How to love effectively Videos

LOVE SURROUNDS AND NOURISHES US

Thanks!

Thank you

+LoveLifeAndAnarchy Actually, Stefan is now pro-abuse. He sees abuse as a valid way to teach people about good and evil and to protect people from dysfunctional behaviour. Check my video called Evil.

+The Avens Show okay then

+LoveLifeAndAnarchy "I've listen to your video where you made a parody about defooing to an abuse family, to debooing to an abusive bunny. Did I get that wrong? I don't see the humour in that. I see you pissing on people who have actually defooed from abusive families when you denormalise that and make it about bunnies."Again, as I mentioned above, the parody is that "bunny" replaces Stefbot's commentary about "women" and by extension, possibly "mothers". De-BOOing vs. De-FOOing was articulating the tendency he has to consider non-idyllic parenting to be abusive inherently, and worth completely writing off family for. Real abuse? ABSOLUTELY, go deFOO and be merry.. I was specifically addressing the parts where he trying to read abuse where there isn't, or that imperfect parenting warrants completely cutting off all of your family. "You said:"Not sure why I'd waste my time with Stefbot. I don't need to listen to him rant for an hour about something that has no application to my life." Then you said:"I think some of his ideas are good and others bad"Do you not see the problem?"Nope. I think some of his ideas are good and others bad. I don't need to call into his show (what the first part was addressing) so he can rant for an hour (something he does) about stuff that has no relevance to me."If you think child abuse and defooing is humour, then that doesn't mark someone who has empathy. I would not consider a comedian making jokes about rape to a mostly female audience to have empathy, and I wouldn't consider a libertarian who is making jokes about child abuse to a libertarian audience to have empathy either. Blaming the audience just underlines that assumption."First you say you "would not consider a comedian making jokes about rape to a mostly female audience to have empathy" --- then you say "a libertarian who is making jokes about child abuse to a libertarian audience". So, you seem to think that libertarians are more likely to be victims of child abuse? Is that what you're implying?Since libertarianism is a philosophy of compassion and empathy, and apparently abusive childhoods make that harder not easier to accomplish, would that not follow that libertarians are less likely to have been raised abusively? Just trying to follow your logic here. "Yes. Parodying defooing is not how you do it. I subscribed to you when I first saw it because I thought you were another anti-FDR troll I could make videos about."I'm not an anti-FDR troll. I'm a thoughtful critic of reckless ideas. If Stef asserts something reckless or projecting, I'll criticize it. I have no special interest in Molyneux generally, nor do I hate him, or relish special pleasure in attacking him over others. There was a point in which I felt it was necessary to discuss him, primarily after someone else attacked him and his ideas without any context, caveats or recognition of a holistic approach, and I felt like defending a handful of his ideas and properly critiquing the rest. I want to see Molyneux back to actually discussing philosophy, and good philosophy at that. It's been far too long since we got anything worthy of "Story of Your Enslavement"."Oh please. You don't give a shit. I know you don't give a shit. If you gave a shit, you wouldn't be making a parody video about it. You wouldn't be making it about me. And you wouldn't resort to sophistry (my tiny, mocking, silly video) to denormalise what you said to make it look like that I have the problem. I was raised by a single mother and have dated lots of fucked up girls, I know the emotional tricks and can sense the passive-aggressive shit a mile away. You are not being honest with me, and you are not being honest with yourself. And I can't figure out why (given your upbringing)."You have no idea what I care about. I'm attempting to tell you and you're too interested in reading your own patterns and projections into your experiences, so lemme break it down for you, this scene? You can be Will Hunting, I can be Robin Williams. I actually give some fucks here, but you'd rather just think I don't, because I don't immediately cave to your version of PC. "That's concerning. I strongly encourage you to email Mike at FDR and tell him you'd like to have a conversation with Stefbot. Tell them you have been raised peacefully by libertarian parents and that you still think he is full of shit."I don't think Stef is full of shit. I think he's got some terrible ideas, and some good ones. Read. "Send them the parody link as additional resource. I am 100% serious when I say that conversation needs to be said and be out there. And you are in the unique position to have it. Perhaps one of the only people given your upbringing and what you know. It would be a great plug for your work, and I think the libertarian community would learn something from it."Why? What am I fighting with him over? False dichotomies, why are you so interested in this being a fight between the two of us?"Either he'll ignore you, and you can make a great blog about how he refused to have a libertarian who was peaceful raised by voluntary parents on his show, which goes against his core arguments. That would direct a lot of traffic to look into you."My being peacefully raised by voluntary parents is not going against his core arguments. My issues with him have pretty much nothing to do with his discussions on peaceful parenting. You're trying to make a fight where there isn't one. Sorry, the NAP has me disinterested in your drama mongering.

