Guess what their argument is? "That's not real capitalism!" Essentially Nazi German economics wasn't 100% like their fictitious conception of capitalism, ...
You're spewing nothing but shit from your mouth. Nazi Germany was a
socialist/collectivist nation and nothing can override that. Left-wing
academia over the last six decades created this lie that its capitalist or
right-wing when neither is true. They did this so as to create a scapegoat
that distracts people from the horrible atrocities of marxism in the Soviet
Union, China and North Korea. I mean when someone wears the swastika on
their sleeve or a shirt of Hitler, they're slammed, condemned and shamed
for it. Now if someone was say wearing a Che Guevera T-Shirt, nobody bats
an eye even though he was a fucking bloodthirsty psychopath who murdered
thousands under Fidel Castro. Essentially anyone wearing a Che Guevera
T-Shirt might as well be wearing a Heinrich Himmler or Joseph Goebbels one.
+Freemind LOL. Your best source is a austrian-libertardian market fundamentalist.Yes, There were price controls in the German economy because They should stop hyperinflation... anyone with common sense could have taken that kind of economic policy except of course libertarians and other market fundamentalists.In fact, the economic policy of price control is not socialist at all.Many Keynesian and interventionist are in favor of such economic measures in times of crisis.Oh! wait, I have forgotten that everything the government does is socialism!!, right? #AncapLibertardianLogic
+ZEROX Germany technically had private property, but it was de facto socialist because they had price and wage controls and high taxation. Look George Reisman. #hugefail
+Freemind You're a moron.if Nazi Germany was a socialist, how do you explain the mass privatization in the 30s?//www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdfAncaps and Libertardians are so stupid. Typical of market fundamentalists...
+Tony Montana They think that socialism hasn't been tried right yet, they are extremely slow learners. How many 100s of millions still need to die before they will realize how sick and evil their ideology is?
Of course socialists have to get rid of their competitors, the others on
the left. You have little historical knowledge. Hitlers SS learned how to
torture from Stalinists Russia. Hitler could not have taken over France so
easily if not for the help from french communists. Even the left in the USA
hailed Hitler.
And sadly you also have little to no understanding of economics. If Germany
had private money or a gold based currency, there would not have been any
inflation. Inflation is the result of a government monopoly on fiat money.
But government monopoly money are not a free market artifact, it has
nothing to do with capitalism, it is an indicator of socialism.
+Johny Diala Hitler seemed to be much more of an engels follower as well. Quote from engels In 1891 Engels wrote to August Bebel that he was glad to learn that new Jewish recruits were joining the German Social Democrat Party. But he warned Bebel that socialists would have to keep a watchful eye on these Jewish colleagues because they were cleverer than the average bourgeois socialist and were - owing to centuries of oppression -- in the habit of pushing themselves forward!
+Johny Diala These few examples, and there are more out there, show how American culture even before the Civil War (or the War of Northern Aggression, depending on your location) tried communal living and centrally planned economic models. Despite the good intentions of the people involved, they always fail because of the inherent flaws in Socialism. This is why MARX and ENGELS never showed a blue print. They knew democracy were everyone has a voice fails. Including Hitler and socialists like him. Quote from MARX- "Every provisional political set-up following a revolution requires a dictatorship, and an energetic dictatorship at that."- Karl Marx, Neue Rheinische Zeitung 14. Sep. 1848 .
