt access. A website that proves nothing. I
gave you a website that explains most of these "contradictions." All of
this is besides the point. You want someone to prove God exists. Prove that
theres a Creator of everything that exists. Once someone does that then you
should speak about the Bible whether it says this or that.You problem is
actually believing nothing begins to exist
@utubepunk Zeus' parents werent the creators of the universe. There was
"nothing" called Chaos and it gave birth to the first goddess, Gaia. Making
her caused. To be the Creator of the universe you must be uncaused,
beginningless. To even support Greek mythology you must believe "nothing"
was the cause of everything. God by definition is eternal. He exists
necessarily. Nothing about Him suggests He cant. The universe however has
reasons why it can't be eternal. Theres no contradiction
@utubepunk There is so much wrong with what you just said. First, God is
eternal by definition. He never began to exist. He has always existed.
Meaning uncaused. Second, nothing just begins to exist? So you're telling
me the Big Bang Theory is wrong which says that all matter and energy even
space and time came into being at the time of the Big Bang? Really? Even
thermodynamics suggests matter and engery isn't eternal. Lastly no reason
was given why God can't create matter and energy.
@utubepunk Answers your KCA revision:
reasonablefaith(DOT)org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8846 Okay, this is
where you've lost and resorted to empty speech. I've provided one argument
among many for the existence of God. All you've done is argue that I'm
saying "Ta Da! God did it." You're even suggesting matter and energy is
eternal when everything we know says the opposite. I'm sorry but you're not
looking for the truth. You're just being uncompromising for the sake of
atheism.
@ThisMemory You disbelieve all gods but one. I got one further.
Self-fulfilled prophecies don't count. Amazing how those prophecies
originate with the Jews who don't believe Jesus fulfilled them. The bible
isn't very reliable as original stories were given via oral tradition &
then copied & translated to various languages over time. Anybody could
write a "historical" book & fill it with falsehoods. Jesus was just another
cult leader claiming to be a messiah. Plenty of'em back then.
Because races are defined by people, not by nature. There is no genetic
defining factor for a race. So it is wrong to seperate people along racial
boundaries as it damages humanity (a group as a whole) so in terms of
treating humanity as a group it is anti-beneficial. So if you decided race
was a defining boundary (it isn't) then you could argue it was a moral
thing to do. But if you talk about humanity as a whole, destroying a race
is immoral. Not to mention unneccasary suffering.
"We have enough people on earth; raping and murdering few isn't going to
affect the entire population." False. What if one of those murdered has the
one gene that will prevent us being wiped out by a disease. "wars have
beneficial effects" Depends on the war. I'm not saying humanity as a whole,
I am saying a specific group. So an action may be moral to one group as it
may benefit them, but will negatively effect another group. So a war, may
be moral for one group, but not another.
if WLC wanted to sue he could but you're probably safe; your lawyer might
argue that because you are just some anonymous rabbit on the internet there
is no likelihood that the slander will be believed. & again, "telling
someone" (especially on the internet) is not enough to establish fact--the
person could be wrong, or lying, or endless possibilities. & so we also
have a case now of 1 person's word against another (Loftus), assuming
you're right..so what??--how biased you must be!
@ThisMemory No reason given why god can't create matter? Wow. Why even
bother with science & reality? When its all said & done, you're just gonna
check the box that says "Ta da! My bible god did it. Magically!" KCA only
argues for a first cause (does so badly since nothing we know just begins
to exist). Anything u add to that, u do so with your own religion & bias.
Scientists really don't know if the universe had a beginning- we don't know
what was going on prior to the big bang.
@ThisMemory Read carefully- nothing just begins to exist. You haven't
provided one example. The one example you provided was creation ex materia-
ie, your parents created you. In which case, previous existing matter was
assembled to make you. You're arguing for creation ex nihilo, in which your
god affected nothing to create something, which is absurd. Also introduces
infinite regress- who created god? Your definition of god describes nothing
& the leap to "personal" is absurd.