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jewish hedge fund manager paul singer is the one battling argentina for
money he did the same with congo .jews are scums they will sell their own
mother for money
+Hans Wolf Of course, Merkel is an American geek, she always was. Her husband is too submissive for my taste. But k, some folks have the hots for such a domina thing ha
+Ana Surena Vandenberg i would even say angela merkel is a little bit more beautiful than this faceliftet el presidente but just a little bit hahaha.angie merkel is a geek a nerd she is a physicist.but this el presidente from argentina looks like she studied and worked in a special etablissement and i dont talk about a nailstudio.
+Hans Wolf No, she doesn't. That's why you'd hardly see any close-up of this woman, one that always reminds me of a wooden doll face w/ adjustable mandible to offer the illusion as if she'd speak and not perhaps the U.S. puppeteer ha
+Ana Surena Vandenberg there is no diffrent in the uglyness of angela and this el presidente from argentina but at last angie merkel accept here age lol .
Next month we'll definitely know if we are in or out.
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And also, because we are CIVILISED human beings and not animals, if you
want to be part of a well functioning society, then you will have to pay
taxes to maintain shared infrastructure, minimum healthcare, education and
a social safety net, among other things. If not, you can rejoin the animals
and spend MOST of your TIME defending (by violence) your property from the
other "animals" in a jungle economy, just like all other animal species do
everyday of their hard lives almost without exception.
Not on the last 10 years but I remember that from 2003 to 2008 ur country
grew largely, infact it was a really attractive country. Considering
poverty we are worse than before, before the crisis we had only a 20 and
now we have a 25. But 40 years ago we only had 15. Inequality was the
lowest in the continent, now is the highest together with Brazil. We had
the best education statistics, now we are 7th, the best healthcare, now we
are 3rd.Corruption started largely in the 70's. what a coincidence
but the whole region grew almost at the same path none of the other
countries of the continent had a -25 per cent recession frm 1999 to 2003,
what I hate most is that ppl say it was the government,it was the ppl that
gathered in cooperatives and restored factories for example. It was the
farming sector that decided to invest despite all adversities which donated
lots of food to the poorNow due to the new measures the situation is really
bad.I hope u SA dnt let Zuma do calamities as Cristina does
I'm not going to cult radio, I've read enough technical essays by free
market "experts" at the Mises Institute. I'm not going to listen to FREE
MARKET FANTASY IN THE BRAIN videos either, because that is what a free
market is, a PHILOSOPHICAL construct with NO TRUE COUNTERPART in REALITY.
If you cannot convince me, just like SO MANY others have failed to, because
I can always find a factual inconsistency in their arguments, I'm not going
to spend hours hearing about something that doesn't exist.
Their answers are all hypothetical. I've seen enough videos by Robert
Murphy and Peter Schiff and have read too many Mises Institute articles,
none of which have convinced me of anything except that the people who hold
free market beliefs live in a fantasy world. Their gurus are just like the
"scientists" who predicted the end of the world on 21 December. There is no
such thing as a free market and can never be, if you can't even debate that
point, then you don't understand your own philosophy.
I said free-market INSPIRED in reference to Europe, because just like
Stalin and his friends used "communism" to justify their domination of the
Soviet Union (they were "more equal" than others after all), leaders in
Europe are using free market "principles" to justify their control of
Europe. That's what happens to all religions in REALITY, they get distorted
and are used to control people. They all sound wonderful in theory, but can
never work in reality, because they are too black and white.
If the economy is weak, moderate inflation will be bad, I agree. And as
Weisbrot says in the video, the weak economy is probably the major reason
why people are protesting. The Argentine government will have to do
something about it. If they don't the people will get tired and kick them
out, which is understandable. But that does not mean that they've not done
an excellent job the last 10 years. Neoliberalism in Europe is showing
AGAIN how TERRIBLY BAD it is for helping countries out of crisis.
Yes, there were more lootings than in Bariloche. I looked up ALL the videos
of lootings I could find on youtube. ALL the videos on youtube of lootings
I saw showed people carrying off electrodomestic appliances 99% of the
time. A private monopoly does NOT lie!? Have you heard of the Rupert
Murdoch scandal in the UK, and seen what powerful private media are capable
of in the RICH world? And you believe an oilgarchic one in a developing
country would not lie. Do you even live in the real world!?
