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First of all, Germany isn't in the sex aspect a medieval theocracy like the U.S Empire. Secondly, if university studies or whatever aren't free, they have to pay for it somehow. Are there no other jobs, why not this? . I most certainly hope there are less degrading forms of labour the students can choose if they feel unwilling to this but, again, when you are forced to pay for education what are you going to do? The alternative would be to be locked in a permanent poverty circle with minimal pay

@DrQuijano Germany needs more qualified people. If they weed out the willing and possibly qualified just for the sake of doing so, it leads to the situation they have now, which is a lack of qualified people. Your speculation is (sadly) correct. What the government doesn't take into account though is the afore mentioned lack of qualified workforce. Which means the government is happier providing work to less qualified Germans than qualified outsiders. Even though they should pay the same taxes.

@computerjero Finally, there is no denying that Harvard is one of the best universities worldwide, but right now Ox-Bridge are making more of a splash in research, the red bricks are raising in rank while the ivy leagues are going down, Europe is focusing on cheap/free education for all while the US is focusing on turning its not-so-cheap public institutions (UCLA, UT, etc) into expensive private-public voucher crap, and Toudai U and universities in India are being hailed as having the best ed.

Yeah the Bologna Plan was an American invention, photocopied off ALEC, make money off education means off students as well. Takes a generation to get people accustomed to crazy stuff. Why not avoid money and do a direct trade with the VCs or professors? Heck, why not make sex work compulsory on enrolment and get rid of school fees for all. Everyone would be happier to have orgies and a free education as well. Maybe, Profs will stop being so competitive with each other and with students..

@computerjero you're right about the current standard of former soviet states' education - i meant it was the highest in the world, especially when it came to science and medicine, but due to the collapse of their whole system and funding it broke down and is now not as good as it formerly was. the thiong about the german education is true though: the education is better than in the US. it may be getting worse and worse, but compared to the US it's like "the academic's wet dream".

@computerjero Courses weed out students because they are aware that education doesn't happen in a room with 30 + people, and the smaller the class size the better for the students. Because they know this, they limit the amount of people who can enroll. This is also common practice in the universities that I have visited in Spain, Portugal, and Italy. They need more graduates because a high percentage of students graduating is a requirement for accreditation and university rank.

@computerjero education in the US IS NOT better than in ALL OF EUROPE! the further you go east, the better it gets. in fact, in former soviet states they had the highest levels of education. when i look at what my mom leaned in serbian high-school, i must say todays education in germany isn't even near as good! unfortunately after the soviets went down the western countries didn't accept their education and many doctors and scientists ended up in far less attractive positions.

@DrQuijano America really does need to improve it's current system, no doubt about that. Even though Europe is focusing on such education it's system still is a mess, albeit relatively better than the American one. From my experiences I would say university should concentrate on understanding, not only on knowledge. That give a degree more meaning. It would show graduates actually understand what they have been doing, instead of just know what they've been doing.

@computerjero Basically, if a university accepts very few students, graduates all of them, and puts most of them to work they have 3 of the 6 requirements for high international ranking, the others being a low faculty to student ratio, solid doctoral programs, and high research volume. I guess it's difficult for educated foreigners to find work in Germany because (speculation) Germany would rather employ their own people instead of hire outsiders.

@DrQuijano If education in Germany is so respected why are they cutting the educational budget ? Why do courses so radically weed out students, when they so desperately need more graduates ? Why is it so difficult for educated foreigners to work in Germany ? Why does BAFoG have such discrepancies when setting the amount of aid ? In terms of quality, American universities seem to better, in terms of equal opportunity, Germany is indeed better.

@DrQuijano I'm not talking about entering uni, I'm talking about weeding out while they're studying. I have friends studying similar subjects, but the profs take material out of higher semesters thus increasing the workload for beginners to an incredible level. In addition they click through 100-200 slides in ONE lecture. Result is an at least 70% dropout rate. I can guarantee you not all drop-outs are lazy and/or stupid. I find that very sad.

So? College is free here and there are lots of other jobs available. It is just that sex work is very well paid. As long at it is all voluntary and you are not forced into it through economic hardship.. I don't see anything wrong with this (I am German, would not do it personally but..) Who cares? Americans need to loosen up with the Sex thing.. It is at the same time over sexed and repressed, not a good combination.

@computerjero I can answer some of those, but I must admit ignorance in others. Why cut education? The same reason that governments are doing it everywhere - systemic corruption and pandering to the wealthy. Still, the general population respect education more in Germany (where everyone is encouraged to study) than in the US (where every day an article comes out saying that college isn't worth it).

@shotsky94 You're confusing Germany with Scandinavian countries. Not that they are "socialist"; they are socio-democratic. I know little of Germany, only been there a few times. However, while schools are free, you still need money for food and rent. We usually get that by lending money from the state, but it is something many want to avoid, thus they work on the side.

mhhh... i wonder which unversity they mean? FU oder HU? @reanimeviewed 1500 € normal? sorry not really... first many unversitys don't have tuition the classic way, your only pay twice a year and in the CAU Kiel (where i study) thats is about 250€ in one year. I geuss Kiel is more or less the cheapest, but in generally 1500 is not standart.

@m0rbusPolytox I never claimed it was better than in all of Europe, just better than Germany. I'm not sure about your claim about it getting better going east. I've been to Ukraine and they have obsolete schedules due to obsolete hardware and methods. Maybe they were great a few decades, however I'm assume it isn't so anymore.

I hate getting through school always worrying about how to pay for your school fees. It almost feels like you are working more than studying which is not so good. It fucks up your education and takes twice as long to graduate. I mean it sucks even more not being a citizen and not being able to get student aid.

I call BS. I study in Germany, there are no university fees here and every student can ask for federal support for living costs (which I did) and that support is sufficient to live on. Most students here do not even work a part time job because the money from the support is sufficient.

I went through University with a girl that danced as a stripper to fund her way through school. She was also able to afford her own car and a condo at the same time. She never considered making dancing a career, just money through school, and it worked out very well for her too.

Because in Germany education is respected, people ARE WILLING to do sex work to pay for their education. In the US, however, where education is looked down on, people go to "get educated" in order to get laid.

@DrQuijano Any country that cuts on education doesn't understand it's importance and has therefore - in my eyes - less respect for it. A reason I claim Germany isn't as respectful.