@Pelonetillo I think you're saying God cayuses abortion by causing
spontaneous abortion(stillbirth)aren't you? His ways R not R ways. God also
causes spontaneous birth.The Bible's living interpreter is the Catholic
Church,which cannot err on things concerning faith&morals. Church has yet
to find a generation of people willing to follow all she teaches.The Church
is not like Islam"kill the infidels",but has done some wicked things in the
past,tho not as bad as some claim,not God's fault,but ours
@pbmdh Don't like abortion protesters? Don't be one. Just remember, YOU
might become helpless and vulnerable some day and your support for abortion
makes it "ethical" to kill persons who are "inconvenient", because they
stress people out. Who will speak for you if you were paralyzed or unable
to speak,like Terri Schiavo? Not everything is about what we choose,but is
often about what is chosen FOR us. Women should not become killers,men
should not let them kill. Anti-war?War on 50,000,000 unborn
@pillowbugg Imagine this: a nice old lady who has always supported a
woman's right to choose saying "My body, my choice" is in a nursing home
and she needs her adult diaper changed. A nice young lady comes in to help
her. Should the old lady say A) "My body, my choice, leave me alone" or B)
"Thanks for recognizing my body,I'm a person,I'm helpless". As the young
lady helps her,the old lady sees the body of the young lady is like hers
was years ago,when she got an abortion,and it made her sterile
@Pelonetillo A good place to get a grasp of reality abut US history is to
read legal precedents. Which case has discovered any Pro Life group
CONSPIRACY to do ORGANIZED terrorism? Hint: reference Joe Scheidler Supreme
Court case.Hint: non-violent civil disobedience is KNOWN tactic of Pro
Lifers and it's what 60's Civil Rights Movement did, too. The integrity of
our whole legal system is at stake now with legalized murder of both
children&adults on the books. "Show trials"like in USSR next step.
@LonghornPhysicist If they shout that people are going to Hell, then they
are expressing an opinion on which they are not qualified to judge. Only
God can condemn a person to Hell. If the "going to Hell" comment is
made,that would be blasphemy,but I'd still like to knw the context of
stmnt.It's not said on tape.We all will be held accountable for what we
say&do,no one's saved until they GET TO HEAVEN. Evanglcls think they are
once-saved-always-save,but they forget about God's judgment in that
@Pelonetillo The civil rights movement in the 60's didn't have any
"traction" until pictures of lynch mobs were shown. Pictures of
concentration camps exposed the ugly truth about Nazi genocide project.
Today 52% of Black babies die from surgical abortion,which qualifies it as
racial holocaust,genocide.Sanger,founder of Planned Parenthood,had NEGRO
PROJECT aimed at reducing Black population.SOME WILL change their mind from
seeing graphic images, some won't. But history is on the side of TRUTH.
@SeanDeath Someday YOU might become unable to speak for yourself, and you
live in a culture that says it's OK to kill the inconvenient ones. Who will
speak for you then? Remember Terri Schiavo? The court ordered she be
starved to death because Michael,her husband,wanted to "move on"& marry his
live-in lover,plus he wanted to spend $ he'd gotten f/settlement of case of
malpractice on Terri.Sometimes others CHOOSE FOR US,and we can't do a thing
other than protest.Pro Life speaks FOR the unborn.
@Pelonetillo All the world's problems have a spiritual component to them;if
we all took the 10 Commandments and Beatitudes to heart,& lived them,most
problems of scarcity would end . 7 Deadly Sins cause the problems we have.
You can't end poverty by eliminating the poor. Good govt is one which makes
it easy 2B good,hard2B bad.Churchmen erred in trying to convert traditional
cultures,without censuring modernists "enthusiasm"for sin. Church teachings
weren't at fault,teachers,modernists were.
@finishstrongdoc The showing of graphic pictures IS LEGIT FREE SPEECH, one
of the FEW avenues of TRUTH available to laypersons to express outrage,
redress of grievances."Elite schools" are MOSt important places for FREE
xchng of TRUTH. Broken babies are the WHOLE TRUTH,not half truth, not
half-dead,ALL DEAD,ALL TRUTH,all BROKEN. And TRUTH BROKEN in sanctity of
life, breaks the sanctity of hallowed learning centers!!! This is
Satanic,diabolical and is "END GAME"strategy to KILL all good !!!
@Pelonetillo Life is a journey that begins at conception. At that moment we
"receive" our human rights. No state law can "remove" those rights, they
can be destroyed only by killing the life you are given. Where that life
ends can be determined by others. We all must recognize each others
intrinsic right to life, or cultural chaos ensues. Agreed: life is a
gift,not to be taken by others. No agreement,no cultural bonding, no
culture, just autonomos entities "floating" & killing needlessly.
@pillowbugg The few who have gone to extremes and killed abortion doctors
are the exceptions that prove the rule. Pro Life movement is peaceful,
prayerful,non-violent. Graphic images are giving THOSE children a VOICE
they were DENIED because of CHOICE. Protest is legal,protected freedom of
speech.Who will speak for YOUR rights if you can't speak for yourself?Human
rights can't be taken from some persons without offense of SOMEONE,who may
not even BE in the group whose rights are denied .
@Pelonetillo And it is instructive to note that the way our society
responds to the act of procreation, with all its effects, on both women and
men, is vulnerable to the whims of the power structures. The sexual, urge,
response,it's causes & outcomes, are best left inviolate by the powerful,
not used for political or monetary gain.No porn,Xceptives,abortion,titty
bars,etc. Just sayin we'd all be better off w/o those things. At least we
can confine them,not glorify them,they cause chaos.