+The Avens Show >So, tell me this: you listened to my video that was a parody of Stefbots points about women, about his show in general and about his tendency to call any non-idyllic parenting abusive, and you saw it as an insensitive commentary on actually horrific child abuse situations?I've listen to your video where you made a parody about defooing to an abuse family, to debooing to an abusive bunny. Did I get that wrong? I don't see the humour in that. I see you pissing on people who have actually defooed from abusive families when you denormalise that and make it about bunnies.>I apologized to you for the fact that it came off insensitive. What more do you seek?I don't seek anything from you.>My stance on Molyneux is mixed - I think some of his ideas are good and others bad. I've asserted that numerous times.You said:"Not sure why I'd waste my time with Stefbot. I don't need to listen to him rant for an hour about something that has no application to my life." Then you said:"I think some of his ideas are good and others bad"Do you not see the problem?> I'm sorry you felt it was a subject that should be off-limits.That's not what I'm saying. And you are making this about me. If you think child abuse and defooing is humour, then that doesn't mark someone who has empathy. I would not consider a comedian making jokes about rape to a mostly female audience to have empathy, and I wouldn't consider a libertarian who is making jokes about child abuse to a libertarian audience to have empathy either. Blaming the audience just underlines that assumption.> Are we both aware of, interested in and advocating the non-aggression principle?Yes. Parodying defooing is not how you do it. I subscribed to you when I first saw it because I thought you were another anti-FDR troll I could make videos about.>I'm glad you got out of problematic situation for yourself, and I'm glad you're speaking well of the methods by which you did. I'm sorry you feel the need to defend it against my tiny, mocking, silly video which was made for friends and others who're inclined to find it funny. I didn't mean to make you feel invalidated for your life experiences.Oh please. You don't give a shit. I know you don't give a shit. If you gave a shit, you wouldn't be making a parody video about it. You wouldn't be making it about me. And you wouldn't resort to sophistry (my tiny, mocking, silly video) to denormalise what you said to make it look like that I have the problem. I was raised by a single mother and have dated lots of fucked up girls, I know the emotional tricks and can sense the passive-aggressive shit a mile away. You are not being honest with me, and you are not being honest with yourself. And I can't figure out why (given your upbringing).>I don't see where the issue is. That's concerning. I strongly encourage you to email Mike at FDR and tell him you'd like to have a conversation with Stefbot. Tell them you have been raised peacefully by libertarian parents and that you still think he is full of shit. Send them the parody link as additional resource. I am 100% serious when I say that conversation needs to be said and be out there. And you are in the unique position to have it. Perhaps one of the only people given your upbringing and what you know. It would be a great plug for your work, and I think the libertarian community would learn something from it.Either he'll ignore you, and you can make a great blog about how he refused to have a libertarian who was peaceful raised by voluntary parents on his show, which goes against his core arguments. That would direct a lot of traffic to look into you.Or, he'll take you on call, that would be exciting. I hope you think about it.

+LoveLifeAndAnarchy "Do you make parodies on circumcision, rape and murder? Or is child abuse, something you have no experience in, fair game compared to the others?"So, tell me this: you listened to my video that was a parody of Stefbots points about women, about his show in general and about his tendency to call any non-idyllic parenting abusive, and you saw it as an insensitive commentary on actually horrific child abuse situations?I apologize if that's how you saw it. That was not how it was intended. I feel like you're objecting to more than that, however, and I'd like to better understand what you're getting at. "Yet, you wrote two articles about him. I don't think you are being entirely honest with yourself. I really hope there's something deeper going on here, otherwise, Stefbot is completely wrong about peaceful parenting."I did a whole lot of research and did my time on Molyneux. I still check in on his videos periodically. I find him moving further and further away from helpful, useful, productive commentary. I find it unfortunate, but I'm done caring about it. He's gonna go his own way, and since he was once an articulate voice for liberty, it disappoints me, but it's not my business. I said my bit, I moved on. I can't see how it would benefit anyone to have me call into his show. "Not quite, his arguments is that peaceful parenting raises empathy in people, among other things. Google "bomb in the brain" series."Which leads them to non-aggression, yes.I talk about empathy and non-aggression constantly in my work, and in the way I discuss most political and social topics. Liberty is the most compassionate philosophy in the world. "This conversation is troubling for me, because I don't think you have empathy, I think it's more likely that you are pretending that you have empathy. Like when you say "I have tremendous empathy" - usually with people with empathy don't need to say such things and do it through example. Because people with empathy don't make jokes about defooing and then blame the audience for not thinking it's funny."I apologized to you for the fact that it came off insensitive. What more do you seek?

