What a piece of junk... I'll take my big gas guzzling sexy v8 C63 AMG over
some box of shit like this any day. Electric cars are cool because they're
new, but the whole concept sort of takes away from the character of a
sports car that keeps owners attached or interested in the first place for
that matter.
This video really made me not want to buy a dam tesla why the fuck do i
have to go into a fucking restaurant and have to ask them if i can plug my
extension cord into their wall for a while.
LOL you will NEVER have to do that. It was clearly a joke. Kind of scary that you think thats what you would have to do just by watching this video. Please develop a stronger sense of rationalization.
you don't have to, he was just making a point, 70% of the time its charged from home. plus road-trips for the Model S are done with the Tesla Superchargers //www.teslamotors.com/supercharger
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think outside the box. get a solar panel on the roof of your house. free
electricity, no emissions, what's not to like? you can power your whole
house off the grid. and electric motors don't use much electricity in the
first place, an electric dryer uses more electricity... a full charge is
worth less than 3 bucks, so your hardly using any electricity at all! and
what do you mean emissions is a joke? smog is a dangerous threat to our
health and its getting worse...and co2. but smog is undeniable
The prices have fallen and will fall even further. There is a 45 mins quick
charge ability now. And you will save a lot on fuel costs which will rise a
lot soon. Not to mention how convenient it is to recharge it almost
anywhere, anytime. The battery used to be the problem, not anymore. I do
agree it costs a lot. But the prices will fall even more and when mass
production kicks in, it'll fall so much that you'll look back at the petrol
car and laugh. It'll be like looking at a typewriter.....lol
perhaps you're a little uninformed since you dont live in the sunbelt, but
I do, and i have several friends with solar panels on their houses...and
no, they dont conserve power in the least.. they have pretty decent sized
houses too and use their electricity just like anyone else. The only
downsides to solar panels on your roof are the initial cost, and ensuring
constant sunlight, with the latter not being an issue for people living in
my area. You should research before you make untrue claims
On top of spending $20k on the extreme low end to get set up to use solar
energy in their home, people that have enough solar panels to "power their
house" have had to cut their energy use drastically to make that possible.
That would include using a micro-refrigerator, laptop computer at most, and
a little B&W TV, not to mention powering their stove and central heat with
gas. Then you have to live in an area where sunshine is reliable, which
where I live it can be overcast for a week or more.
Obviously you didn't read everything I wrote, since I covered everything
you say here. I never said the S2000 was better than the Tesla, just that
for far less than the price of a Tesla you can get a car that will cost
even less to run and go round a track faster. (sure, the Tesla goes from
0-60 in 3.9, but it tops out about 130 and has a 35/65 weight distribution.
It's not comparable at all to a Ferrari) I even said that the Tesla is a
good idea, but right now it costs more than it's worth.
The Tesla is far from the first electric car. The only thing it does that's
new is go a greater distance and do it faster. Other cars have shown the
efficiency of electric vehicles... the Tesla was really just a showcase of
what was possible. The day someone makes an electric car that performs as
good as an S2000 (including range), costs about the same, and doesn't need
$25,000 worth of batteries every 100k miles, I'll be very interested. As it
stands, though, this car just isn't practical.
Of course there are, but have you asked them what all they do without and
how much they paid to get such a setup? I wasn't saying it didn't affect
just me. It doesn't affect the vast majority of people. The only people it
does affect are those in the cities. By all means, if they want a Tesla,
they can feel free to pay $100k as long as I'm allowed to keep driving my
S2000 for which I paid less than $10k. Also, I only buy gasoline that has
democratic origin (American, Canadian, Israeli, etc)
To clarify, I'm not saying electric cars are a bad idea. I'm just saying
they're far from practical at this point. Keep in mind that the Tesla needs
a new set of batteries after 100k miles (says Tesla). Expect to spend about
20-30k on that. My car, on the other hand, gets an overall average of about
25 miles to the gallon. Divided into 100k is 4000, times 3 dollars per
gallon is 12k. Even if the initial costs of the cars were the same (which
they're not even close), I'm still saving money.
