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mikee1911 commented on 03 Dec 2010

@swatcapt11 ive trained with cops n i've been told that they hav ONE job during an active shooter situation. that is to hunt down and kill the shooter asap. they're not even sposed to help the victims as that would waste time n allow the shooter to kill more. CAREFULLY weigh ur options in such a situation and accept the fact the odds r against u. cops c u with a gun, theyll probly shoot u. cops r ppl too n hav made mistakes before. that said, if my loved ones r in danger i'll risk gettin shot

JoeDaddy40 commented on 13 Sep 2010

@ilorokamou What makes you think that he wouldn't have been able to get that gun off the street??? at half the price. People like him cowards... Don't want someone who is gonna fight back. He went it there armed to the teeth because he new that there would be no one who could stop him. And once someone showed up who could he did it him self. At one point he actually ducked into a class room full of kids to reload. If one of those students would have been a ccw holder lives might have been save

mike lud commented on 30 Jul 2010

if gun control worked then chicago and new york should be the safest cities in america!!! no once can dispute that the 11 minute response time at virginia tech must have seemed like an eternity to the students.. if u allow students to carry, you give them a fighting chance to survive... (warren vs. DC) stated that the police have no legal duty to protect you as a private citizen !!! before you post here, actually know the facts... people seem to post stuff out of emotion and not out of fact.

nominalvelocity commented on 16 Jul 2010

@ilorokamou The only thing *half-way* resembling an "effective" gun control scheme is complete confiscation--A law mandating government stormtroopers to bust into your home (and EVERY other), ransack the place in an impotent effort to catch llegal items. Even in a magical world where guns just disappeared--that situation would last for about two weeks, as new weapons are carved out of steel. Personally, since nobody else can or will defend me as good as ME, I'll just resolve to defend myself.

aussieconservative commented on 22 Oct 2011

This is an amazing debate. In Australia we have big time gun control laws but we are in a position where there is so few guns (let alone an assault rifles) the likelihood that someone has a gun is very tiny. I would argue that any laws have to be made in a country as it exists, not some distant utopia that doesn't. Therefore if weapons are prevalent I think it is sensible to have the right to one yourself, for protection. There needs to be the right for self defence, to protect ones life.

Kyle Brookmeyer commented on 30 Jun 2010

ICOM, you argue that guns deter crime, and...maybe you're right, but I hesitate to concede the point. I would, however, like to point out two things. Number one, if effective gun control laws were enacted, Cho never would have been able to procure the weapons he used in his massacre. Two, do you really think that the thought of someone else with guns on the campus would have stopped Cho? He took his own life in the end, clearly the threat of death was not a deterrent in this situation.

kazuosrevenge2 commented on 10 Mar 2011

I am 100% pro Second Amendment I do see a major safety issue with allowing guns in dorms. It’s a recipe for disaster when you have drunk teenagers commonly going in and out of other people’s room. The gun owner may be a responsible safe person, but most kids in that environment are not. An outright ban on guns for all students even if they rent an apartment OFF CAMPUS is insane and wrong. Rapists often target college girls for this reason. A “Gun Free Zone” is very attractive.

Ben Lawry commented on 14 Mar 2013

Last I checked, paper & ink, vomit, urine, pens, text books and the buddy system have never been an effective solution to deal with danger. School supplies? That's just silly. Bodily fluids? I recall some nature show talking about prey doing similar things. Is it seriously being suggested that we resort to sea slugs? I would rather not die trying to protect myself with my pen-although the Pilot G2 is quite good as a writing utensil, I wouldn't want to count on it for self defense...

ConcealedCampus commented on 07 Jul 2010

@ilorokamou Remember, gun laws weren't the only ones Cho violated by bringing guns onto campus, much less murdering people. Drugs are completely forbidden in the US, and criminals still get them. In fact, only criminals have them. Cho took his own life only when he realized armed police were finally closing in. The FBI and Secret Service agree, active shooters stop only once they encounter resistence. If you were evaluating a target, would armed citizens on campus change your mind?

ShhDontMove commented on 05 Nov 2012

I can guarantee every last moron on here who think guns shouldn't be allowed for college students that every, single, last, victim. Who was killed in Virginia Tech, if allowed to return to this earth again, would vote for allowing armed students. Imagine if one of them was your kid, would you be that blatantly ignorant to take away their 2nd amendment right? The only people scared of allowing people to carry arms are those who know nothing about guns or who do not value life.

swatcapt11 commented on 03 Dec 2010

@mikee1911 Your are right for the most part about having to leave the victims it is sad but that is what has to be done to save lives. The thing that most people fail to relize is that if a person had a ccw and was able to of carried they should not go looking around the school for the shooter only if they encoutered the shoot. so there would almost no risk of being shoot by the police and there it is quiet easy to see someone shooting everyone and and just someone with a gun

Uncommon Neutrality commented on 04 Jan 2012

"When the police come in, how are they going to determine who's the good guy" ummm, because they only come in after all the victims are dead and the killer committed suicide, because their primary objective is self preservation. If someone else shot the killer before he ran out of ammo and thus out of victims, fewer lives would have been lost. It would be easy to tell because that law abiding person would then inform the police that the threat was neutralized.