@finishstrongdoc Another unfortunate outcome related to abortion is the
breakup of relationships following abortion. When relationships fail,
households break up, requiring more housing units to be made. Previously
unused land,once tillable land or even wilderness lands are then needed to
put these units on. Ironically, enviornmental groups don't recognize this
connection or refuse to. Earth friendly living arrangements: many using one
unit, not fewer using many units.Sierra Club listen
@Pelonetillo Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but no one has a
right to their own facts. Don't you think it's a little tiresome to hear
"i'm right because that's my opinion" all the time from the atheist/PC/Pro
Abortion opinioneers?You guys have had that hate God/America stuff shoved
so far up that you are just sock-puppet reactionaries with no mind of your
own. Unable to decide whether to jump or wind your watch when faced with
hard evidence, you just say "Oh,well,"opinion".
@finishstrongdoc Here's a good example of what I''m talking about when
facts are in the faces of PC crowd. They're looking at a picture of a dead
baby. Not half-dead, just DEAD. Looking for a gray area to hide in they
can't,so they just attack by saying"Well, I don't think they should show
THAT".Why the hell not?Fact:dead baby=BAD!! Fact:live baby=GOOD. No half
truth,just truth. Being avoided on a collegecampus, where truth is supposed
to be everyone's right to see,hear,smell,KNOW.
@finishstrongdoc This video is in fact a case where chaos is created by the
abortion debate. I have been doing Pro Life demonstrations similar to
these, and have been physically, verbally attacked, death threats, tearing
up signs. Many women report post abortion trauma, though not all do,but all
say it was "regrettable,difficult time". Doesn't sound "stable" to me.I
don't condone it, but abortionist have been killed. This is like
anti-slavery conflict,that preceded Civil War.
@SilentSpork Whether God exists or not isn't relative to abortion. Even
agnostics can find they wish to speak for the unborn, so that human rights
can apply to ALL, not just those who CAN speak for themselves. Science has
advanced since ROE, and it shows Roe was badly decided.Facts are
facts,opinions not based on facts should be overturned to reflect facts.Our
whole system of justice is based on human rights that one OWNS,& which
cannot be TAKEN AWAY by CHOICE of ANY Court.
@pillowbugg Yeah,RIGHT,we're out there "threatening" people with our
pictures of Jesus and our Rosaries. If YOUR group's right to life is ever
threatened by a bad court decision, we will protest THAT, when they start
killing YOUR group, too. We protested murder of Terri Schiavo,cause hers
was a test case,as well as the fact that she was a real person who needed
someone to speak for her right to life.Your bigoted comments about
Christianity should be removed as hate speech.
@AnEndlessObsession Your argument that Pro Life groups should fund all
unexpected pregnancies that mother's wish to then abort is a bad argument.
The anti-slave people didn't buy all the slaves from their masters. Most
slaves weren't"for sale".$335,000,000 tax money/yr goes to PLANNED
BARRENHOOD:that $ could be spent to fund preg care ctrs.POP CONTROL is a
scam,enuf resources to feed the world,but greed,civil wars of hatred of
other groups cause famine,despair,failure.
@LonghornPhysicist I'm not sure I can say which Church these belong to, but
I support their way of doing this because I think Jesus would do it the
same way. He was confrontational, they didn't crucify him for being a
conformist to PC of the times,and his crucifixion was a public bloody
spectacle&took ridicule,scorn,beating etc,as did all his flwrs for 1st 400
yrs. You can win with good works,but the Gospel must be preached
everywhere,not just where"convenient".
@Pelonetillo Well. i have learned that sex is nit just good, not just
great, but it is holy. I try to live by that, and abstain, but ..Not God's
fault I'm irresponsible like most everyone else. But I still try. It's good
to be free,to have sex(with spouse) or not have it (for sake of freedom)
Like I saidB4,the only failure is the failure to try. That's my opinion,but
then I'm always trying difficult things,go way too far sometimes, but
that's just me.
@Pelonetillo Life emerges spontaneously whenever a new person is conceived
by human sexual intercourse. Your theory needs a little more insight, like
common sense, maybe. And as for the origins of all life, prior to anything,
we have to go to philosophy, not just science and history. Before science
and history can exist there has to be a "something" that creates matter.
The beginning and ending of all knowing is not confined to the material.
@Pelonetillo This area of discussion on abortion is distasteful to me,
because it brings in the idea that some are not capable of being
"contributors",and the powerful use this argument to do forced
sterilizations, own slaves, racism, all that because of "inferior quality
of life" characterization determined by power group, which can demoralize
others and in the process demoralize self & their nation, like abortion has
done to us.
@Pelonetillo You've just made my point for me. We can't have the legal
system taking our life,just because it can. The nice old lady doesn't want
to die,but in the case I presented,the Dr. was killing by request of the
caregiver,and the state allowed it. This is happening in Europe now. Don't
you see the pattern, the connection between abortion and euthanasia? Some
aborted babies live and are allowed to die. OK with you, or not OK?
@Bravhrt79 so basically if someone is a victim of rape or of child abuse at
a young age they should keep the reminder of that for atleast 9 months
before giving it up for adoption, or if someone actually attempts to use
protection but a condom breaks then a person should have to keep a reminder
of 1 night with them for 9 months (and yes broken condoms do happen)?
otherwise trying to get past a horrible event makes u a nazi?
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