+The Avens Show >Do you ever have a sense of humor about something you happen to care a lot about? Do you make parodies on circumcision, rape and murder? Or is child abuse, something you have no experience in, fair game compared to the others?>Not sure why I'd waste my time with Stefbot. I don't need to listen to him rant for an hour about something that has no application to my life.Yet, you wrote two articles about him. I don't think you are being entirely honest with yourself. I really hope there's something deeper going on here, otherwise, Stefbot is completely wrong about peaceful parenting.>His argument, when referring to peaceful parenting, is that peaceful parenting leads to peaceful children and helps disturb a cycle of aggression - yes? He's all "we can save the world just by parenting children right".Not quite, his arguments is that peaceful parenting raises empathy in people, among other things. Google "bomb in the brain" series.This conversation is troubling for me, because I don't think you have empathy, I think it's more likely that you are pretending that you have empathy. Like when you say "I have tremendous empathy" - usually with people with empathy don't need to say such things and do it through example. Because people with empathy don't make jokes about defooing and then blame the audience for not thinking it's funny.

I'm still trying to figure out your issue here.My stance on Molyneux is mixed - I think some of his ideas are good and others bad. I've asserted that numerous times.I used humor you found lacking conscience, but I don't tend to subscribe to political correctness when it comes to humor. I'm sorry you felt it was a subject that should be off-limits. I'm sure you apply the same logic to all understanding of all humor you encounter. Are we both aware of, interested in and advocating the non-aggression principle? I certainly am, though I don't know your stances.Enjoy your Molyneux. I've said my piece on him and moved on to more relevant issues. If a friend of mine needs to leave an abusive situation, I'm there for them, and they know it. I'm glad you got out of problematic situation for yourself, and I'm glad you're speaking well of the methods by which you did. I'm sorry you feel the need to defend it against my tiny, mocking, silly video which was made for friends and others who're inclined to find it funny. I didn't mean to make you feel invalidated for your life experiences.I don't see where the issue is. 

+LoveLifeAndAnarchy "I don't know. If you say you are tremendously empathetic to those who weren't, but then make a parody about defooing, it really doesn't follow."Do you ever have a sense of humor about something you happen to care a lot about? "But, this is pretty amazing. You've just shattered the paradigm for me. You should call in the Stefbot show and explain that even though you were never spanked and had peaceful parents, you've still turned into the person you are. It would be more effective that your blogs against Stefbot, because you are the living proof that he is completely wrong."Not sure why I'd waste my time with Stefbot. I don't need to listen to him rant for an hour about something that has no application to my life.His argument, when referring to peaceful parenting, is that peaceful parenting leads to peaceful children and helps disturb a cycle of aggression - yes? He's all "we can save the world just by parenting children right".Well, I am living proof that peacefully raised children are not inclined towards aggression. My parents wouldn't even tickle me without my consent - I was raised that I own my body before I really groked the concept of private property.So I'm not "proving Stef wrong" in his talks about peaceful parenting. I even say in my articles that he's alright when it comes to that. I don't think we're gonna save the world with my upbringing, but I think the world would be massively benefitted by more children being raised the way I was. What he's wrong about is generally his projections and the fact that he grasps onto people's victimhood and manipulates it. It's unfortunate, because he's a very articulate, intelligent man, and he idealizes peaceful parenting, but people are not broken when they weren't raised that way. And people who've done harm are not beyond help and restoration themselves. By all means, enjoy your Molyneux.

+The Avens Show I don't know. If you say you are tremendously empathetic to those who weren't, but then make a parody about defooing, it really doesn't follow.But, this is pretty amazing. You've just shattered the paradigm for me. You should call in the Stefbot show and explain that even though you were never spanked and had peaceful parents, you've still turned into the person you are. It would be more effective that your blogs against Stefbot, because you are the living proof that he is completely wrong.

