I'm pretty sure that Death Note is an allegorical retelling of the Bible...
Light seems to fit the characteristics of Lucifer (LIGHT bearer) whereas L,
which spelt differently (El) is another name for God, seems to be Jesus,
even going as far being killed and coming back an N, similar to Christ's
return in Revelations
Also while he goes to worse means than N, Mello and N both are still treating the race to Kira as a game rather than an actually serious thing to rally behind, so have at least a level of selfish moral equivalence.
That's possible, but I'm not sure I'm entirely convinced. After all, Mello sacrifices himself for the cause of catching Kira -- or at least its implied he does. But then again he's the bad guy in many a situation, being friends with the mafia, a serial kidnapper, and has a pretty violent spirit. I'm not familiar with the story of the antichrist to tell the truth though, is he supposed to be evil like the devil or just a false Christ?
+Elliott Gruzin this might be a stretch, but I would interpret mello as a the antichristthink about it, on the surface he seems to be trying to accomplish the same goals as N, but his conduct and attitude are juxtaposed. even the way the narrative flows, it would seem that both would be suitable to take the case, but as the story progresses, we see that mello have some selfish motives.the Bible talks about an antichrist in Revelation, that will fool many believers of the Christian faith. it's implied that whoever the Antichrist would be, they would have to share some similarities to Christ, in order to fit that role. Mello and N are similar in some ways, but very very different ultimately.
+Ryuzaki Ackerman but none of the characteristics of Kira match God that you're speaking of. I'm sorry, but your childish interpretation of God is no more true than a rebellious teenager who thinks his parents just want to make his life miserable by punishing him and holding him accountable to rules. yes, perspective is reality 100% as per individual, however it is not emphatic truth.
+Ryuzaki Ackerman I may actually do a video on Attack on Titan. Thematically its a great look on what makes us human and what we're willing to become to survive. I haven't read the manga but I'm very very excited to see where it leads in Season 2.
+Antnj81 also, Mikami represents followers in religion who are delusional. Overly obsessed with justice. Closed minded about how complex the world is, only believing that you're either good or bad, and then should be punished for it. Believing, excepting, and trusting in a higher power no matter what, ignoring their true intension and actions. Willing to do anything for him, even dying, cuz he's nothing more than a tool who doesn't value human life.
+Antnj81 actually, it's the other way around. Kira represents the Christian god who has a childish sense of justice, as L would say. Killing anyone and everyone who's against him, even good people (like the detectives) just because they don't agree with him. The Christian god's sense of justice isn't about good vs evil, it's if you worship him or not. Light had a god complex. He wanted everyone to fear him and agree with his sense of justice, abusing his power to get it. Like a bully. If you look at the old estimate, God, like Light, was nothing more than a crazy serial killer, as N would say. Even Attack on Titan is tackling this subject currently in the manga. How apparently everyone's cursed from Adam & Eve making everyone born evil.
I'd say the titles ironic. How perfect does the ending feel to you? The shots used all throughout this episode are never colourful, never show us anything uplifting. Everything looks colourless, all the shots depict each character alone, especially as Light runs away shot in this completely empty, bleached, hopeless environment. The heroes don't even properly get resolution. The cops and Near momentarily argue over following Kira, and Near doesn't even seem happy the whole things over.All in all, the world hasn't been made perfect, it's been scarred by Kira, into a 1984 like world of terror and fear. Even without Kira, death and sadness still remain, as Misa is implied to be killing herself. So imho even if we can say 'from the big picture' the world will be a cleaner place, is it perfect, or even better than how we first saw it? I don't think so.
+Elliott Gruzin Another's thing is the title of the last episode , The Perfect World , I think Light did successfully reduce crimes and there were no major criminals left in the world , except Light. With his death the world was free of the worst of its criminals and the crime rates would have been lower than ever. What do you think about the title of the last episode ?
+Elliott Gruzin I agree many people with whom I discussed this tell me Death Note corrupted Light but I think Light was never corrupted , he had been the same throughout. From the very beginning he had believed that the world was rotten. Given the means he would have tried to change it and change it he did. Death Note was only a means , only a catalyst.
No, I think Light was corrupted from the very start. In fact it's his over reaching sense of justice and morality that IS his corruption, and I think that it never really seems to change throughout the course of the show. Sure, what Light actually does in the series gets worse and worse the more challenges he confronts and the more powerful he gets. However, did he ever not have the capability to do those things? I don't think so. In the very first episode we see Light consider killing some bullies at his school, then the person they were bullying, laughs maniacally, and plans to become a God over the world.This is what makes the Death Note fascinating to me. Like the Biblical Apple, it is not in itself evil, it just allows the sin already present in people to become manifest. There is actually no corruptive element to it. But that's my opinion, what do you think?
