bc's first set of the 1980 international championship. My name is Jamie Carbone and I am fortunate enough to be singing tenor with "Our Town" which includes ...
Fortunate you truly are, my tenoric friend.
Tenor on!!!!!
Try to not hurt Scott's feelings. He's a tad sensitive, y'know.
Banging all those old ladies for a living is not something he's overly
proud of.
Give him a smooch from me.
Isn't Larry great?
And Terry changed BBshop forever.
The only pre-Terry true basses were the guy who died in the Easternaires,
the Buffalo Bills original bass, maybe Jay Wright, of Sidewinders and Far
Westerners fame, maybe Mr. Felgen of the Four Renegades. Nowadays you can't
win without a tremendous Basso Profundo. Besides Oxley, the guy from
Nightlife probably gets the nod as the greatest BBS bass ever, with a deep,
deep voice and such a mellow tone. Terry set the standard.
The guy from the old Easternaires was such a voice and had amazing style.
Listen to "Steppin' Out With My Baby", on "Something Slightly Different". A
very poor recording, but what a Bass! And the rest of the four weren't
chopped liver, neither.
Today, though, I was listening to the Confederates' side of Barbershop
Battle, and the song "Summertime" shows off their bass to truly awesome,
terrible effect.
But your pal is definitely in the top few, and he is SO mellow, he makes
the quartet sound good no matter what.
And Mr. Tully is my baritone hero. So smooth, so perfect. Seen and heard,
but not much show, just perfection.
Say "Hi" to Scottso for me, but don't mention the old ladies thing. He's
sorta sensitive about it.
They weren't all that old, either!
Thanks. Jamie. Hard to stop watching this; it's sort of like somehow
getting a tape of Lincoln doing the Gettysburg Address, for those of us who
joined the Society a couple years after the Common won and never got to see
their contest performances. OK, exaggeration for effect, but you get the
idea. And Brent is way right about Rich's musicality. You feel that with
them it is all about the song, all about the music, not about the singers.
MickDargan wrote about not using a pitchpipe. Kent told me that once Rich
took out the pitch pipe, looked at it, and then put it away, and the
presentation judge scored them higher for doing that. Although they never
won an medals for their "stage presents." I came into the society in 1975
in the Northeastern District, where they were from so we got to see them
quite often and became good friends with Rich and Kent.
As Pavorotti was to Opera....so Boston Common were to Barbershop quartet
singing, easily the finest quartet in my lifetime with a blend that was
phenomenal. and unique because they had a certain amount of tremolo in
their voices,..a definite no no in Barbershop, but why because this shows
that it works....you can always recognise Boston Common...not so with most
of the others.
Jamie, thanks for posting as I was in the military to the time and never
thought I would see their 1980 international performance. The BC had the
most unique blend and full sound of any quartet ever. I had the distinct
pleasure to hear them live on many occasions and was blown away each time,
They will never be matched.
I used to sit with the headphones on and listen to my Dad's Boston Common
songs for hours when I was kid. I'm so thankful that he left me the legacy
of Barbershop music. And, the Boston Common was truly one of the best
quartets ever. Thank you so much for sharing the videos!
Thanks, Jamie -- this really needed to be preserved. Hope after you get the
last round posted you'll also have the clip of the announcements of the
medalists to post. This is a great favor you're doing. Bob Sutton
Rich Knapp is perhaps the most underrated lead of all time. What PRESENCE
and MUSICALITY!
Boston Common Quartet 1980 International Championship
bc's second set of the 1980 international championship. My name is Jamie Carbone and I am fortunate enough to be singing tenor with "Our Town" which ...
If you listen to Boston Common on the LP of the Top 20 of 1979, you will
hear that they sang the tag of "Alone Because I Love You" in noticeably
better tune than they did in this video. With serious respect to Grandma's
Boys, Boston Common could have performed wrapped in duct tape and
blindfolds and would STILL have deserved the gold in '79. To me, it's as
bad as a group of judges voting to give the US Women soccer team's world
cup victory to Japan. Boston Common scored so many vocal goals that year
that no amount of 'Football Hero' choreography could have even come close
to matching their superiority. Someday I might calm down about it...
maybe.
+Jeff Gaddy But they did perform wrapped in whatever. I have never seen the tenor look at any audience, and I saw them many times in performance, from Nashua to Orlando.Now, I have no love for visuals quartet wise. I think the guys who sing it best in the bar at midnight should win.But BC never even gave a passing kiss to the judges who were all about appearance, and it made some very mad at them. But I think it was more than that. They loved the ringy 1960s Sidewinders, Four Renegades sound, and they put in a lot of work to get that. Just like the singing from the 60s, they embraced the 60s stage work.It didn't pan out.Now, I agree with them, but I am no OC Cash, and now that the professional barbershoppers have full say in everything, this is no longer an amateur organization. It is now worker bees and drones. I am not a drone. I will not spend ten minutes so that Joe Connolly, et al, can graze on my wallet. I have a job. He should find one, too, just not barbershop.
