"WCW was sabotaged" w/ Kevin Sullivan, Chris Kanyon, Vince Russo, & Kevin Nash
These are clips from DVDs i bought on www.kayfabecommentaries.com and www.rfvideo.com Pretty amazing stuff here at the shit creative had to deal "No more ...
Eric bishoff has said he had the money and was ready to buy the company but
there was some sort of shady back door dealing going on with Vincent and
someone from the inside in Time warner
I ripped the 2003 vince russo shoot a while ago but only used the single
clip you see here. Does anyone have any requests from that shoot? Someone
uploaded clips from it. i am not sure what people want to see.
Kanyon, RIP is extremely articulate and makes a brilliant case of jack-offs
like Johnny Ace, Segal, possibly Russo who were old & future WWF execs
sent-in to kill off WCW and give it away at a fire sale. Roddy and Cornette
said that they should have pooled their $$$ to out-bid WWF just to get the
copyright to the tapes.
I have to I say the corporate touch does it every time, micromanaging is
the downfall of many businesses. I would say the downfall of WCW is one
persons fault but with corporate people telling the experienced wrestling
people what to do is a recipe for disaster.
+Ander Drake - 100% agree. It's almost like the movie The Matrix ... these days if you see a m0f0 in a suit and tie .... run .... cause nothing good is going to come out of it.
+Ander Drake You can say that about wrestling in general...
Kevin Sullivan on his booking plans for WCW; 2000 (Goldberg vs Sid Vicious)
Video clips from DVDs i bought from www.kayfabecommentaries.com Kevin talks about his long term booking plans for WCW in the year 2000. The main event ...
I think everyone from Kevin Sullivan Eric Bischoff to Dusty Rhodes to even
Vince Russo brought something to the table although from a creative
perspective, someone like "Sully" brought much more than the others while
Bischoff's business acumen was unmatched. Regardless, too many chefs in the
kitchen, when one person would be put in charge, they were victims of
politics from other political factions, and not given enough time to fully
realize their vision. Also, lots of the same people that cite that Sullivan
is a genius now were the same ones that were crying about his booking in
2000.
WCW was doomed to fail because it was a Time Warner corporate property run
on a corporate level by people who did not like this business, understand
wrestling, and after the AOL TW merger were just looking to use it as a
tool to attempt to further their careers after the merger rather than try
to take an established asset that even at it's lowest point was still
drawing arguably the best ratings on all of the Turner owned stations, and
revitalize it.
You take WCW, put it on HBO on Saturday night at midnight for a "WCW Prime"
show, and remove standards and practices limitations because they are no
longer on basic cable, and get the creative resources at your disposal like
Sullivan, Russo, Ed Ferrara, Rhodes, and Bischoff to wrk together and WCW
would still be in business today.
+Ermelindo Figueroa "Bischoff's business acumen was unmatched"?!?!? Ha ha ha, that's funny!! Wasn't Bischoff the one who initially started spending zillions of Turner's dollars? Wasn't he the one who wrote all the prohibitive contracts that allowed lazy performers like Nash get paid for nothing? Wasn't his profligate spending one of the main reasons WCW lost zillions? Bischoff's greatest asset was his ass-kissing ability. He wormed his way to the top, and, once he got there, he was ultimately lost. He had a couple years of success before WCW lost more money than any other wrestling promotion in history!!! Besides, tell Vince that Bischoff's business acumen was "unmatched"... it was matched and set!!
+MainEventMafia4Life Hmmm, interesting. I didn't hear/read that Goldberg interview. I remember DDP saying in his shoot he remembers talking to Bill about shaving his head. I didn't see the shoot in years though. Who knows.
+Silent Scope - Someone else I know mentioned the legend of "Bill Gold" years ago to me but they never saw this match take place either. It might be one of those Wrestling Lore stories that is difficult to prove. Besides the way Kevin Sullivan was talking here he made it seem like it was a televised match that everyone saw, so if that's the case it wasn't a dark match for sure. Also, I remember Goldberg saying in an interview years ago that he cut his hair and became bald a little before he went to the Power Plant to train to be a wrestler. So if he was "Bill Gold" he certainly didn't have hair then. I don't know.
+Wildfan1984 I don't recall it either however in another shoot, Kevin says Mongo beat "Bill Gold" yes you heard me, "Bill Gold" when he was very first brought into WCW. Goldberg had hair, a jacket and an ex football player type gimmick. He claims "Bill Gold" was defeated on Nitro or the Saturday show by Mongo. I can't find a clip of it and didn't see it when/if it aired. However maybe he means it was a dark match?