Argentina is less unequal than Chile, Brazil, Mexico, and Colombia. Your
GINI coefficient (a standard indicator of economic inequality) was 45.8 in
2009, making you the 36th most unequal country in the world, about as
unequal as the US (GINI 45). Chile's GINI was 52.1 in 2009, Brazil's is
51.9 this year, Mexico's was 51.7 in 2008 and Colombia's 56 in 2010 (see
CIA world factbook). This means Chile is the 15th most unequal country in
the world and Brazil the 16th. Don't know where get your data.
If you watched this video properly and listened carefully you would see
that even using the independent estimates of inflation (25%) the Argentine
economy still expanded 88% in real terms between 2002-2008. See the
technical report by Weisbrot: The Argentine success story and its
implications. I'm talking about inequality (GINI), not poverty. Anecdotal
evidence (photos) does not pass for universal truth. I can show you photos
of my country that would make it look either very rich or very poor.
That's because many of the poor obtain benefits with almost no
sacrifice.The education in Arg disencourage low class to dignify themselves
working but instead obtaining benefits through government plans.The cost
would be producing more money than the government should,thus helping the
inflation,which affects people who actually has savings.Another cost would
be a low investment on security planning and on mantaining the economy
steady.Current government don't care about it's country steadiness
During the Kirchner's period GDP grew at constant 7 per cent but after a
recession in 2001 in which GDP went down to -30 per cent. Poverty is of 25
per cent still higher than before the crisis, unemployment is growing due
to this year's economic measures and many farming sectors, real estate,
automotive and IT are in deep recession, while GDP only grew 1 per cent
during the whole year. She spends money in doing fairs, festivals, Free
soccer tournaments instead of repairing the trains and roads
(2/2) That's the difference between ANECDOTE and STATISTICALLY COLLECTED
AND ANALYSED EMPIRICAL DATA. The UN uses SCIENTIFIC techniques of data
collection and analysis to compile data on poverty levels and living
standards in its annual Human Development Index of 187 countries. According
to that index Argentina is the country after Chile (and very close to
Chile) with the highest standard of living in Central and South America. If
you only have anecdotes to offer, I won't discuss this further.
It depends, u knw that the bread basket in Argentina is high? There is no
way there is a 14 per cent of poverty, remember that slums have grown since
2007( same year Cristina Kirchner asumed, what a coincidence) If u want to
see how the Indec has manipulated statistics, search for Graciela
Bevacqua's reports, a former worker of the Indec. I'm not a supporter of
neoliberalism, I want just a much economy for the industrial and farming
sector, but I want higher restrictions on mining and finances
No DEFINITION of poverty supplied in your article, therefore comparison is
useless. According to the World Bank, in 2010, poverty (less than US $4
/day), was 14.6% in Argentina, lower than in 1992 (15.9%), when
neoliberalism began. In 1998, 23.7% lived on less than $4/day. It peaked at
45.5% in 2003. Extreme poverty (less than $2.5/day) was 6.6% in 2010, in
1998 it was 10% and 5.9% in 1992 before neoliberalism. It peaked at 29.2%
in 2003. I use international definition of poverty (US $ /day).
You know the Argentine government manages the statisticS?. Its ridiculous
there is no way we are at the same place of United States. Give me your
email if u dont believe me and I will show u where poor ppl live, there are
no places like that in USA. There is a seven per cent that has to look for
foods in the streets and open garbage bags. That is unseen in United
States, and u can go to a very nice neighbourhood and see ppl looking for
food.they ring at the doorbells and ask for food aswell.
You want them to see YOUR personal minority viewpoint as the ONLY possible
efficient way to organize society (even though there is no physical proof
of that). This is why the free market worldview is extremist, because it
advocates for things that are not based on reality: "I am advocating for no
violece in the interaction". So, when somebody tries to steal from you, are
you going to advocate for no violence in that interaction? You only support
the use of force when it suits your purposes.
I'm not saying Argentina has the lowest inequality in the world, or that it
isn't in a dificult moment at the moment (but which doesn't come close to
being as bad as Europe or my own country's situation right now). However,
unless you show me a scientific study recognised by the UN, or do one
yourself and have it vetted by the UN, I'm going to take ANECDOTAL evidence
for what it is, ANECDOTAL. I know Clarin is running these stories 24/7, but
that doesn't mean that the looting is widespread.
