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what about the technical trade programs at lester b pearson vocational
college? I am talking about Plumbing heating.It is one single program
called Plumbing Heating.2 years,4 semesters.My question to you is..is this
program open for international students as well?if yes, then can an
international student get OPEN POST GRAD WORK PERMIT after completing this
plumbing course, just like computing and management course which is
exclusively for Indian students?
My cousin is a certified plumber from ITI(industrial training institute) in
New Delhi.I would like him to come here and pursue a career in plumbing but
there are no 2 year programs in Plumbing in any other province in Canada
except Quebec.My cousin has 4 years of experience as a service plumber in a
big plumbing contracting company in new delhi.He is still working there.his
english is okay too.he got 6.5 in IELTS.Can you also tell me what his PR
prospects will be after he completes this course,if at all he can secure an
admission into that college in this plumbing heating program? Can you
please help me with this?
I have been searching a lot on this for almost a month now but havent
really got any clear information from the college when I called them or
their website either.
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when will there be an equally vetted panel of men?
i get that women can speak for men i do but i seem to be seeing only women
speak for men lately and this needs to change and quick...
+fixt100: You didn't read what I said. Ok. Moving on. Out- group preference works in our favour in this case. That's just an observation, not an endorsement or a proscription. Even were there no such benefit from their participation I would still argue for strict equality as a guiding principal, since A\ men's rights emarge as a corollary from that principal and B\ it is a value that affirms the rights of the individual, therefore the rights of everyone.TLDRI have one standard. Merit. Anything else you can bring to the table is gravy.
+Be Compassionate (formerly Salientgraphic91)yet you are willing to directly use the out group preference for women to your benefit? seems like a double standard you have there? gender shouldnt matter "except" when its beneficial? you already admit gender does matter and i agree which is exactly why it shouldnt be all women speaking all the time for men's rights ((as in it should be something to guard against and made note of when it happens, for exactly the reason its a known bias.)
+fixt100: When the identities of those being asked to speak becomes more important than what is said, then the movement has become an ideology. We don't need a fixated structure to talk about men's issues. There is still an undiscovered country of research that needs to be done, on domestic violence, child abuse, on paternity issues and reproductive rights. Issues that have been purposely sidelined by gender ideologues for the past 50 years. Objective and rigorously obtained information is sorely lacking.Look what happened to feminism: They formulated bizarre rationalizations based on one half of the story. Those rationalizations became the tenets of a dogmatic ideology. That's when they became politically strong, and at that moment, became incapable of delivering objective equality. Ironic, yes?In the meantime the question is: Do we want to be politically strong, or, do we want to build a movement based on rational argument that is able to deliver real equality? I'm talking about the equality of abortion and paternal surrender, of default shared custody, of due-process under the law, of equal oppurtunity to education, and so on.On that basis then, everyone who has something of merit to say should be allowed to speak. Let's be real, strict equality cannot hurt us, they way things are now. By re-affirming strict equality now (the right to speak regardless of gender) we re-affirm the rights of men who speak out later.
+Be Compassionate (formerly Salientgraphic91)sure but it is a group for men isnt it?so why have i seen "amazing woman" after amazing woman stepping up to grab credit lately? there have been men before and there are men now who should be speaking and to be honest you yourself even admit theres a bias and that alone tells me that theres should be men placed to speak if theres a known bias.(you know to even it out?)
+fixt100: Men's out-group preference for women helps bring men into contact with these ideas and issues. If the ideas themselves have merit, which they do, then over time men will see the necessity to address the inequalities they have been living with (all their lives) in their own ways. Be it at the personal level or beyond. I've been loosely following CAFE for a while. They manage to bring varied and interesting men and women from different backgrounds to their talks, and, they manage to create an environment where disagreement is acceptable, and agreement is non-compulsory.
+oeuioeui Actually, there were roughly 40 people in the Audience and the capacity of the room is about 70-100 people. The first 2 rows normally end up being mostly empty.
I'm a bit perturbed that there are a panel of women asking for men to show
their emotion in a similar fashion to women. Males show their emotion just
in a different way. Personally there is no way in hell that I'd want to
show my emotion the same way women do I like my stoicism thank you.
+Canadian Association for Equality Asking men to "open up" about their problems is in some ways an insistence on men and boys to yet again be the the instigator in dealing with their problems, why can't women use some of that "intuition", "empathy" and "compassion" they are famed for and simply notice that we need help and do something about it without having to be asked. Like women expect of us?Ok, that was a slightly unfair rant, I know some women who do not stand idley by. But do you see what I am saying? BTW would women actively helping men, by using the above famed skills be considered "Womaning up"? :D
+Sadochrist, Canadian Association for Equality: Men don't 'open up' because there is a disempowering consequence for men when they do so: If a man looks for help from another person or group he surrenders some of his agency to that person or group. He becomes liable to the dictates of that person or group. I hope people can see the difference: 'Surrendering personal agency' and 'Not wanting to appear vulnerable' are not the same thing.
+Canadian Association for Equality Here is a checklist to get men "open up": 1. Become someone he can rely on; 2. Earn his trust; 3. Sit quietly with him in a private room for awhile. However, most people are not even qualify for the first thing on the list. Not even mentioning we human tend to form gynocentric society which care less about males. So who would want to go such an extra mile to get a man "open up"? Btw, the same checklist can be used to "open up" a girl. Trust me if you are okay to trust a random stranger guy on the internet. haha.
+Canadian Association for EqualityI think that men suffer in silence because there often isn't a suitable outlet for them to emote in the way they feel most comfortable with. They are constantly told they have to "open up" when that isn't natural for most men and the ways men normally deal with their issues get compounded with responsibility.I've see that men usually seem to feel that it is their duty to look after everyone around them and not themselves which is a beneficial trait to humanity but not for the individual man. I really don't think that "opening up" the way women do is helpful advice but maybe another approach would be that recognizes this trait in men.
+Sadochrist it depends on why. Sometimes men would rather suffer in silence and quietly commit suicide than appear vulnerable or ask for help. Hence the call for men to open up. On the other hand, Theryn Meyer has a seemingly opposite recommendation when she says that saying "Man Up" is often good advice and should apply also to women.
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