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pH of Two Mixed Solutions
How to find pH when two solutions have been mixed together.
But wouldn't we calculate the limiting reagent first?I mean when we mix hcl
and hno3,then 0.15 moles of hno3 will only react with 0.15 moles of
hcl...the remaining moles of hcl won't be neutralized/react and hence,we
will get the net H+ ion concentration only from 0.15 moles of H+ given by
HNO3 and 0.15 moles of H+ given my HCl....That means the net concentration
of H+ ions should be 0.15+0.15=0.3M...What am I missing here?
+spirit241000 When I check the internet HNO3 is mentioned as being a strong acid almost everywhere so I'm a bit confused about that with the mixed info and am going to confront the teacher who made me believe it being a weak acid later on, although according to the PSE he handed it out to us in class it is a weak acid. Also I'm reading about conjugated acids and bases, they are bassicaly the same molecule with a hydrogen more or less than the other one. So a totally different molecule can't be the conjugated form of another molecule. Even a molecule with more than one hydrogen, that could be exchanged, different isn't conjugated, e.g. H2SO4 is not the conjugated acid of SO4 2-, it is however the conjugated acid for HSO4-. And because HSO4- is amphoteric, meaning it can act as acid or base, it can also be the conjugated acid of SO4 2-.
+spirit241000 I made a little mistake in my last comment assuming that the H+ concentration would only be lower, when regarding HNO3 as a weak acid, because it bonds with the conjugated base of the weak acid into that weak acid. Actually the concentration would be lower because a weak acid doesn't dissolve completely, while in the video HNO3 does dissolve complete. Because of the strong acid it would still be less dissolved than if it were only the weak acid. So when I posted the pH wouldn't change so much I wanted to compare the pH of the weak and strong acid without the equilibrium shift of the weak acid to the left with the pH when it does shift to the left.I'm sorry if I made this somewhat complicated...
+spirit241000 Then HNO3 would take up H+ but I never heard of H2NO3+ before... What I've learned now is that the strong acid makes the stoichiometric equation of the weak acid flow to the left. The strong acid completely dissolves, making the concentration of H+ too high so they bond with the conjugated base of the weaker acid, in this example the conjugated base is NO3-, making the equilibrium of the weak acid flow to the left. If I'm right then I don't think that would change the value of the pH a lot. However in this example I think they both are regarded as strong acids. I used to think HNO3 was a strong acid myself but in class I was pointed out that it's just below H2O making it a weak acid. I've checked this on my PSE at the time. So if HNO3 was used as a strong acid in this example then both acids are strong and both dissolve completely. If you think of HNO3 as being the weak acid then the concentration of H+ will probably be a bit lower than in this example. My guess...
+veroaghe Correct, there is no chemical reaction between those acids. If you dissolved an acid and a base or had something that reacts, that would be a different story.
+wildglorypsn I'm not sure, I'm trying to work this out myself, but I don't think HCl en HNO3 react with each other because they are both acids. So they just dissolve in and react with the water in which they are dissolved.
+wildglorypsn I'm wondering the same thing, because HCl is clearly in excess to HNO3 so surely the reaction stops once 0.15moles of HNO3 has been use? I'm not understanding this breakdown at all I understand dissociation of HCl giving H+ and Cl- ions but I'm totally put off by the HNO3 I get that its dissociated but I'm not understanding the 2 different H+ values because they're both strong acids....
+Savage Colin You only use spectator ions when dealing with an equation (chemical change), all were doing is just mixing 2 acids.....lol this was a year ago, u probably dont care anymore lol
pH Titration Strong Acid Strong Base
50.0 mL of 0.100-M nitric acid, HNO3, is titrated with 0.100-M barium hydroxide, Ba(OH)2. Calculate the pH after 0.00 mL, 10.0 mL, 20.0 mL, 25.0 mL, 30.0 mL ...