Btw, it's much more efficient for coal energy to be harvested all at one
time rather than inefficiently through any engine. The Tesla takes care of
that. And the point is that it uses MUCH less emissions (including where
the electricity came from) including how much less your insurance will be.
A car that doesn't need maintenance = a car that spends less money at the
shop = cheaper insurance payments. Not that it'll matter to those who can
afford it, but the point is that it's a big step.
Honestly i do not like the fact of an electric car. Example I live in texas
city was here for hurricane Ike i had no power for a week but we still used
our vehicle to move tree limbs that had fallen in our yard to go and check
on family members and to run other much needed errands. If we wouldve had
an electric vehicle we wouldve been screwed no way to charge the vehicle
with no power. I am against the electric car but i believe in alternative
fuels. Besides nothing beats the roar of a V8
Of course... I'm not saying that electricity is useless or that electric
cars aren't a good idea. An electric car *would* be cheaper to run than a
gasoline car, but until they bring that price down from >100k and find a
way to charge the battery in less than 30 minutes, they're just an idea
instead of a practical solution for the majority of people. (I drive 1200
miles to college twice a year. Stopping every 240 miles overnight to charge
the car won't work, to say nothing of the pricetag)
You aren't relying solely on the solar panels, either. Also, by only
spending 10k on the S2000, I have 90k left over before I even reach the
*initial* cost of the Tesla (and most people can't afford payments on a
100k car, including me) It will take a very long time to reach 90k in gas,
and I doubt if I ever spend 1k in maintenance on this car in the amount of
time I am going to keep it. I'm not saying solar panels are a bad thing,
but you're much better off with a wind-powered generator.
The problem is that we could produce electric cars since last century but
the chemical batteries are very pollutant. There's a lot of new inventions
of today that will solve theproblem like hidrogen cell n MTJ batt. This is
not a bad think to do an expensive car usig Tesla patents, but Tesla would
cry if he could see a commertial company with his name producing this
expensive cars. He invented this for all the world like wirless free
electricity that will apear next year with HP n Nokia.
And have you priced solar panels? On top of being expensive, they're really
not that efficient. I could cover the whole roof of my house with them and
still not be able to power the whole thing. I have a battery bank set up
with a small wind-powered generator that charges them, but it's really only
useful when the power goes out. As for emissions, yes, there can be alot of
smog in big cities, but that's the limit of smog. Here in rural Arkansas
the pollen is all you have to worry about.
And spending more than 50,000 dollars is worth saving hardly any emissions?
Don't forget where the electricity your Tesla will come from.. probably a
coal fired power plant. Even if the power company you use uses nuclear
power plants, they had to mine the uranium and ship it to the plant. What
the people who build these kind of cars don't understand is that the
majority of car buyers aren't interested in saving emissions. They're
interested in saving money. (emissions is a joke anyway)
Nearly all Ferraris have decent storage, are comfortable, and handle
excellently. The Tesla has a 35/65 weight distribution. That's worse than a
911, except the Tesla doesn't have the added systems to make it work. The
Tesla definitely proves that an electric sports car is possible, but at
over $100k you're better off buying a Lotus Elise SC (supercharged). Nearly
as fast in acceleration, 30 mph faster in top speed, better handling, and
you'll save some 50k which will buy ALOT of gas.
There probably isn't yet, but if I owned one it wouldn't take very long :P
(well actually I guess it would since I'd have to charge it every 250ish
miles). There will still be some capacity after 100k miles, but the range
will be considerably less. Just Google "Tesla battery life" and the top
result is Tesla's own page on the batteries. Don't get me wrong.. It's a
cool car, but the benefits it offers aren't really in the $100k range. A
Lotus Elise is less than $50k, remember! =D
@SakoTGrimes not true, even with 'dirty electricity' of the worst kind they
are many many times for efficient. think of all the inefficiencies with
each car burning its own fuel with different technology and maintenance
levels : then consider at any moment in time how many million cars in the
world are stopped at traffic lights idling away tonnes of petrol for no
good reason. plus of course there are many clean electric sources, but not
required to make a massive difference!.