LordVigeous666999 commented on 20 Jul 2010

what structure of law would have prevented cho from getting guns, while allowing law abidding citizens to still have them? And the idea of other people having guns is not just a deterrent. Deterrent means you don't have to use them. When Cho opened fire, how many guns would have been firing back? more then none, thats how many And people that carry guns tend to know how to use them cho is the one that, in anger, might pick up a gun, and not know how to use it

Tim Clark commented on 09 Jul 2013

I live in Texas and there was a bill this past session that would've allowed for guns on campuses. It almost passed. I used to be against guns but now I want to get training for conceal carry. People are more likely to die from obesity. Should we ban fatty food from colleges? If I'm conceal carrying, no one knows but me unless I want them to know. Maybe some students are already carrying in order to deter possible criminals. Stop fighting personal rights.

white98cummins commented on 19 Apr 2011

@ilorokamou I conceal carry and Im a student (not at the same time unfortunately) but I can guarantee you that if I had been allowed to have a gun on campus and was present at this event I would have attempted to neutralize him and would have been successful if presented with a good shot. I do not care if he was not deterred by death, wounding or killing him would have stopped him no matter his resolve to continue on.

TheBardicDruid commented on 01 Jul 2012

As soon as I strap on a gun I give up the right to lose my temper. I give up the right to make smart aleck comments to passers by. I give up the right to do anything that may escalate any situation I’m in. Any altercation I’m in is a gun fight because there at least one gun involved, mine. Once you open your mouth to a stranger you lose all control of where that interaction is going to go.

higheddy89 commented on 06 Dec 2011

@ilorokamou One, if someone wants a gun for whatever reason, they will get it regardless of any statutes. Two, yes he took his own life in the end, but all the others that lost their lives didn't get the luxury of that option. The second he slayed a second or third person, without a doubt a concealed carry in the audience would have rid him of his aggression and save the 27 other victims.

Zachary Wheeler commented on 20 Mar 2012

Honestly, all schools should allow open carry. I mean, if a mass-murderer can see people on campus walking around with guns on their hips, he'll be a lot less likely to go on a shooting rampage because he'll know that he'll face opposition. I think the sychopath that shot up VTech would've been greatly discouraged to go on a shooting rampage if he knew that other students had guns.

daPlumber702 commented on 08 Nov 2012

also, the guy arguing your point in the video said it himself. Cho wanted to kill as many people as he could before he got killed/killed himself. Had guns been allowed on campus, and he knew they were around, mentally unstable or not, it probably wouldn't have been his first choice, dying before you get your psycho message out isn't even something a psycho likes the idea of.

imachickenman commented on 14 Jun 2011

Mr. Goddard made intelligent, but irrelevant observations towards the end there. The man was not pushing for the expansion of firearm rights to the mentally ill. He was simply calling for the rights that a mentally sound, trained citizen can obtain outside of a campus to be allowed inside one, where it could save lives in an active shooter situation.

StateExempt commented on 27 Sep 2011

@Paladinbr - I would agree. The biggest advantage I think CCW holders have is that they are generally more familiar with the immediate territory where a shooting may occur. Police would never know as much about a university in a crisis situation as the staff and students that actually go there. The latter should definitely have the right to be armed.

PocketDrummer commented on 17 Jul 2010

6:30 His final word did not address the topic at hand. He attacked the law that allows citizens to purchase guns in the first place, NOT the law preventing licensed citizens from carrying on campus. His stance on positively distinguishing the actual murderous psycho from a defending victim is a sound argument, though.

kazuosrevenge2 commented on 10 Mar 2011

Leandro Avila commented on 04 Nov 2012

Do you shoot someone every time you lose your temper? Having a concealed weapon that remains concealed in an altercation doesn't constitute a gun fight. You control your own actions and a verbal altercation is just that, verbal. Once it becomes physical it's a completely different story.

Appolyon Abbaddon commented on 02 Nov 2012

look for most of history humans have been armed to defend themselves wether it be a sword a club or a dagger at all times what the hell has changed besides how we kill and defend ourselves...not much........and Cho took his life when he was aware that retaliation was on its way

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thejmeister88 commented on 28 Mar 2013

Really shows the true colors of the Brady campaign and anti-gun groups alike. Its not about assault weapons or high capacity magazines. Its about taking handguns and semi-automatics, the most practical firearms for personal protection, from citizens hands and infringing on the 2nd Amendment to the greatest extent possible. You won't find a slave carrying a gun.

PTZOUTZ commented on 15 May 2014

to thejmeister88: It's about taking all firearms away from civilians.. Civilians and guns are two terms that don't go together… As for slaves and guns, you are slaves with guns.. Guns don't change anything, that's why they are selling them to you.. They make quite a big profit from you..

James Eaton commented on 07 Sep 2014

People kill people. If not a firearm these crazies will find another way to wipe people out via bomb, airplane, automobile, tools, etc.

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