+Johny Diala Another example - Charles Fourier, a French social theorist, came up with the solution to the problems associated with collectivized living: It should be done on a smaller scale. He calculated that 1,620 was the ideal population and that they should live on 6,000 acres. These were called phalanxes. In the 1840's, a man named Charles Brisbane decided to implement this idea, ultimately establishing 28 of them. All failed within 12 years.[x]
+Johny Diala People keep trying to describe socialism that if REAL socialism was tried it would work. Example- The date is January 1, 1816, and a man named Robert Owen proposed a new type of model society. In his plans, each of these communities of 2,500 individuals would "be self-governing and hold its property in the common."[vii] So popular was Owen that when he reached America from Britain, President John Quincy Adams displayed one of Owen's architectural models for this ideal community. He established his community in Indiana, christening it New Haven in 1825. In New Haven, "not only work, but also recreation and meditation were communal and regimented."[viii] Everything was collectivized, including "cooking, child care, and other domestic work."[ix] Ironically, at least by today's "Liberal" standards, it was women that were relegated to these chores. The community lasted two years. The term "socialism" was actually coined by Owen's followers around the time New Haven failed. Eighteen other communities were established on the Owen collectivized model across the United States. Modern Times, the name of the community established on Long Island, was the last to fail. This was in 1863. eighteen failers tsk tsk.
Actually yes America is getting more fascistic....but we don't have 25,000 concentration camps with thousands of our citizens occupying them. From Levin- there is a big debate among lawyers about takings and outright seizures. But there is also the problem of regulatory takings. There are so many rules, and the Supreme Court has given enormous leeway to the federal bureaucracy, that very rarely do people succeed in court when challenging regulations as unconstitutional takings of property. In essence, the taking must be nearly a 100% seizure for them to win in most cases.
"Private citizens, therefore, may continue to hold titles to property -- so long as the state reserves to itself the unqualified right to regulate the use of their property."This also exists in the United States: eminent domain.
"There are, however, no longer entrepreneurs, but only shop managers … bound to obey unconditionally the orders issued by government"That is how it is in every state. It's known as state capitalism. It works like that in the US also.
+raiderbass Gregor Strasser was a member of the NSDAP with, along with his brother, idiosyncratic beliefs (ie. Strasserism).He was actually killed during the night of long knives because of his leftist views.
We National Socialists are enemies, deadly enemies, of the present capitalist system with its exploitation of the economically weak … and we are resolved under all circumstances to destroy this system. Gregor Strasser, National Socialist theologian.
3rd- There are two patterns for the realization of socialism. The first pattern (we may call it the Lenin or Russian pattern) . . . . the second pattern (we may call it the Hindenburg or German Pattern) nominally and seemingly preserves private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary markets, prices, wages, and interest rates. There are, however, no longer entrepreneurs, but only shop managers … bound to obey unconditionally the orders issued by government. Von Mises in his Human Action (p. 171).
2nd author on national socialism- The connection between socialism and nationalism in Germany was close from the beginning. It is significant that the most important ancestors of National Socialism—Fichte, Rodbertus, and Lassalle—are at the same time acknowledged fathers of socialism. …. From 1914 onward there arose from the ranks of Marxist socialism one teacher after another who led, not the conservatives and reactionaries, but the hard-working laborer and idealist youth into the National Socialist fold. It was only thereafter that the tide of nationalist socialism attained major importance and rapidly grew into the Hitlerian doctrine. F.A. Hayek in his Road to Serfdom (p. 168)
This "private property" represented the right of the individual to manage and to speculate with inherited or acquired property as he pleased, without regard for the general interests... German socialism had to overcome this "private", that is, unrestrained and irresponsible view of property. All property is common property. The owner is bound by the people and the Reich to the responsible management of his goods. His legal position is only justified when he satisfies this responsibility to the community.Contrary to the Marxists, the Nazis did not advocate public ownership of the means of production. They did demand that the government oversee and run the nation's economy. The issue of legal ownership, they explained, is secondary; what counts is the issue of CONTROL. Private citizens, therefore, may continue to hold titles to property -- so long as the state reserves to itself the unqualified right to regulate the use of their property.If "ownership" means the right to determine the use and disposal of material goods, then Nazism endowed the state with every real prerogative of ownership. What the individual retained was merely a formal deed, a content-less deed, which conferred no rights on its holder. Under communism, there is collective ownership of property DEJURE. Under Nazism, there is the same collective ownership DE FACTO. -- THE OMINOUS PARALLELS, by Leonard Peikoff
+Johny Diala "A system in which private enterprise controls the means of production is a capitalist system. Period." That's what I am saying all the time. So if the state controls the means of production, to use your marxist terminology, then it is not private control. Period. Wink."Socialism is a defined as a system in which the people control the means of production" Yes, and how do they do it? By letting some become rich?