"While 'L' almost believes in no morality at all" 8:09 So, I beg to differ
this statement. L does believe in morality. Explain how he barely believes
in almost no morality. To me, every investigation he has carried what
judged and based on his moral concepts. Am I wrong?
+Elliott Gruzin also l is the raven of nevermore from edgar allan poes story. He represents death, can't be fooled or cheated. (Representing kiras eventual downfall)He sits like the raven perched on the bust of athena. ( the god of wisdom I believe). When he dies he falls off his stoop. He also looks like a raven.
I was totally on L's side pretty much the moment Light tried to kill him. To be fair, however, I think the reason people are so split is because both represent unideal extremes, so I get why there's a split. Light was just a bit too consequentialist for my tastes. As a character though, you can't help but love just how much fun he's having being totally maniacal.
+Elliott Gruzin Yeah you are right in every aspect. I had made this comment when I wasn't sure of the true meaning or morality. Now, I know exactly what moral means. This is somewhat irrelevant but I'd like to know who you side with in regards of justice. L, or Light? Who's approach is better in your eyes? By asking these questions, I am trying to comprehend what kind of observer you are.
I don't think L does have a strong moral compass at all in the same way Light does. L almost never does things because they are "right": he is willing to let innocent people die while investigating the Yotsuba Corporation, which the both Yagami's and I think by extension we are supposed to find morally repugnant. He manipulates the team of detectives he is supposed to be working with, like when he tests Aizawa for having second thoughts. Moreover, even though he calls Kira evil I think this is meant more as a provocative statement to make Light do something rash. L also practically tells us he's only in this for the fun of the chase when he tells us he's childish and hates to lose.I suppose you might say his investigation is handled "morally" (for example by looking after his detective allies) at some points but not enough to call L himself moral.Cheers for the comment though, what do you think?
¡Fantástico! As a Spanish/English interpreter I use most of these symbols.
The one that’s new to me is this one: ↔ for ‘conditional’. I like it. I’d
like to share one tip: Never invent a new symbol on the spot as this may
cause confusion. The new symbol makes sense when created in the moment,
however, when it’s time for interpreting consecutively then it's "Uh-Oh"
time trying to figure out what it means (not to mention the look on your
face). I look forward to Part-3.
This method was created in the 1800’s and is another form of shorthand.
This and other forms of shorthand are useful but not necessary in courtroom
settings but are a great asset in conferences, where utterances can be very
long. Again, if conference interpreting is your thing then some type of
shorthand is of great help.
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01x03 - Informal Arguments, Standard Form And Quantifiers
Welcome to Fast Philosophy. This video is part of our Introduction To Logic series and explains what informal arguments, standard form and quantifiers are.
My instructor says you are wrong in some of your philosophy. Care to have a
debate with him?
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Frances -
I'm glad you found this helpful!
As I've mentioned before, we do have to be a bit careful with outside
resources, because they might define terms differently. Hurst, for example,
defines 'standard form' a little differently than I have. I require a
conclusion indicator and he doesn't. That may be a minor difference, but it
may cost students a few points here or there.
A more important issue is that outside resources may get things wrong.
Hurst, for example, in the next video (01x04) defines soundness
incorrectly, as a valid argument that has a true conclusion. He's right
that all sound arguments will have a true conclusion, but he's wrong in
suggesting that all valid arguments with a true conclusion must be sound.
We saw counterexamples to this in the Week 4 DQs, in which several students
produced a valid argument with a true conclusion but which was unsound
because it had all false premises. (Hurst argues that if a valid argument
has a true conclusion it must have true premises, but that's a mistake.)
If you see a conflict between what an outside resource says and what I've
said in the lectures, please go with what's in the lectures. And, as
always, if you have any questions, please ask!
-Chris"
Thanks for your comment and thank you for watching. That your instructor uses a slightly different concept of standard form is an example of how logicians sometimes use different notation to express the same concepts, and I agree that it is only a minor difference. On the second point about soundness, it is true that inductive soundness has a different concept of validity which would allow the argument to be valid with a true conclusion but false premises; however, I was defining the concept of deductive soundness. This is made explicit in 01x04's title and script, and as the text you quote does not include reference to deduction or induction I can only assume that the distinction has been misunderstood. But for the sake of exams, do always follow what your instructor says.