Boston Common A Capella Barbershop Quartet
HERE IT IS FOLKS! The unveiling of the Holy Grail of Barbershop. This is the first time performance ever of "That Old Quartet of Mine", preceded by "Who Told ...
Yeah.
It's a bitch to win the Gold with a zero stage presence score.
Now we have to look like we're actually giving birth at every high point in
the performance. Thank Acoustix.
If a baby dies in the lyric, I think a human sacrifice is required.
Overwrought is overdone.
Is "effortless" no longer the holy grail of scoring? Have they struck it
from the list of what a judge is supposed to look for?The BC always looked
effortless; the last of a breed. Indeed, they looked like they were having,
God forbid, FUN! Today's quartets look like they're having a frontal
lobotomy, with no anesthesia., or are Olympians picking up a thousand pound
weight. They certainly don't LOOK effortless a la Bing Crosby or Frank
Sinatra. Is that no longer the goal? Or do we need to address each and
every useless fill-in line as though it were the Sermon on the Mount, or
the climactic "Moses on the Mount" and look as though we are passing a turd
of impossible proportions, even when describing a rather pedestrian,
ordinary thing? The very last word I would use to describe their
performance is "natural". I guess they dropped that, too.
These guys sang with great emotion. They just were about singing, not
dancing.
Now, their singing wasn't close to perfect. Their basic errors I could
elucidate for you, ad nauseaum, but it would miss the point entirely. Their
performance was alway satisfying, and they deserve credit for ushering in
that nice, smooth sound, finally divorcing us from the static, chord-based
model which allowed the Four Statesmen and the AutoTowners, two pathetic
Champions if ever there wuzz two, to beat out so many great, entertaining,
merely perfect, quartets. The Boston Common made it once again cool to just
stand and sing, extremely well. For that, they will ever have a place in my
heart.
BUT, the tenor is ALWAYS flat, Terry loses ALL voice quality when he moves
too far from his usual Basso Profundo Range, and overall, their tuning is
nowhere near, say, Second Edition..
But who does not wish to hear them sing?
FRED still sings somewhat OK. The tenor is, as always, flatter than a turd
in the middle of Broadway. The Bass is accurate, but he ain't no Oxley.
Which would you rather send your Mom tickets to?
I lost the battle of the Quartets. I once got a zero score for the very
"Who told you" that they sing here. Every category was a B+ score except
ONE judge gave us a zero for music. Of course, the A&R wasn't with the
little schmuck who gave us a zero, because it was HIS arrangement that we
were singing! Instead, Gene Cokecroft told us how much he loved it, and had
nothing much to say about why he gave us a 90, and his oppo gave us a zero.
That's why we don't do that any more. They only confuse you.
Without it, we would have easily qualified for International.
I wasn't too depressed. I didn't have the dough to go to International that
year, and I met my Wife while I would have been gone.
The Lord works in mysterious ways, indeed.
If someone can teach Ayrabs to sing Barbershop, the violence in the world
would diminish by an order of magnitude. They won't stop simply just
because their wives whine, and besides smoking the Hookah and drinking
string coffee, what do they really spend their time doing? They could
rehearse 24/7. In fifteen years, they will occupy the whole top ten.
Quarteting makes one way too busy to Jihad all over the place! And I don't
care HOW many virgins are on offer, how many times can you do THAT until
sheer boredom sets in?
On the other hand, I have seen perfectly responsible family men attempting
to sing tags they do not have the faintest idea of what notes or even words
are involved, until five AM, until the House Dick mentions that they have
other guests and perhaps they need to wind it up. Who is going to get them
in a bomb suit before they've finally gotten that tag right??
Which can take many years.
I'd rather sing Barbershop. How 'bout you?
Until the House Dick complains.
Every frikken time.
Let me be one of the first to tell this audience that the Boston Common has
been elected to the Barbershop Harmoney Society's Hall of Fame, it would
seem only the 3rd to do so...so well deserved.
The name of the song is "Who Told You," and yes there is a studio version. It can purchased along with many other Boston Common songs on their Collective Works CD.
+Bob Bobson Wow that is a crazy voicing: It's a dominant 7 in second
inversion, so it's a 5-7-1-3 stack (which is closed position, meaning the
notes cannot be stacked more closely together than they are in this
position). The lead and bass cross voices on "by my side" and it ends up
such that the lead (Rich) is on the bottom 5th, the bass (Terry) is on the
7th above him, the baritone (Larry) is on the tonic above that, and the
tenor (Kent) is on the 3rd above that. You rarely see the bass above the
lead, especially so high - the bass is singing an E above middle C!
