I just started a new growth, my 4th grow (newbie). I was thinking to start
doing some BHO after next harvest from my two grow-tents. Growing 4 strains
this time: Sour Diesel, Pineapple Kush, White Widow, Blue Mystic.
nice brother. that sounds amazing :) I'm a total newb (obviously hahah) with BHO and growing too lol. thanks :)
Hot Water Purging Method for BHO (by Top Shelf Extracts) *1080p HD*
Here is a short video shot at the macro level which shows some recently-extracted mixed strain BHO being purged in a hot water bath. Heating the mixture with ...
Go for the grammar on the internet, nice! Where did you get you're masters
degree from all of a sudden with no shirt and those locks? "Weed knowledge"
rofl, no need to even go into that one you just made yourself sound like
you know why Christopher Columbus dicovered America. I'll tell you what he
powered the ships with. Once you wash material with butane, probably vector
in you're case. It chemically bonds to other molecules creating a higher
evaporating point. Step you're game up. Kid.
I can tell you're PROBABLY furious with anger right about now. Don't know
subject to pull out of you're ass and use next! You cool man, you cool. My
glass collection costs more than yo edumacation son. Man you wanted to make
it fun, it got fun then you took off like a little BYYYEEOOOTCHHH.
C'mon America - All these liberties. Must be the 10th "how to" video with
ZERO decent explinations about the things you are doing and HOW or WHY.. ??
We dont all live In Colorado and have slang terms etc use some decent
terminology for jebus sakes.
No, I just happen to be an educated person, unlike you who thinks "pry" is
an acceptable shortening for "probably". Butane evaporates at room
temperature, you ignorant fuck. You "pry" need to up your weed knowledge
game, kid.
okay so everyone says vac it, i don't have the currency to purchase a vac
and want to do small personal runs. is it okay to just heat purge small
runs say 7-10gs of ran nuggets?
Er, rather 110 f -120 f... terpenes start to drift out at around 120 f, so
it's advisable to keep temps under that if flavor and smell is your chief
concern.
I think alcahol gives you better concentrates I feel your pulling more than
your the out doing it this way cause when you use alcohol it's yellow that
started yellow but then went to green so when it went to green you started
to pull more than thc out of the bud
just because it clears up does not mean theres nothing left...the BEST way
I know to tell is catch a few drips on an un burned c.d. and when the
butane evaps you can see oil left behind...if any is left. I'm not an
expert shatter maker but I have blown a bit of bho and as a bit of a hobby
chemist,that is how I Have learned to test solvents like
naptha,hexane,pentane,chloroform,ether,and anything that evaps.
+Ighllc are you sure that mzx12 isn't pulling more chlorophyll out of the plant, as it starts getting greener way quicker with trim and usually turns black, where as if you use butane with that exact same product you get golden yellow product? And butane tube's are always packed way tighter so it must pull way more chlorophyll..as for it pulling more turpenes, that is clearly pure bullshit as you've never done any tests on it.. Plus I have no idea how peoples yields were larger then on butane..as I'm getting massive yield differences especially in my trim..nevermind the change in color..I have to throw the black stuff in edibles..mean while the golden honey comb or shatter I make with the trim is a beautiful product, turns out nearly the same color as my bud..also I figured out the reason it was sparking when I was doing the flame test was because some water got in it from the rain outside..anyways, butane is way better then this stuff in my opinion in every way except for purge times, and cheaper..thanks anyways, but I'll be stickin with my bho!
+Ighllc Ahh okay, so after reading the info on your site there is no Dichloromethane in it after all..I'm curious, if you say that it purges within hours..what is bubbling in tiny bubbles out of my shatter? 2 days later? It isn't staying in the bubble form it is actually popping, probably one bubble every minute..please explain to me that this isn't residual solvent left in there?
The aren't much left of anything at all part is what scares me..lol I want a 99% pure solvent, but as long as they are all food grade materials then I guess I'll have to work with it..regardless, I won't be buying another case because really if you read the comments from any page you really get to the truth, and 95% of all the comments in there are saying how much crap your product really is..and how you are really out there for the money, even skunkpharmresearch makes a joke that your selling snake oil.. Dichloromethane is known to be a serious health risk..nevermind all the other shit your putting in there, if you are only putting food grade chemicals..why not show it to the world? You saying that it purges in hours instead of days, allows me to know forsure that you are only out there for the marketing..and reading everybodies comments just confirms that. You havn't provided one shred of evidence to prove to me that it pulls more turpenes, so at this point your opinion to me is of a somewhat decent businessman who probably won't last too long in this industry unless you make some serious changes. Thanks for your feedback, although it didn't do anything as I had to answer all the questions I asked you by myself...and the ones you did answer were either false, or full of shit. Regardless..the truth will always come to light. +Ighllc
So far skunkpharmresearch is the only company that I've seen that has applied a complete test, but I'd still like to see how it varies to butane, a side by side test to actually prove that it pulls more turpenes instead of just saying it does. I will take your word for it that it is safe, as that is what the tests showed..but it still doesn't make me feel any better knowing that you guys aren't providing the information to people..regardless that's your choice..thanks for the feedback..much appreciated. +Ighllc
No it really doesn't.., you are evaporating it into a thick waxy/oil..in open air yes it does evaporate completely, but I read a forum from a tester in Seattle that said he would love to lab test it but unfortunatly he has no idea what's in it so they'd be shooting in the dark. Why don't you provide the list of ingredients so people can actually get this shit tested? I can take a video if you want to show you that the dimethyl-ether keeps on having a consistent boiling for days..how is that even possible if it completely evaporates? That's like saying butane completely evaporates, or alcohol does..yes, it does..if it is purged properly. And those tests really have no proof what so ever on how it pulls more turpenes, it was just one test, so really you're just feeding bullshit by the dozen..if you're the one who's making this shit, that really scares me. At this point, I really don't think you care about peoples health..only $$$$..if you did care about peoples health, or the claims that you say this solvent makes you would do complete scientific testing with multiple companies letting them know every single ingredient that is in there. +Ighllc
I don't understand what you meant by rising? Because it rises then pops then repeats itself over and over just like butane does..so I'm not sure if you are heating your product up enough to get the bubbles to pop or start a reaction or what? Or if it's better to just have them stay in the bubble form at lower temps? But having it spread thin..over 2 days, it is now nearly completely purged..i'd like to see some scientific evidence of a comparison of using butane to mz12x using the same material and proof that it pulls more terpenes..please and thank you +Ighllc
Well I seem to have made a hard breakable shatter first try, so I have no idea what you're talking about..or you have no idea what you're talking about..the consistency all has to do with the temperature, I have been able to make a budder, and a shatter using mz12x so I think you may be referring to temperatures using 120 degrees..what do you mean by when it rises?
