How to quit fentanyl patch Videos

+scuba I agree Im a daily fentanyl user and I only use 30mg's IV but 400mg's could knock an elephant out!!

bullshit, you'd die instantly

i agree with you totally, he should not be giving any advice.i am currently on fentanyl 75mcg. he's so far in left field, facing the wrong way on the field, bullshittin the hot dog vendor about how his hot dogs are made! im sorry to rant but he is the definition of a true putz! he's the kinda person that corners you on a train and proceeds to blather about and the only thing you can think of is how long it would take to choke his.ass out!!. so two words of advice pyle,piss off and stick to what you know,cause its not about fentanyl!!! (theres morphine in there, you are a asshole.!.

No, not regarding psychopharmacology, psychoactives (incl. opioids, as evidenced by his attacking messages (incl. stating he hopes the poster dies) referencing false information (e.g. opiates vs. opioids as one example)), nor should he be demeaning to others in trying to get his point across. I know more than him, indisputably more, and I've had friends die of O/D's likewise, but to present his misinformation along with attacking others (wishing they'll dies in an O/D) shows me just how ignorant and "[non]-experienced" he in fact is. Presenting false information as "experience" and wishing someone to die I personally find disgusting, as well as obviously ignorant.   

+tajfeaster1 so you don't think that someone who is addict and recovered is experienced to talk about the subject?? smh

+Banner Ba-Banner huh! i heard that too! except mine was get yourself a nice dress. they weren't kidding...just lost a long time friend as a direct result of drugs :(

+Banner Ba-Banner What do you mean? You're making no differential between opiates and opioids yet you criticize this uploader for posting something that's obviously subjective. If one actually takes this advice then they'll take any bloody advice, not the obviously high-as-a-kite 'advice-giver's' problem.

Get Over YOURSELF... Period. smh lol

+Banner Ba-Banner I've had friends die fro ODs, that doesn't make me "experience[d]", a background in psychopharm and pharmacognosy does however. If the man does opioids, not opiates (as you reference (the difference is astounding (e.g. natural vs. synthetic))), he obviously knows a little bit about them. Get over your 'experience' and pseudoscience.

+tajfeaster1narcotic analgesic derived from a opium poppy (natural)opioid - narcotic analgesic that is at least part synthetic, not found in nature

+Banner Ba-Banner Your ignorance is astounding. Opiates vs. opioids is a big difference.

Wow, the ignorance on this video is astounding...

+Big Ballin How about, if it's prescribes to you & used correctly, then, and only then, take it...But you, nor her, nor even myself, should be talking to people like they know... Oh wait, I do, but again, nor me, because we're NOT THEIR DOCTOR!!!

i remember being on 75mcg every changed 48hrs, and effentora 600mcg q.d.s and i got explosive earth shattering migraine headaches that felt like my brain was expanding out my eye socket. along with moderate pains running nose and diarrhoea. but migraines were the worst lasted for about 5 days the others lasted for a little longer, did you ever get these migraines?? p.s you may be wondering,effentora?? well in ireland and uk thats what its called in the usa its fentora. just so your not confused,

I just did my second to last dose jumps. I have gone from 150mg of MS contin (morphine) every 8hrs; the fetinal patch; with daily Dilauded, Percocet, valume, and tramidol thrown in throughout the day. I tried ramping, but I just felt crappy all the time. So I did a few large jumps instead. If you are dependent (not addicted) I would recommend this instead. The feeling is awful, but it's over a much shorter duration. It's like dealing with a terrible flu for a year vs dealing with the pain of be

@Neelloc1973 (part 3): We're all different, but one thing I've learned is that getting off of the patch is harder than from other forms of opiates. Please know that addiction is different from physical dependence, which causes the withdrawal sequelae. If you have a mental addiction it is harder because then you have all the urges to keep using. You may be able at some point to convert to oral medications. If you want to get totally opiate-free you will need an alternate form of pain management.

