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te rohe potae AOTEAROA/nz short film....bruno isaac

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nohater DOGG commented on 24 Apr 2016

hes just shown that theres more to it than sittin round n drinking..... only few will realise. SFH...

James Hull commented on 22 Apr 2016

Awesome little film and so so true

marshall mathers gaming king 81 commented on 06 Jan 2016

mean as movie my bro

ROAD CONE commented on 09 Apr 2016

harty my bro bruno

Tee Manks commented on 25 Feb 2016

SFH

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asdfgasdfasdful commented on 11 May 2010

@Hoplite87 1. Governments have never been formed that way, factually speaking. I suggest you look up Cambridge archeologist Norman Yoffee's "Myths of the Archaic State." Or search youtube for "fringeelements rise of civilization" for a simple historical explanation of the origin of the state. 2. Gibbs is a minarchist, not 100% against government. However you do not need the state for property rights or law. I suggest economist Bruce Benson's "The Enterprise of Law: Justice without the State."

Joe ForLiberty commented on 11 May 2010

@paragshah2112 what's so wrong with capitalism??? Its just a label for voluntary human social interaction. I do have a problem however with an Elite group of overlords telling, rather FORCING PEOPLE as to how to live their lives. This elite force becomes all the more sinister once it's given the monopoly of PRINTING MONEY!!! True Capitalism on a macro economic scale doesn't exist anywhere on the planet today because CENTRAL BANKS dominate the planet with their paper money. Thus the RAT RACE!

asdfgasdfasdful commented on 12 May 2010

@Hoplite87 Why would I care what the average person in Argentina or anywhere else thinks? Most people in the world thought the Earth was flat a few thousand years ago. Most people thought that kings were divinely appointed by God a few hundred years ago. etc. The government is not magic. It does not create anything that was not there before. The government is a group of individuals with an ideologically subsidized monopoly on proactive physical coercion in an arbitrary territory. That's it.

Joe ForLiberty commented on 11 May 2010

@paragshah2112 look, do people go the war with other people?... No! GOVERNMENTS go to war with other GOVERNMENTS. now here's the part you don't learn in school. WHO FUNDS ALL WARS(.) ? ? ANSWER---> CENTRAL BANKS HOW? by counterfeiting pieces of paper with numbers on them so that some one else can work really hard just to earn a few of them. THATS NOT CAPITALISM. In a real free market the money will be determined by the voluntary action of individuals. GOLD seams naturally suited for money

asdfgasdfasdful commented on 12 May 2010

@fu3ar25 You're making no arguments whatsoever. I suggest you consult the actual economic data on the increase in real compensation in NZ and the correlation between the well-being of the poorest 10% and economic freedom, and comparative quality of life for the poorest 10% in NZ vs. the rest of the world. Things can always be better, and unfortunately government still grows. The more we maximise voluntary human interaction and minimise the coercion of the state, the better off we all are.

paragshah2112 commented on 11 May 2010

@joeymackaroni by going to the gold standard we run into the problems of limited wealth. it sucks because wealth becomes extraordinarily hard to accumulate. the central bank creating more currency that still holds its value but for a small technical decrease is a good way to get everyone wealthier, but the god damn slimeball bank isnt supposed to call the bonds in! they do that when they feel like pulling the rug out from under our feet. the central bank works only when it is govt owned.

Hoplite87 commented on 11 May 2010

@asdfgasdfasdful what nonsense! Everybody is a individual but you live with others as well thats the why governments from a historical point of view is what organizes society, if you wish to be totally free you and Gibbs can go to live in the Sahara or in the Borneo jungle as cavemen where you pay no taxes no rules exist or abide to none. States are just neutral it depends whos in charge that makes them good or bad. His got it completely wrong, what enforces private property is the law

Hoplite87 commented on 10 May 2010

Whats strikes me is not the fact that this guy is ruining the NZ country side landscape, its the idea that remains in many Anglo countries like US or Australia that Governments should be dismantled, completely privatize a nation's assets, and dissolve market regulations and this is after the financial crises exactly due from that. People like Palin or Gibbs don't know the difference of there elbow from there asses when it comes to international issues, thats when they become dangerous

paragshah2112 commented on 11 May 2010

@joeymackaroni the problem with capitalism is that it is a bloodsport. and in its purest form it is predatory. it destroys everything it touches and consolidates all the wealth and power into a few hands. its interests are vile and insidious, and it is amoral at its very root. a pure capitalism pretty much a fiefdom with just the king on top and the rest are nothing more than human cattle. democratic socialism is the only form of govt that protects and looks after its citizens.

