I have tried to have reasonable discussions with people and what I
routinely see is people who have dishonesty in their motives start loud
talking, become so boisterous that they make it clear that you cannot have
a reasonable conversation with them. This happens as soon as you begin to
touch on a point that will begin to reveal their true motive. For example:
if Obama's policies are so objectionable by themselves, then why lie about
what they do? That's when right wing hostility will come out.