Jolene Sugarbaker talks about the alarming announcement from Governor Patterson of New York to charge a tax on Sugared beverages. The Soda Tax MUST ...
You're a dumbass. I said the government would be thinking for you if they
BANNED soda, not if they taxed. You just keep repeating the exact same
argument, that I "can't think for myself". Nice debating skills. Right now,
the government is subsidizing corn that goes into processed foods to make
it cheaper. By your logic, the government is "thinking for me" and trying
to make me buy those kinds of foods. So the government can think for you
when it doesn't involve taxes? I think for myself, do you?
Do you think taxing cigarettes was a terrible idea? Was it awful of the
government to tax something that kills thousands of people? Sorry, I
forgot, cigarette use is declining, and anything the government wants to
happen is BAD! I said the government isn't "thinking for you" if they tax
soda, they're just collecting money from you to save up for when you're on
medicare and having heart attacks every other week. The Boston tea party
was about taxation WITHOUT representation. You're just whining.
I'm sorry if I'm misinterpreting your slaughter of English spelling and
grammar, but it seems like you think that subsidizing corn is irrelevant.
If making things more expensive to discourage people from buying them is
the government thinking for you, then making things cheaper to encourage
people to buy them is also the government thinking for you. It's the same
thing. As for "what America USED to stand for," there were many founding
fathers for stronger government. Hamilton. Learn about him.
The entire idea of taxing soda is not necassary. It comes down to US farm
policy. What is in our sodas and other junk foods.. HFCS! All you have to
do is stop subsidizing the production of corn and the price of soda will
increase naturaly. The only reason to grow corn is subsidies. W/o
subsidies, corn production will stop until the market the price rises (due
to lower supply). Just let basic free market econ take over & the price
will go up on it's own. HFCS is only cheep because of subsidies!
@mizzpeller, so they choose junk-food over their cholesterol, blood-sugar
and blood pressure lowering medication lol. I don't mean to be cynical, but
the irony is there. Yes junk-food is cheaper than healthy food. But make
its producers pay for its long term cost on public health, productivity and
the environment. Then use the income from that industry to subsidize
healthy food, health care and organic farms. This way old people will need
less - but afford more medication and healthier food.
I'm not arguing? All you seem capable of doing is yelling about how you
don't need the government to think for you and insulting me. You still
haven't addressed why you're ok with subsidizing corn but not taxing soda.
I need to brush up on my American history?! I'm pretty sure the Pilgrims
left to set up a Puritan settlement, not because of soda taxes. You seem to
have a very basic knowledge of the founding fathers. Some of them supported
strong government. They were called the Federalists.
WildCherry7777. I don't know where in Dallas you are. But, it's $5.60 a
gallon for whole milk at the Tom Thumb on Lovers. It's .88 for one orange.
For ONE orange. And it's not just food. I paid $360 for my org chem book
for this term. My roommates and I live on huevos con chorizo burritos,
fideo (it's like a poor mans hamburger helper only Mexican), Ramen noodles
and care packages from home.(BTW Jolene. You should do a show on the foods
you can add to Ramen noodles to make them quite tasty)
the gist of the overall video is 'cheaper is better'. if this were a decent
mantra to live by, we would be the healthiest ppl in the world. funny how
ppl bitch and whine about the cost of this and the taxes on that, but we
always seem to find money for beer, cigarettes, internet, lottery tickets,
iphones, cable t.v.... maybe, just maybe it's time we look past the ends of
our own noses when making decisions. take responsibility for what you put
in your own body. your health is the payoff.
hey boy genius, try doing a little research regarding the colonists and the
'tea party'. you may find out that was 'hella' more than about taxes on
tea. look into 'taxation without representation'. it may open your eyes a
little. or do you think we american citizens are motivated and organized
enough to fight ANYTHING? when is tha last time you saw americans effect a
change in anything (with the notable exception of the voting process)? i
doubt we could get the jaywalking law repealed.
@Diosdebaca exactly! I'm not blaming the consumer tho, like Jolene said,
that's all some of us can afford. I blame the f-ed up prices. I am all for
a soda (sugar) tax, I'd even support a fat tax that increases according to
level of saturation and cholesterol. Subsidize organic fruits and veg.
instead of high fructose GM corn and animal products...With taxes, we still
have a choice, you just pay for the long term effects brought on society
and the environment by our (over)-consumption.
Thank you for this video, Jolene! You have a great forum that allows you to
address the things that are causing the public a lot of suffering lately. I
think people need those with the means to do it, to identify with the
publics strong concerns about where our "leadership" is taking us. I also
believe that subjects like this can be handled in a comic or "light
hearted" way but still hit the nail. In my opinion, its best to connect
with others on the concerns of the day. Thank you.