Hoplite87 commented on 12 May 2010

I'm from Argentina and for a politician here (no matter how far liberal he may be or right wing) to say that all schools and hospitals should be privatized he would be scrutinized and have is carrier destroyed. Plus saying that the state can't run anything, that its only purpose is to enforce private property and to "facilitate contracts" (lol that sounds so corrupt, he must of facilitated contracts for telecom), why cant he say incentivize business and trade or whatever..??

Hoplite87 commented on 12 May 2010

@asdfgasdfasdful Currencies compete even today, whats your point??Yes various forms of currency existed in the past like metals and salt, the problem begins when it comes to certify that that coin or metal is really worth a X amount of capital, plus there limitations as countable units. If we ware in middle east 4000 bc you wish to sell me a cow and I come a long from far with a coin and say that its worth it, how can you tell its so..? You've got it wrong pal, just get real

loveandanarchy1111 commented on 10 May 2010

Too much money has warped his mind. I am an artist from NZ and find Gibbs to be heartless. How is he thinking he is a better patron of the arts than Castro? When Gibbs takes the artist works presenting them in a private museum that generates money to promote his own conservative and non humanist political agenda. People think because they can write a fat check that makes them an art patron, where his lack of depth and understanding of the subject is shocking. Yuck!

Hoplite87 commented on 12 May 2010

@asdfgasdfasdful History is a fact itself. I'm not a "statist" I dont even know what you mean by that. And as interesting as you ideas may be of a none existent government I find it hard to bring it to reality or how can a society organize itself just based on free market principles...You are just farfetched as communists are with a idea of having the state running everything, its a matter of balances, not positives and negatives like everything in life

loveandanarchy1111 commented on 18 May 2010

@asdfgasdfasdful I am sick of people thinking they can just write a fat check then they have the right do what ever THEY want. Not everyone is an artist or knows about it, but a big part of art is inspiring critical thought. We are not free to do as we wish just because we bought a gun or a car, or even a can of spray paint has rules as to how it should be thrown away.... Art has it's own responsibilities...... and in this case I object to the use.

weworkforamerica commented on 13 May 2010

According to Abraham Lincoln, we should have a rebirth of freedom with a government BY, FOR and OF the people. Abe would be sad to see how America has become a government of corporate socialism where enormous hand outs every year to large corporations and many pay little or no taxes.Corporate socialism aka corporatism aka fascism. If goverment should be the people, the people need to fight harder to take back control from the corporations.

Hoplite87 commented on 12 May 2010

@asdfgasdfasdful No evidence what about history itself !!?? You deny that civilizations like Egypt, Babilon, the lydians, the city states of Greece or the Republic of Rome became what they ware because they had a fairly sophisticated form of government in contrast to there counterparts ?? Conquest and empires are not only why they are remembered also the legacy they left. What legacy nomads and barbarians leave in comparison ??

Hoplite87 commented on 12 May 2010

@asdfgasdfasdful how an earth can capitalism exist without a state anyway?? States that emit currency (backed of course by central banks). Just imagine the volumes of exchanges of goods, services and information now days, how can it work just by trade like in the old days when people exchanged a donkey for pottery for example?? Those beliefs are just as utopist as the communist idea of the state in control of everything

loveandanarchy1111 commented on 18 May 2010

As an artist I find his motives questionable. For me he represents a nightmare art patron. Someone who has no desire to support emerging artists, but sees art as an investment. An artist very rarely has any say as to who purchases there art and what they use it for. He is using others creative voice to make a private museum that in part helps to support his political views, exploitation of others visions for sure.

Hoplite87 commented on 12 May 2010

Why should I care then what you say?? The concept of communism is much more modern than the concept of capitalism and yet its already proved impossible to work and useless in realty. Who said its the roll of governments to create things?? Governments are to organize and regulate society. You're definition is rather cynical though I think it applies more for a specific form of government witch is a dictatorship.

inches2669 commented on 21 Jun 2010

we need more of this influence in the world. one of those pieces could have payed for a bomb that would have destroyed the land on which they sit. in contemporary society, however, taht would not be logical. there are far too many priorities- taking care of the indignant, the enviornment, ect. we put our money in the wrong places. imagine what this world would be like if we had this mindset from the begenning

Hoplite87 commented on 12 May 2010

@asdfgasdfasdful Look suggesting books is not a proof of anything, the fact remains that through out history the civilizations that overcame the others had more sophisticated states witch enabled them to have better economies, create a currency, improved the security of its people, develop technology, build a army, expand. Those peoples that didn't, they just disappeared as such. Its as simple as that.

Jane Soyka commented on 18 Jun 2013

We visited Gibbs Farm last February - Remarkable, stunning, fantastic! Wasn't aware of Gibbs' political view then. I guess it takes a very powerful, wealthy person to create something like this. So I must separate my feelings about the man and his appreciation of the arts here. He has made something beautiful, and allowed us to appreciate these amazing artists' work.

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