Hey screw that other guy, I agree that this is seriously one of if not the most interesting voicing from a quartet on YouTube. Thanks for confirming; I could hardly believe what I was hearing!
BOSTON COMMON BACK IN DAD AND MOTHER'S DAY LYRICS
Some folks say that I'm sentimental
That I can't deny
I can't help feeling sentimental (sentimental)
And here's the reason why
I wish they'd write songs again the way they wrote them(the way that they
did)
Back in dad and mother's days (those were the days)
Those melodies, those harmonies
Will always be a precious memory to me
There were songs with a smile
And there were songs with a tear
There were songs of old broadway
I wish they'd write songs again the way they wrote them
Back in Dad and Mother's day
For there was heart of my heart (my heart) I love (I love) you
And there was down in the old neighborhood
And strolling through the park on Sunday afternoon
Or paddling Madeline home
And there were songs with a smile
And there were songs with a tear
There were songs of old broadway
I wish they'd write songs again the way they wrote (the way that they
wrote) them
Back in Dad and Mother's, wonderful days
Take me back, back, back to dear old Dad and Mother's days (those are the
good old, those are the good old days)
On August 31, 1967 Judy Garland gave a concert at The Boston Common before an audience of 108000. Many thanks to Tom G for the upgraded audio, and for ...
It was right after this song Jaycub. A man yelled "Judy tell 'em to stop
with the camera's, and have a bit of respect for a great star!" - to which
Judy said "Yeahhh!" and the audience went wild with applause; but I always
thought that that only applied to the "Paps" who were buzzing around the
stage with the still camera's and their flash bulbs??? (one or two go off
right in the middle of the clip you have there). I didn't think he (the
loud audience member) was talking about the 16mm movie camera's (which
would have been bolted down on tripods and would have been zoomed in on
Judy from different vantage points, (maybe far away? and certainly high up;
above the audience; as they are almost looking down onto the stage). It's
funny to point out how this man is SO LOUD that he can be heard on BOTH
recordings of this concert! LOL! He's so annoying! But luckily he brought
us one of the recordings; well I assume it was him anyway?
Also we have to remember that Sid Luft recorded on 16mm colour film parts
of 'Judy at Home At The Palace', also in 1967. That footage (with this) can
be seen on the documentary "Judy Garland: The concert years" from 1985.
I think the footage to BOTH these concerts must still be somewhere? It
would not have been nitrate film if it was shot in 1967, so no fear of it
decomposing or bursting into flames etc. So it must be somewhere; along
with the colour 16mm footage that was shot at Malmö in March 1969? That
entire concert was filmed, along with sound; and yet to date only one song
"Till The Clouds Roll By" has turned up in full. (Other songs from that
concert in Malmö, such as "Over The Rainbow" and "Get Happy" and "TMTGA"
were dubbed).
Does anyone know WHY Sid Luft was filming these concerts? I mean he must
have gone to a lot of time and expense. WHY? And if he was filming the
picture portion of the concert then it begs the question of does a
professional sound recording of the Boston concert exist? (We did at one
point have a FULL recording of Judy's 1967 Palace Concert (by ABC
Paramount), but it seems to have been wiped, and only the master of the
edited version now exists.
The Malmo concert; interesting subject! Now, didn't Judy have a huge problem with the men filming this (Sid having nothing to do with these last 2 concerts in Denmark & Sweden)? I recall Judy accused them of trying to film her nude. Wasn't the footage to be a documentary? I've only seen fragmented version here on YouTube. I'd love to see it all - I want to go to 4 Cadogan Lane and restore it - just to be where she once was. I have LOVED Judy since I was a kid - when my brother's were listening to Foreigner and Van Halen, I was playing my Judy Garland LPs!Awwwwwwwww I adore the Greatest Entertainer In The World-Judy Garland!
At about 1:43 you can see one of the 16mm cameras with the light attached. The man is holding it over his head as he is shooting. Remember Judy said something about the cameras with the "big bright lights" so I always thought she was talking about these. Flash bulbs going off at a concert in those days was really a common occurrence, so I think it was the constant glare from the lights on the 16mm cameras that was bothering some folks. JMO.I agree with the rest of what you say, though.
you are incredible Jaycub - this was amazing - Ive only seen clips and bits
and pieces of Judy at the Boston Commons- you did a great job and it was a
treat to see just a bit more of Judy - the worlds greatest entertainer !
From what I heard, Sid hired three men with 16mm cameras to film as much of the concert as they could. After this song or maybe the next, somebody in the audience yelled "tell 'em to stop with the cameras!" Judy agreed and asked them to stop, so I'm not sure how much was filmed, but I'd bet it was more than has been previously shared.