+Alexander Biersack You have no idea what capitalism is. Laissez faire capitalism is not the only form of capitalism. A system in which private enterprise controls the means of production is a capitalist system. Period. Therefore, state capitalism is capitalism. And no, I don't think you understand what socialism is either. Socialism is a defined as a system in which the people control the means of production; not Hitler. You people arbitrarily define it as when the state controls the means of production, which is highly inaccurate. It has been historically, ever since the days of Marx, described by virtually all people on the left, as a system in which the workers control their own work and are able to enjoy the fruits of that work without the capitalist exploiting it for profit. Even if I grant you that, the state never controlled the means of production. The means of production were in private hands. The private owners employed workers. The private owners profited. There was government regulation, yes, but private property was left untouched and private owners still profited, two things which are absolutely antithetical to socialist theory.
+Johny Diala Yes, state capitalism, a collectivist system. Like crony capitalism it is not capitalism even though it has the name part "capitalism". It is a form of socialism. What is special about capitalism is that we have voluntary exchanges of private entities and government has nothing to do with the economy, no interventionism, no dirigisme, no subsidies, no bank rescues with the peoples money.When there is central planning you have a form of socialism, even if it is called state capitalism.
+raiderbass Private property was never seized in Nazi Germany(unless you were Jewish). Hitler, during February 1934, immediately after taking power, poured millions of marks into a work creation scheme intended to re-arm the Reichswehr. These jobs were almost completely private. He also promised tax relief for the car industry.It was state capitalism.They were vehemently opposed to Marxism and Social Democracy. In fact, before he came into power, 20 Industrialists signed a petition asking Reich president Hindenburg to make Hitler chancellor. Why would these rich, bourgeoisie want a socialist in power?The "socialism" Goebbels was referring wasn't a traditional, leftist form of socialism aimed at creating a system in which the people own the means of production. No, he was talking about socialism strictly in nationalistic terms. The state never controlled private industry. It was syncretic; rather unique. They viewed the economy as a means to get Germany back on its feet. It was highly nationalistic and racial; politics and economics were inter-blended in Nazi Germany. They were for capitalism unless it impeded their ideological goals. They were not pro-free market. Nor were they socialist. They were willing to help and support private industry, and they were opposed to labor unions, but considering it was a totalitarian state, they still possessed control over the economy. Regardless, what ended up happening was essentially state capitalism. Industry flourished. Volkswagen is one particular company which comes to mind.
+Johny Diala Second point lets look at a champion of the left in the USA Nohm Chomsky he calls himself a socialist anarchist pentagon is the worst thing created by the united states hates the capitalist system and trust funds etc etc you get the picture?? Chomsky’s business works something like this. He gives speeches on college campuses around the country at $12,000 a pop, often dozens of times a year.Can’t go and hear him in person? No problem: you can go online and download clips from earlier speeches—for a fee. You can hear Chomsky talk for one minute about “Property Rights”; it will cost you 79 cents. You can also buy a CD with clips from previous speeches for $12.99. In October 2002, radicals gathered in Philadelphia for a benefit entitled “Noam Chomsky: Media and Democracy.” Sponsored by the Greater Philadelphia Democratic Left, for a fee of $15 you could attend the speech and hear the great man ruminate on the evils of capitalism. For another $35, you could attend a post-talk reception and he would speak directly with you.Chomsky, for all of his moral dudgeon against American corporations, finds that they make a pretty good investment. When he made investment decisions for his retirement plan at MIT, he chose not to go with a money market fund or even a government bond fund. Instead, he threw the money into blue chips and invested in the TIAA-CREF stock fund. A look at the stock fund portfolio quickly reveals that it invests in all sorts of businesses that Chomsky says he finds abhorrent: oil companies, military contractors, pharmaceuticals, you name it. Noam Chomsky has embarrassingly capitalist tastes; among other expensive property he owns a 36,155 square foot home near Cambridge, a 13,503 square foot vacation home, and four boats. And we won’t even mention his extensive car collection! He has a 2 million dollar trust fund I can go on and on BUT by definition he is a true capitalist!! So yes I can make an argument the nohm is a right winger yes? IF you look at all the Marxist leadership of today they are all filthy rich. Marxism itself is a fraud. But no Chomsky is a left winger just like hitler was a left winger.