@shewhofeels Firstly thank you so much for the advice which I will no doubt find useful. If I had known about this type of addiction I think I would have told my Dr, thanks but no thanks, regarding meds. I'm almost 40 and can barely rem the last 10yrs of my life. What a pathetic state I feel. Can I ask, if I do remain on these meds, what's my prognosis? It's just you sound like you've been through the process and can offer insight. How are you now? What are your doses? I am aware you have other

@vanorthea Hi I noticed youre discussing pain patches also. I need help to get off 200mg every 72hrs My pain Dr went nuts when he saw the dose I was on. I went from 15mg every 72hrs to 200mg in just 2 yrs. after 50-60 hrs I feel like spiders are crawling in my veins. I was told I would have to come into hospital to get off the stuff. Can you offer me any advice please. I was oblivious to opiate abuse until I tried to come off it last year. Big mistake! I can't live like this anymore. I've conte

@Neelloc1973 (part 2): Then you can step down to 175ug/h and go from there. The decreases get harder the lower you go because you are decreasing by a larger percentage of your current dose each time. When you get down to the lower doses, ask for the Mylan brand patches so you can cut them and reduce stepdown amounts to 6ug/h (half of a 25ug/h patch). After each decrease, make sure you're stable before attempting the next. Some docs may want to rush the process but go with how you feel. (cont.)

@Neelloc1973: You're so welcome! I'm glad something I said helped. *hugs* RE: addiction: there's a big difference between physical dependence & true addiction. RE: prognosis: opiate therapy alone is unlikely to have significant impact on your prognosis. I know how you feel about going through this for a decade. RE: me, I'm still struggling & very dejected. I don't think I'll get below 25ug/h. It's so sad because I really want to be a mama. Getting off the patch hasn't returned my fertility. :(

@Neelloc1973: Hey sweetie. I was on 200ug/h q48h for nearly 10 years so I feel you! First of all yes, your doctor is right: stopping them outright is dangerous; potentially fatal and brutal. I so know how it is to want off immediately but it isn't the way to go. There are a few options, the easiest but longest is to ask your doc to help you by decreasing the dosage. You can do 187.5ug/h for the first taper dose (100ug/h + 75ug/h +12ug/h patches) and stay on that dose for several weeks (cont.)

@Vanorthea: Hey angel! You may want to ask to go back to q48h at the lower dose. Those of us needing q48h dosing will have withdrawal symptoms on Day 3 WITHOUT ANY DOSE DECREASE! You'll be able to tolerate your dose decrease MUCH better w/o having wider serum concentration swings & resulting exacerbation of withdrawal symptoms from extending time b/w patch changes. Also you may wish to ask about clonidine to help w/ the icky effects. Low & slow takes longer but is much more bearable. *hugs*

I am sorry...I should have read further before commenting. You are not a Mama YET. I am impressed by all of your hard work. You have put so much effort into this. You are down to 25mcg/hr? I am down to 37.5 and am now in so much pain. I was wondering what you are going to use for pain once you are pregnant? I am praying that your plans will succeed, with the help of God. I am saddened to see people trying to sell you all types of drugs, jumping on advertising to you!! Peace, good health 2 U

@oilbarron70: I know. It sucks. I have been closely monitored from day one and never abuse or have abused my medication. I have chronic pain and the patch has served me faithfully; I was stable at 200 ug/h for about 9 years. I want to be a mother, so I am volitionally tapering. I have been holding at 42.5ug/h for a bit; I am having another dental surgery tomorrow so I will be staying at this dose for a bit. Are you med-free? How do you deal with your pain now? Thanks for reaching out! :)

WTF are you talking about?! I NEVER "tell" people to do ANYTHING -- AND OF COURSE this needs to be done under physician supervision! NOWHERE have I said otherwise to ANYONE, and if you ACTUALLY READ my correspondence with @Neelloc1973 you will note discussion regarding *TALKING TO HIS PHYSICIAN* about this process! Save your bullying bullshit for someone who doesn't have the temerity to stand up to your ignorance and abusiveness. Don't like me or what I have to say? Click elsewhere!

@Vanorthea: Hey sweetheart! I am stable now on my low dose & will be staying here for a while. I've had some other medical issues coming back so we've halted my taper for now. The most important thing is DO NOT RUSH your taper! That is what I did wrong & why I suffered so much. Sometimes it takes chronic pain pts months to re-stabilize on a lower dose. Also never decrease more than 25% of current dose each time. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! Good Journey!

@Vanorthea: There are so many of us who are fast metabolizers & need q48h dosing! I'm so pissed at the DEA scaring docs from doing what is right in pain mgmt & drug seekers/abusers who make our Lived hell. Opiophobia sucks! :( You want to DECREASE your meds, why won't they help? What is your pain doc's reasoning on not helping you taper? This is totally unacceptable. I can help you find literature re: q48h dosing if you want. I'm sorry you are meeting so much resistance. *hugs*

Just wanted to update you since you were so kind to me when I first started this... But tonight at midnight I will be putting on my last 12mcg patch, so in 72 hours I will be taking off the last patch for good. I will then be tapering down on the hydrocodone (7.5/500 tid x 7 days, 5/500 tid x 7 days etc.) It's been a rough journey, but my clarity of mind is better. The pain of course is astronomically bad, but I expected that. Now, to search for non opiate based treatments!