+Wake Up MZ extraction does rise but doesnt pop and settle because it will not harden like butane does. When you have a lot of terpane in your extraction you cannot make complete shatter. Like royal jelly from honey farm...it will be in similar stage as honey wax.when it rises it means it is done purging...it pops because of its weight not because it is done purging. Purging process is already done when it rised to its max. There are pores created by terpane it actually let the gas out even though it is rises and doesnt pop.
It really works very similar to how butane does, and your right that no bubbles means there could be solvent still in it, but not if you remove the pressure, then repressurize it..so you know there isn't any gas or air in it forsure, so I did that..and still, bubbles rise in the mz12x, but don't really pop right away, they just stay in their bubble form and pop slowly..I'll do a flame test and see how much is still in there..
Only if it is spread really thin!!! I clearly proved that no matter how long you purge it if it is in a thick paddy then it won't purge even after 3-4 days...you should seriously inform people of this so they don't just assume that their shit is purged after a day, because it's not..a simple flame test will show them that..
+Wake Up Because ot stop bubbling doesnt mean it is done purging. Bubble only indicates pocket of gas or air within the wax. MZ12X doesnt need to purged for days to be safe whereas Butane cant.
I figured out that you have to have it spread out really thin for it to purge properly, it's funny you say that this solvent purges faster then butane, considering I have both butane and dimethyl-ether in there and the butane has stopped bubbling but the mz12x has not.. +Ighllc
+Ighllc Explain to me why it keeps on having a reaction days later? Concentrates are a thick waxy/oil, solvent's just don't come out right away..I'm going to keep mine in the vac until I see no reaction time period, and I want to see how long it actually takes..I honestly won't be buying it again, and I'm excited to return back to butane..
I know that they test for 0 ppm of that chemical, but what I'm saying is you don't know what else they are putting in there, they don't tell you their exact ingredients. It doesn't say 99% pure dimethyl-ether or anything like that, where as butane..anything that's 9x refined or higher is a pure non polar solvent where you get no additives. It's not the dimethyl-ether I'm worried about, I think that gets boiled off within the first few hours, if not minutes to be honest..it's all the other shit they are putting in there..
K, but have you done a flame test on it? Especially after you do a dab, and only do about 90% of the dab, and then put a lighter to what's left..it's fuckin gross, it just crackles like a firecracker..
+Wake Up pack it lose. you dont want too tight. When you use trimes you still get what you want but with extra terpane that is why it is darker doesnt mean you are getting anything bad.Butane doesnt pull terpane that is why it is lighter in color and also light on taste and scent as well.
Yea, we'll see..I'll try another run tonight, I havn't been getting massive differences in my yield either..it's pretty similar to what butane pulls..it seems I can't use anything but bud, or else it will just turn out straight black..which is strange cus if I run the exact same material with butane it turns out a golden amber..packed nice and tight. How tight should I be packing the extraction tube? I feel like with ground up material you just barely tap it in there?? +Ighllc
Because it doesn't stop bubbling, it has a really really slow reaction time at first, making it seem like it's done but this is my first case and I'm just experimenting seeing how dimethyl-ether and whatever other impurities they're putting in it compares to butane, so since it has a lower boiling rate, I've been using the difference butane boils at as a reference. I even let the pump run for over eight hours and still there was bubbles popping up until eventually they stopped but since it's a new product I thought I'd double check it, so I decided to make some edibles with some just to see if I decarbed it how many bubbles would come up and sure enough there were tons it took like half an hour on over 200 heat to get absolutely no reaction..I highly doubt I'm the first one out of thousands..or maybe I'm the only one to properly purge this shit? I made a budder with one, and a shatter with the other..they don't disclose what is in their products, and they were going to put a fire retardant in it at one point so I just don't trust the brand, and I'm even weary to use my last two cans. I'm lead to believe that the test they did had to be false because he didn't even use heat, and you can see all the shit still in there. I tried his method, with no heat and it tasted good but there was still tons of solvent still in it, and when I stuck it to a flame it lit up like nobodies business. So fuck that shit..I'm buying a co2 machine lol fuck these solvents...I tried four different shatters from a dispensary lastnight and they were all filled with butane. I'm sick of people giving people shitty medicine. Co2 is where it is at!! +lghllc
+Wake Up Than you will be the first one of thousands who wasnt able to purge at all. And why are you purging it for 3-4 days like butane ?All the 3rd party/user lab test shows clean but yours?
+Dean Cowdrey I have been purging this shit on same heat I would butane for 3-4 days and there is still tons of shit still in there, when I put a lighter to it it sparks like a firecracker, makes me wonder what the fuck they are putting in it.
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