+Johny Diala Many social democrats and communists joined the national socialists. Here - Why Are We Socialist? by Dr. Joseph Goebbels its several paragraphs Marxists like to rant you know but the last few lines I think youll enjoy! We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism! We are against Marxism, but for true socialism! We are for the first German national state of a socialist nature! We are for the National Socialist German Workers Party! By the way these Nazis were huge fans of Nietzsche! Nietzsche often talked about a new type of man ....supermen! you can see Nazi party make a museum and memorial for him even photos of hitler with Nietzsche statue. Nietzsche was of the left and gay.
You have no historical knowledge whatsoever. Hitler was vehemently opposed to, what he considered, Jewish Bolshevism. The Social Democratic Party of Germany was Hitler's main opposition in the Reichstag. When he got into power, he banned the social democrats. Unions were forced to disband in 1934. His platform was largely based on anti-Marxist anti-semetic far-right nationalism. The Nazi economy was more or less a form of state capitalism. Gregor Strasser, one of the leftists in the NSDAP, was actually killed during the "Night of the Long Knives".I don't believe you understand what capitalism is either. Capitalism is just a political system in which the means of production are privately operated. That's it. Fiat currency makes no difference.
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Inflation is better than deflation. Deflation is where the Economy is
shrinking. In an economic downturn ( a reduction or slowdown of output in 3
consecutive quarters) typical fiscal policies are to reduce the rate of
direct and indirect taxes, and monetary policy is to reduce interest rates
(interest rates control the levels of inflation) so they lower the level of
interest and tax rates so prices of products on the retail and consumer
price index become cheaper, but there is so little money which is normally
locked up in company reserves, merchant banks, shares etc when share prices
have slumped (so people are unwilling to sell their shares until they
increase in price again).. there is not enough capital floating around the
economy and most importantly, a lack of business confidence to invest (game
theory) so prices shrink, people still don't buy, and greater levels of
unemployment result in a depression than hyperinflation which is normally
caused such as a typical example of the hyperinflation of oil in the 1970's
where oil supplies were pipe-lined from Russia and the Ukraine but there
was a war at this time between these two countries so access to these
supplies was more difficult so this resulted in reduced supply. From a
market which is of inelastic demand, the hyperinflation of oil had a domino
effect in all other markets in the UK and US economy which had drastic
effects on decreased levels of employment, increased unemployment and
increased strain on the welfare system.
Deflation is macro-economically more destructive than inflation (such as
the 1930's depression, wall street crash). Do people not know that
hyperinflation increases prices so domestic businesses will become
dissolved which will slump in demand domestic export industries and
dramatically increase foreign import industries resulting in unemployment
and devalue their currency ? Do people not know that using all monetary
reserves or base money to reflate the economy is fucking stupid ?
People should know this shit.
He is a good talker, one girl who at least asks and questions it but then
signs anyway. One guy also questions but signs anyway and the chess players
tend to be very intelligent so they refused at least they have head on
their shoulders
They already do it's called QE and 0% interest rates. It hyper inflates assets which when sold will hyper inflate cash. 0% interest means cash is worthless because you'd rather own assets or borrow money to buy assets than hold cash.
+LaserActiveGuy Petition or not inflation is already happening, just not at 100%. Maybe it'll get there in the future with the way the government runs th'economy. :(