I did ask about it. My pain management doctor refused to help me get off the opiates so I have my primary care helping me. He refuses to prescribe q48 because he keeps claiming that the patch matrix is made so it releases the meds over 72 and he said he won't compromise his license by prescribing a control against the recommend use. I've tried showing him that there are many people that have withdrawal after 48. For me it lasts about 50 hours before I start feeling crappy.

@JamminYamann: Pain Mgmt has come far! Yes, there are longer-acting oral meds, e.g., methadone. There are a vast array of blocks; technological advances which may help (TENS, pain pacer; etc.). Accupuncture, trigger point release, accupressure & PT can also help, as well as desensitization modalities, depending on the type of pain you have. At this point I would recommend you consult w/ either an anesthesiologist or physiatrist (if you aren't yet seeing one of these).

@shewhofeels Hi can you please offer me any advice. I've been on 200mg of fentanyl for the past 8yrs. I change them every 72 hrs. I had spinal surgery but now I believe I'm getting better. The thing is how do I now stop taking the meds? I wasn't aware of opiate addiction until I tried to stop. I thought I was dying and told my GP what I'd done. Her words to me we're, "you just can't stop those meds like that" Please any help will be greatly appreciated, from anyone.

Good luck to you...and hats off to your dropping the fentanyl. If ya ever need to talk, I'll be a friend. I have severe chronic pain from spina bifida. Fentanyl is one of the worst drugs to withdraw from. Ive done it. I understand your desire to have a child...that desire that comes from the pit of your soul. Spina Bifida robbed me of having a baby naturally, but I Refuse to let it rob me of my happiness. Anyways, nice to meet you.

@Neelloc1973 (part 5 of 5): If you are eligible and can afford it, there is a procedure called RAD (rapid anesthesia detox) which requires an inpatient stay at a licensed clinic and you are put under anesthesia then forced into acute withdrawal. When you wake up you're through the worst of it. This takes several hours and typically patients stay inpatient for 4 days post-procedure. Good Journey and please keep me posted! XOXOX

Hey there. I took your advice and I'm really glad I did. I was on 50mcg/hr changing every 48. The doctor wanted me to drop down to 25mcg/hr and change every 72. I thought that was way too fast, so we finally compromised on 37mcg/hr and changing every 72. I changed to the lower dose for the first time yesterday, and have the typical chills, sweats, shaking, insomnia etc. I'm thinking of making a video diary to post on here too.

I have the mylan brand patches, so that's a good thing. The only meds I have to help with the withdrawal stuff is the hydrocodone I was using for breakthrough pain before, gabapentin, and imipramine. I actually did ok yesterday, but I just woke up now shaking uncontrollably again. I've been staying in bed mostly just trying to keep warm.

@vanorthea: [continued] Are you on the original Duragesic (gel reservoir) formulation or the Mylan (adhesive only) formulation? Many pts find the Mylan formulation provides superior relief & also makes tapering easier b/c they can be cut for smaller stepdowns at lower doses. Also do you have rescue (short acting) meds?

@disabledgrl: Not sure how I missed your message, but thank you so much for posting! How are you managing your pain now? I am sorry your illness has affected you so brutally. :( I am not even sure if all this has been worth it. I haven't been able to restore fertility. *sigh* Anyway, much love sweetheart! XOXOX

@shewhofeels I'm in the UK and while all meds and hospital app are free here, they won't give me the rapid detox procedure. I will ask though. I tell you this, I certainly didn't ask to be an addict. I know no person does. I just feel my meds should have been monitored more. Peace and love to you xxx

Hi, I'm actually going to be tapering off fentanyl patches starting next week. I'm on 50mcg/hr right now, and like you I have legitimate medical reasons to be on them. I'm only 31 and want to get off the opiates so I can reassess my pain and try other therapies. How is your struggle going now?

Gabapentin & hydrocodone will help. I would take both regularly to get you through your Day 3's. I am just appalled that your docs won't work with you more on this. So many of us suffer needlessly! That, to me, is not only a violation of Primum Non Nocere, but unconscionable as well. :(

Hey sweetheart! Thanks so much for updating me! *hugs* If needed, you may want to ask your doc if you can get Mylan patches and cut the 12ug/h in half for a smaller graduated stepdown. Please keep me posted and congratulations on your achievement thus far! Much love! XOXOX