I'm Brazilian, my country has as much corruption as yours. But I'm happy
with the way it has been run in the last 10 years. Much less poverty,
better economy, just like Argentina. We have that kind of movement too:
upper middle class asking for "peace" and "against corruption", heavily
supported by the corporate media, no mention of social justice or anything
of the kind. In the end, they are mostly people who are quite well-off and
can't stand the government giving some crumbs to the poor.
Pop psycho-babble. So they can exchange things in the way they want: sex
slaves, child prostitutes, people's organs, etc? Sounds great to me. There
is NO "in the way they want". There are always rules that determine where,
what, where and how they can exchange. The free market cannot exist without
laws, otherwise its the jungle economy. Private property rights like other
rights are a social contract, not absolute or laws of nature. Without the
acceptance of the majority, they mean nothing.
You've just become greedy and want the majority to accept anything you do
as if it were your god-given right. It is not, you are subject to the same
laws we all are (with laws better in certain places than others) and we all
decide together about what is acceptable or not. The goverment is as
natural a product of human evolution as the market is, and when it is
forced to work well (it is our duty to force it to work properly), it can
be a powerful tool for development just like the market.
If the policies didn't matter then Europe would now be experiencing a
similar fast recovery. But it isn't, 5 years into the recession Ireland,
Portugal, Spain, Italy and Greece's economies are still SHRINKING. It
doesn't matter that Greece is about as corrupt as Argentina, or that
Ireland is relatively clean of corruption (see 2012 Transparency
International corruption perceptions index), the SAME BAD economic policies
followed by the Kirchners predeccesors are killing Europe's economy.
I don't believe 25% inflation is bad if real incomes and standards of
living are rising as the UN human development index and Weisbrot report
show. South Korea had TWO decades of inflation of around 20% and the
fastest growth in the world in the 1970s and 80s. Three World Bank studies
by an ex-chief economist M. Bruno and senior WB economist W. Easterley show
that inflation of up to 40% has no adverse effect on growth. You had
hyperinflation during the neoliberal years: 20000% in 1990.
Argentina's economy is strongly coupled to Brazil's (22% exports to
Brazil), which is expected to grow only 1.5% this year, while Argentina is
expected to grow 2.6% (October 2012 IMF estimation). Brazil's industrial
production rate has been negative for almost a year, but jumped from -3.8
to + 2.3% this month, and Argentina's from -4.4 to +2.2% almost exactly
mirroring Brazil. Your economy will get stronger into the new year as long
as Brazil's (6th largest economy in the world) does.
So u are South African...u should understand us. The FPV( Front for
Victory) is like the ANC, very very corrupt, most of her ministers tripled
their fortune aswell as the senators and deputies. She and her husband made
their fortune grow from 10 million rands to 70 million. We knw she is not
communist the thing is that we grew due to international market just as
Brazil and SA frm the period 2003-2008, if I'm not mistaken during Thabo
Mbeki's second government GDP grew 6 per centb rate
Yes, Argentina recovered to trend economic growth because it implemented
good and realistic macroeconomic policies not based on the fantasies of
extremists from the free market cult. Their policies are now being
implemented in Europe and with/without corruption (compare Greece/Italy -
as corrupt as Argentina - and Ireland) is destroying Europe's economy.
Recovery is nowhere in sight after 5 years of crisis, while Argentina was
well on its way to recovery in 2006, 5 years after 2001.
The free market is based on cheap philosophy, not scientific evidence.
Because it's sounds logical in theory, does not make it achievable in
practice. There can be no such thing as a free market because ALL markets
run on rules and regulations which those who participate have to follow.
Whoever sets the rules can control the market. The powerful and wealthy
will always use their leverage to try to stack the rules in their favour,
as they have done throughout history. That's reality.
Property rights are guaranteed by force, the force of the laws enforced by
government. Government is part of a social contract, one that the majority
accepts and which guarantees the use of force in the case of a violation of
a MAJORITY-DEFINED property and other rights. Without this acceptance by
the majority of the legitimacy of laws we become like animals which take
property from each other by force all the time. Property rights are NOT
absolute or a law of nature, no rights are.
Competition/anti-trust law is how the government can stop concentrated
benefits. Contrary to the religious beliefs held by free marketeers,
information, competition and markets are not perfect. Dispersed cost is a
result of this imperfection. This is also known as reality. What stops
regulatory capture of private regulators? I'm assuming you want private
regulation. Without rules and regulations, efficient markets cannot exist
because everyone cannot trade based on their own rules.