All Grain Yeast Starter take #2 - Brew in a Bag method
The French Press coffee pot was kind of a mess but this went much better. - 8 oz of pils malt. - mashed with 32 oz of 163 deg water to 152. - held for 30 min.
+neanderthor66 I weight them out. That is only for illustrative purposes. Say someone weighs out grain at the homebrew store but then comes home. If they wanted to try to do an all grain starter, putting crushed grain in a measuring cup like that would at least get them in the ball park.
Thanks for this good video Don! I use BIAB and could help me with my
starters...but i have a question about the water that you added to mash
out: adding a near boil water with the grains still in the cooler, could
not extract tanins from it? I usually do a "sparge" with a 73°C water to
extract more sugar from the grains, but I avoid reaching 75°C because of
the tanins...
+jaucbn It is not about the temp of the water you are adding. It's about the temp that you raise the grain bed (mash) to. So by adding boiling water I'm trying to raise the temp closer to 168 F. But you don't want to go much over that for concern of the tannins you mention. Make sense? I could have just used more water to begin with and called it good but I decided to try this. Maybe next time I'll just use all 50 oz of water at once.
Could a fellow sterilize a few Mason jars and pull some wort off a batch.
Maybe even just before any finishing hops to keep it pretty clean, then
just let that come to room temperature and pitch away later. Just a
thought.
+Gregory Dickeson Well, it depends on how you want to store it. If you don't do anything, it will start to ferment on its own. I know some people "can" the wort and that will preserve it. I have also heard of freezing it, but I have not tried that. Just use common sense and make sure anything smells ok before you would use it. You're welcome for the vids. :)
Yeah I was thinking about pulling it from the boil kettle, so it's basically ready to use for the next time you need a starter. I should make more starters. Thanks for all your videos, appreciate all your work.
+Gregory Dickeson If you mean, can you take some wort on brew day and set it aside and ferment it with other yeast, well yes you can. I've done that once. I would think you would still want to boil it and then cool it. The problem is, if you are brewing a batch of beer, by then it's too late to make a starter for that batch. But if you were making it for some other reason, yeah it works.
Alternatively, when you're brewing an actual beer, after you finish
sparging, you could sparge again. There should still be some residual
sugars even after sparging. Add maybe a gallon of water to the grain bed,
stir, and draw off the liquid. Boil it. Then use that for a starter.
Cheers!
+Aaron Barker I think for that to work you would have to somehow "can" it, like you suggest. If you simple take non-fermented wort and put it in the fridge, it will spoil (i..e ferment) one way or another in time. But yeah, some people do can wort, and then they can even just leave it on the pantry shelf. There are lots of ways to do this kind of stuff for sure. :) Glad you like the vid. Cheers.
Or, another (similar) alternative is to adjust so that you have an extra liter of wort post-boil that you put into a mason jar and store in your brew fridge. Then, when making a similar beer, you have targeted starters ready to grab. Brewing a Pilsner? Grab the liter of Pilsner wort from the fridge. Bring up to temp, pitch yeast and put on stir plate. Done and done, little to no extra work. (Tho, sterilization of the mason jar would prob be good too, just boil as if canning and seal the lid). Great vid DonO. Always enjoy seeing folks figuring out new ways of doing things.
+Patrick Chavez The loss surprised me in that cooler unless it is just not as well insulated as what I use for a mash tun. I put the water in first, put the lid on and let it sit a while, before adding the grain. So I do pre heat it in that way. Glad you like the vids.
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