"Your articles? I think you mean other peoples articles. Most of your blogs against Stefbot are ahref tags to other "great" and "unbais" sources such as FDRliberated, molyneuxrevealed and trushibes."I link to the sources of the information, but my points are my own. I mostly point out his inconsistencies and projections, which don't require lengthy breakdowns on my own articles, frankly."And what of the situations that do warrant it? Do you think those people would appreciate your digs at defooing and compare them to bunnies/easter/deboo?"So, the entire origin of my decision to do that video was to take Stefbots arguments about women and refer to them as bunnies and see how stupid it sounded. It turned out funny. I think people who were abused and needed to deFOO have bigger things to worry about than me mocking Stefbot."I've actually done some digging on your past writings and your interviews before I made my original comment to get an understanding of where you came from. I was surprised to find out you were brought up in a libertarian environment. I've had always had the impression that people who were brought up by voluntary parents like yourself, would have empathy to the people who did not. Which leads me to a big problem:Either your parents accepted peaceful parenting and produced someone like you, which would be a great argument against the majority of Stefbot's work.Or your parents did not accept peaceful parenting (both physically and emotionally) and were not consistent with the NAP in parenting, in which case, your original video would be a great argument for the majority of Stefbot's work."My parents were very much into peaceful parenting, before it was a "thing". Want to know how I was raised, this entire video rang pretty true to me. https://youtu.be/r-8JDpT1mSMI'm an example of a child who has literally never felt unloved in my entire life, and who has always been introduced to the world in a way that I was allowed to explore and learn at my own desire. Which makes me tremendously empathetic to those who weren't, because my heart aches to provide them with the love I have always had, and I can't understand why their parents didn't. I have helped people remove themselves from abusive situations. My family took in people who needed to get away from shitty homes. It is not easy. I appreciate that fact.But deFOOing is a huge step, and the way Stef talks about it is reckless. 

+The Avens Show >Nor do I demonize the FDR community in it --- my articles which are linked discuss the problems behind Molyneux's messaging and his arguments, which we can discuss if you'd like.Your articles? I think you mean other peoples articles. Most of your blogs against Stefbot are ahref tags to other "great" and "unbais" sources such as FDRliberated, molyneuxrevealed and trushibes.My youtube channel is full of videos going over the arguments that people like yourself use against Stefbot. I've heard them all. And I know it leads nowhere.>I recognize that there are abusive situations and I am sympathetic to them, however, not all situations warrant it and I am bothered significantly by how often Molyneux suggests viewing non-idyllic childhood as both abusive and worth de-FOOing.And what of the situations that do warrant it? Do you think those people would appreciate your digs at defooing and compare them to bunnies/easter/deboo?I've actually done some digging on your past writings and your interviews before I made my original comment to get an understanding of where you came from. I was surprised to find out you were brought up in a libertarian environment. I've had always had the impression that people who were brought up by voluntary parents like yourself, would have empathy to the people who did not. Which leads me to a big problem:Either your parents accepted peaceful parenting and produced someone like you, which would be a great argument against the majority of Stefbot's work.Or your parents did not accept peaceful parenting (both physically and emotionally) and were not consistent with the NAP in parenting, in which case, your original video would be a great argument for the majority of Stefbot's work.I don't think I'll ever find out the truth.

I appreciate your thoughts. If you were offended by it, I apologize, though I stand by my public statements on De-FOOing (which can be viewed in the comments of the original article). I recognize that there are abusive situations and I am sympathetic to them, however, not all situations warrant it and I am bothered significantly by how often Molyneux suggests viewing non-idyllic childhood as both abusive and worth de-FOOing.If you've experienced something to make it worth it, I totally understand, and that's your choice. I think the concept is advocated too much by people who are not intimately involved in people's personal situations to have any idea what they're talking about, and yes, I believe Molyneux projects his experiences onto others in ways that are very worrisome, considering his tendency to give people advice about their very lives.My first video was made on a whim, in relation to my other articles, and this was an easy place to house it. It is not related to the theme of the videos I'll be publishing, but I'm not removing it. Hope you've found happiness, since whatever measures you took to remove yourself from painful situations. :)Best,Avens.

+The Avens Show Oh, yes - the humour. The first video in your channel which was about "debooing", "send me money" and all the other caricatures that anti-stefbot people do was all done for humour. My mistake.Here's the thing. Not everyone was raised by voluntarists parents like yourself. Some of us were raised by abusive assholes, in hellhole communities. Defooing is a hard thing to do - perhaps one of the hardest things to do. And the only places that talk about it seriously, outside of psychological circles, is the FDR community.So some advice to you, if you want to talk about communicating libertarian ideas effectively, it's best not to make your first video comparing the breaking of abusive families, to bunnies. Because you might accidentally turn off people who came into liberty the hard way.Just a thought.

+LoveLifeAndAnarchy My parody video is not there to be communicating liberty ideas to the outside world. It's there to have a sense of humor, within the liberty movement. Nor do I demonize the FDR community in it --- my articles which are linked discuss the problems behind Molyneux's messaging and his arguments, which we can discuss if you'd like.

Hello there! Have you considered - Jacksons Badass Dating Tips? (do a search on google) Ive heard some amazing things about it and my father got a really hot dates with it. It looks like a great way to get women.