+Wildfan1984 - When Sullivan said that I wondered the same thing. I never recall Mongo actually pinning Goldberg or making him submit. I recall the angle where Goldberg stole Mongo's Superbowl ring though and prior to their match at the PPV (can't recall the name of it right now), Mongo jumped him in the back with a lead pipe and knocked him out and took the ring back. I remember Mongo coming to the ring saying there wasn't going to be a match.....etc. But since Goldberg never appeared for the scheduled match he would lose by default.
+gkgyver Well, with regards to Hogan and Flair, they were under contract and getting paid good money... why not use them to ultimately build someone? This sounds like the plan with regards to G'berg...
+Chris Downey Point taken... but your initial post was filled with vitriol, calling old school wrestlers "has beens" and the people who put these shoots together "losers"...
Its better now with all the podcasts etc , even YouTube, I'd rather put up with ads on the page than spend my cash on a DVD I'm only going to watch once. That's all im saying
+Chris Downey Would you prefer interviews with new wrestlers? Excuse me, "sports entertainers"? I mean, what numbskull in their right mind would want a shoot interview with a nothing like Roman Reigns as opposed to someone who has decades of experience in profitable promotions? Better to be a has-been than a never-was...
WCW was always such a mess, what's up with the bell rigning before the
pinfall in the World Title Match, Yeah small detail but things always
seemed to go down that way. Still a great show.... As Always
+Will Fisk the whole show was weird.... a lot of the wrestlers just seemed off kilter with one another, the Pillman/Malenko match seemed odd... the Flair/Savage match was flat... the tag title match was kind of just there... and yet it was a show with two major title changes. It was just one big MEH... but at the same time like you said... it was a fun show.
There are quite a few people appearing in this episode who were at the
time, married in real life: Kevin Sulivan and Woman, Miss Elisabeth and
Randy Savage and Steve McMichael and Debra McMichael.
Commentators keep mentioning that Woman and Miss Elisabeth appear with
Randy Savage in this episode. However, throughout all this, Mongo remains
quiet. As we can all see very clearly, woman who comes out first is Debra
Marshall, then Debra McMichael, real life wife of Steve McMichael and
future wife of Stone Cold Steve Austin.
Hulk Hogan has been total scum for decades...this is not news??? so many losers defending him is funny as fuck. So NONE OF YOU know how to use the internet or read any book ever about Hogans scummy actions.lol
RIC FLAIR outside of the NWA,WCW and WWF, WWE was a douche bag who cant live in reality. He could have been one of the all time greats but now is a sad old pathetic reason to feel sorry for old wrestlers who don't get it.
I get it...BENOIT makes you feel ashamed to be wrestling fans....but wrestling and VINCE should make you ashamed....and that its for kids......right? WWE doesn't pay health care? is that too boring for you? Vince is a racist and hates black people and woman....too real?
So all you brain dead loser wrestling fans with KEVIN SULLIVAN envy...lol.....so its that far fetched....WRESTLING FANS......THAT Kevin who beat her, stalked her.....was not involved? really???? You are all so sad and cant get off the Benoit matches so all your brains shut off?? really?? lol
No.....I guess you like people who are wannabe satan lovers like this woman beater......its okay...You can like LOSER never over bad wrestlers like KEVIN who beat Nancy and pushed her away. Kevin a wannabe.....lol
This is not a court of law? lol so...any evidence he DIDNT or wasn't involved? I MEAN...see how that works? he did BEAT NANCY when they were married plus has one of worst reps in the history of wrestling for some strange shit. Look him up.
No. Benoit is a human scum bag for what he did....Sullivan was still involved somehow. Ric Flair has gotten married what 4 times and pissed all his money away how many times and his own kid was a junkie...yep FLAIR is garbage...Hogan is Garbage. You idiot wrestling wannabes putting Hogan as a hero still AFTER ALL THE EVIDENCE AGAINST HIM for every lame thing he has ever done....is pathetic. LOL YOU grow up.
+DamienNightwingIf you even insinuate Sullivan may have had something to do with it, you're a drooling fucking retard. Neither honest or correct in any way in that regard. Flair's a scumbag, Hogan's a scumbag and not because he called someone a nigger, because of the umpteen million things he did prior to that video being released.Anyone who thinks Benoit meant enough to anyone outside of wrestling to be framed for Nancy and Daniel's murder is a stupid fucking sack of shit. This fan faggotry for Benoit has got to be the most foolish thing I've ever seen in my life. He didn't draw a dime, he became bitter, he got into it with Nancy who was probably ready to bail on him and he killed his family. A little boy. And not one of you Benoit lovers ever even mention their names in your tribute videos, or in your stupid comments on how he was innocent. It's really too bad he didn't smother you, instead, before taking his own life. You're a waste of oxygen and space. Die.