@Diosdebaca this video was made before Obama and maybe Jolene exaggerated a
lil bit but junk food is always cheaper than fresh fruits. Maybe that's
where the problem is. If you're gonna make bad stuff expensive, then you
should make the good stuff cheaper so people at least have "the right
choice" left, rather than no choice. jstherapeutic makes a point tho.
Here's an idea, you can't use food stamps to buy alcohol or cigarettes
right? So then junk food should be off limits too:)
Hey you! Thanks for the hello the other day. I cant answer back thankyou
YouTube mobile! Yet do have on my playlist my email. Your wonderful and I
read your Wikipedia very neat! Now onto the topic! I work at a huge grocery
chain here in Ottawa Canada as a cashier. The costs are terrifying. I now
work overnight alone making salads and fruitbowls. The kicker? My wage is
nine bucks an hour and many bowls cost that! I cant tell you except when I
have yogurt when I had fruit! SAD.
You can stop replying any time you want. The colonists fought taxation
without REPRESENTATION, which you have if you're over the age of 18. And
corn has everything to do with soda, because it's the reason why soda is so
cheap and available. You're not arguing with me at all, you're just failing
miserably at trying to invalidate my arguments, which you haven't yet done.
Some founding fathers supported taxes after the war. Ever heard of the
whiskey tax? Washington passed it.
All non-essential foods that have health negatives should be taxed into
oblivion. I say this as a person with a chocolate & sugar problem. :-) A
bigger problem is probably meat, dairy and eggs. Tax those first, and kill
the subsidies for those industries. Tell you what, we'll let you eat that
crap, but you sign a waiver saying you'll never ask the taxpayers to help
you if you stroke out, wreck your joints or otherwise become disabled- noo
medicaid, no medicare. Deal?
As for the government invading your free choice, well, if your opposed to
the idea of taxes, then, I can't exactly argue with you. But, excise taxes
are applied to anything from gasoline to cigarettes. A tax on soda is, to
me, a fine idea because soda incurs a cost to society in the form of an
increase in health care costs due to higher rates of diabetes and obesity.
Soda costs society. Society has a need, and right, to mitigate that cost in
a reasonable manner.
the food "industry" & the fda are the reason farmed goods are so expensive.
they have fooled you into thinking its about "grown folks" making there own
choices. the choice has already been made for you. they want you to buy
cheap unhealthy "product" so they tax organics, (farm foods) and the
farmers almost out of business while @ the same time allowing companies to
create thousands of chemical combinations atop corn based space fillers @
little cost to them.
Next time you go shopping...take his ass with you. Seriously! I'm near SMU
in the Park Cities/Highland Park area. We don't have a WalMart near here. I
think the closest is in Richardson on Central Expressway. There is a word
they use in economics. It's called hyper-inflation. And this is what's
happening. Upside...my roommates and I, all got care packages from home,
and my mom sent 20 dozen tamales and a equal amount of tortillas.
WHOOOHOOOOO
Its your life, live it how you want it, but if you want to make stupid
choices you really should pay. Other peoples' stupid choices cost the rest
of us billions of dollars every year to deal with the consequences. There
should be a heavy tax levied on cooking fats as well. Gluttony is wasteful,
unhealthy and expensive, but it seems to be very common in America, this
needs to change in order to bring America's healthcare costs under control.
Risking restarting that firestorm, I find this an interesting issue. While
I understand that idea that this is somehow restraining public choice, and
taxing food, people are correct when they say that soda and the like is a
LUXURY ITEM. It has no nutritional value, you don't need it to survive, or
even have a good meal. Stop acting like the government is taking your food
and leaving you to starve. Its /SODA/. You don't need it. At all.
Bring back soda macines in school. I though the purpose of school was to
teach kids. I guess they fail again as usual, they can't even teach kids
how to make the right choices. No they remove the machines and everyone
hurts. I know because the place where someone dad works loses money because
of this. Does Dad or Mom need to lose work or hours because of this? Now
this same kid wont go to college. Dad couldn't save enough.
Yeah, and don't forget how the CIA scientists created Bigfoot by
genetically engineering a hybrid from yourself and a normal human being.
They did this to create a perfect fighting being to battle the aliens that
the former KGB brought here to defeat capitalism. Then there is Elvis, John
Kennedy, the loch ness monster, Marilyn Monroe and the other endless
Goverment conspiracies. Take the dam pills already!