@doghot45horse And if you are wondering why I bother saying this, it is
because I am sick of people shoving their religion in my face, asking me
why, as an atheist, I celebrate christmas, i am sick of all the death due
to religious extremism, the spread of AIDS due to the pope, the hindrance
of education and science due to creationism, the persecution of
homosexuals, I could go on. If anyone should be in an angrly mob, it should
be atheists due to all the damage theists have caused this world.
@mrwho995 Actually, Christmas is our version of Hanukkah. Which is not a
pagan holiday. And technically, if they haven't lost anything from it,
Christmas isn't "stealing." Christmas is simply to celebrate the birth of a
savior. Hence "Christ's Mass." Now, I don't want to offend you, and I don't
want to argue with you. But please, keep Christmas in your own way. I
appreciate you sharing your beliefs, but this video discussion is a
Christian one and you may spark a flame war. Nobody wants that.
@Dan00bindahouse the bit about the tree is rather easy to find, and on
websites about that you can usually find something about mistletoe too. As
for the virgin birth, youtube doesn't do links, but in google type in
'virgin birth other religions' and the third result, rational wiki (hardly
unbiased or very reliable, granted, but you can follow the references), go
to similarity to other religions and you will find that a virgin birth is
in Assyrian and Babylonian and mythology to name a few.
@doghot45horse One of the many reasons that I don't like religion. They
murder people for telling the truth. As for the date, yes, the date does
matter to the same extent that you wouldn't want to be celebrating your
birthday three months early (most bible scholars predict Jesus was born in
september). The whole idea of a virgin birth is stolen from paganism too,
that all Christianity is really, bits from different religions mixed
together. Birthdays and halloween are pagan too BTW,
@Dan00bindahouse I however do not want to offend you. I hope have a problem
with religion, as I beleive it does more bad than good (I won't go into
it), I don't have a problem with the religious. So I apologise for
offending you, but what I said is the truth. I will also apologise for
offending you by calling these people delusional, but you should realise
that that is what everyone outside of your religion thinks of you as being.
I am allowed to voice my opinion just as you are.
@Dan00bindahouse I have to say I am surprised at your open mindedness on
the matter. I will not do the same with regards to exploring my atheism, as
I have already done so, to an extent, and my lack of religion obviously has
far less of an impact on my life than your religion on yours. As for where
I got my facts from, I have to be honest and say I have no idea. They are
just facts that I have remembered.
@Dan00bindahouse Sorry, but you are wrong. Christians stole the whole
holiday from the pagan's winter solsitice. Christmas tree? Pagan! Mistetoe?
Pagan! Even the idea of a virgin birth has come from other religions. If
Jesus existed, nobody knows when (it doesn't say where in the bible). It
was given that date to ease the christianisation of the pagans. It doesn't
have anything to do with Judaism.
This was a large public performance with multiple groups working together,
not a flash mob. It has to start small with a growing number of people
joining in. It also must be far too complex for just strangers to join in.
It must look spontaneous but clearly planned and rehearsed. It is also
difficult in this video to see exactly who is singing. Beautiful, for sure,
well done, but not a flash mob.
@RetSquid Nope, everyone in America knows that pissed means angry and
everyone in Britain that pissed off means angry. And you are clearly being
angry. Preaching the gospel is damn annoying and gets me pissed off to the
same extent that me showing you the truth about christmas and paganism
annoys you. That's the point I was making. And I couldn't think of a better
phrase than googling.
@RetSquid quite a lot of caps lock implies anger. "Maybe you should listen
to what your conscience is saying and talk to God?"
hahahahahahahahahahhahaha (breathe in) hahahahahahahahahahahahaha thanks
for the laugh. And if you are going to give me bible quotes, can you please
give me some proof of the bible's accuracy and your specific god's
existence? cheers.
@RetSquid Exactly, there are different reasons, therefore to go around
parading and preaching to strangers is wrong. The point that I have now
successfully demonstrated is that you are getting pissed off by my 'reason
for the season', so I would appreciate it if you would stop preaching
yours, especially seeing as the entire season is based on paganism.
@mrwho995 Neither a Christmas tree nor a mistetoe is part of the Christian
celebration of Christmas. December 25th as a date is meaningless to us,
that date was just chosen to supplant the pagan holiday, not to supplement
it. "If Jesus existed" There are very few people who believe that He didn't
exist. watch?v=wZ2DELn2fFA
@mrwho995 WOW, you really have different definitions of words (pissed) from
the rest of us. Preaching the Gospel (Good News) is never wrong. I'm not
mad, nor am I preaching. I thought we were discussing different reasons for
the season? BTW, I've never been given a 'googling' before, should I have a
cigarette now?
this is not a flashmob anymore flashmobs are supposed to surprise
surrounding people there were like 200 people doing the flashmob and they
surprised like what, 50-100? I remember when flashmobs just used to be
10-20 people shooting each other with their fingers or doing the
'hammertime'-dance in a clothingstore
@Dan00bindahouse Oh, one more thing, be sure to really have an open mind
when doing your research. Something that we are all guilty of is (you've
probably heard of it) confirmation bias. If you haven't heard of it, it is
basically dismissing/accepting evidence based on your views.
I'm going to go do some research to verify my own beliefs and opinions on
this matter. I've been meaning to get down to this for months anyway, so
thanks for reminding me. But can I ask where you get your facts? About the
tree and mistletoe and virgin birth specifically?
hi. i dont know u but i found this video and i was there so i decided to
watch. and sooner or later, i found me haha with my boyfriend, and my mom
and sisters. at first i didnt know what all the people were about until
people starting singing.
@RetSquid Are you talking about the 'let me google that for you' thing? I
didn't make the video, it's a piece of software that you could ironically
find it you googled for it. It takes less time to use it than it takes to
write this comment.
@mrwho995 I'm not angry at all, how could you get that from my posts? Maybe
you should listen to what your conscience is saying and talk to God?
Proverbs 28:1 The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are
bold as a lion.
I agree whole-heartedly with the last comment. A pleasant performance,
verly likely fun to be a part of, AND in no way a flash mob. The
performance art aspect is absent which is a defining adspect of flash mob
experiences.
@thewaxgrid Well.....I'm white, Christian, conservative, and
law-abiding........that's why I like living here and raising a family here.
And you're right - - I sing this stuff every Sunday with joy. What do you
do??????
"Hundreds from local churches and schools gather to remind us about the
"reason for the season"." So why aren't they talking about winter solstice
and the pagans that they stole the holiday from?
@mrwho995 - I would appreciate it if you would not talk about my religion
that way. I don't want to spark an argument, since it is Christmas time,
but I would like you to grant my request.
@RetSquid I am now going to delete my comments because we are spamming the
comments page. I am only telling you so you can do the same and not look
like an idiot.
@edcassells you are fanatist and you can't see behind the things.. they are
singing it with their joy in that moment together btw Im white and
Christian and?
@mrwho995 The time of year would not matter it would still be about Him.
YOUR reason may be different from MY reason or THEIR reason.
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