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You can't simply take away the dandy factor, it's like taking the faker factor out of a game.Now in terms of Looper vs Marin, yes Marin is better but you have to remember that Looper was used to playing from behind due to the rapid lane push meta. Faker PawN is mostly by who gets the counter pick at this point, just like pawn got the counter pick at MSI and faker got the counter pick at worlds. You're only taking in account S5, S6 gives adcs a much significant role and they diminish the impact of top laners and in terms of bot lane imp and mata were way more aggressive than bang and wolf

+sebasg80 dandy will never have the same pressure because of the meta shift and bengi loves and are more comfortable on tank junglers than dandy as the latter prefers lee sin and rengar evelyn khazix(those kinds of stuff)skt 1 : ssw 0i still think marin is a better carry top laner and with all the gold focused on to him marin will have more impact than looper(looper is more of a tank top laner and look what happened to koro1)skt 2 : ssw 0faker > pawn that is a fact pawn got his ass carried at worlds by imp and mata(the deadliest combo) while faker carried imact, bengi and piglets heavy asses during season3skt 3 : ssw 0bang and imp... hmmm a really hard chice here.. but i can still give out some pointers on why bang is the better adc in this metaimp snowballs in his lane by being awesome(with mata) and transitions his advantage to mid game teamfights, while bang loves to farm safely like a pussy wussy rendering imp's snowballing potential to oblivion and bang picking up teamfight oriented champs and his better teamfighting knowledge gives him the edge in this adc metaskt 4 : ssw 0wolf = your avarage challenger supportmata > madlifreskt 4 : ssw 1we have our winner

+zionlee1004 Bengi never had the lane pressure dandy had, dandy completely shut down impact and faker in every game at the same time. It's also funny how the roles swapped, in 2014 Faker was the one that was arrogant and now that was PawN lol.But what you can't take out of consideration is Looper's ability to come back even after being starved

+sebasg80 bengi is a team oriented and vision focused jungler while dandy is more of a carry junglerfaker makes stupid things in the mid lane workbang is also the most team oriented uber damaged god kda ad carry and wolf is on par with madlifemarin has the highest gpm in the top lanes4 ssw cant beat that in the new meta especially with a tank top lane loopercarry jungler dandy(carry juglers have fallen off the meta for quite a bit now)pawn with his ego bigger than dlift and thinks he is the best mid laner(oviously not)imp and mata are the only advantages ssw have against skt and the way bang and wolf play the bot lane, i dont think imp will get a lead and snowball the game since skt's bot lane is passive farming while focusing on their solo laners(faker and marin) who is in another league with pawn and looper.

Yeah once I saw that I was like "well RIP one of the main SSW advantages" but we have to see what if DanDy/Mata revolutionize this as they did before, we just have to see

+sebasg80 okseason 6 skt will be better because of the lack of green wards that will prevent dandy and mata from making plays and wierd sightstone builds that might come out from faker that might give skt vision advantage

of course not lol.You would have to bring feral flare, the rapid turret push strats back, the assasin/ utility mid laners back while keeping the juggernaut items, the vision war etc. It would be very difficult to pull this out.And the only reason I think that SSW was just the best i because I have never seen someone styling a powerhouse so badly (SSW vs SSB matchup) we know that SSB were vry good at late game teamfighting but SSW never let that happen to the point that they made them completely tilt. Also they never used their power picks until semi finals and they won a game by even trolling their minds out several times (TSM and DP in group stage I still remember that imp/mata tower dive ). I respect SKT T1 much more than SKT T1K mainly due to how the team plays. But what I can't even see without getting cancer is people saying ''oh OG is better than SSB'' or ''SSB threw the game due to illuminati conspiracies within the organization'' or ''EDG sucked dick horribly with TSM and SHR ' because that is simply a complete bronze/silver argument. Even saying that they threw due to the Galio pick is just stupid.I respect anyone that tells me why SKT is the best by giving great arguments (because they have been the best in some things).

+sebasg80 stats alone is not good enough to decide on which is the better team.. with the season4 roster i can agree with you that ssw is by far better than t1k but both teams have really different playstyle that is why the games finish on different timesfirst ssw plays to win early because when you get full items on everyone around 40 min mark rengar is gonna fall off that is why dandy ganks early and the rest of the team closes the game pre 30 minson the other hand skt's laner wants to farm up to late game and win late game teamfights because thet is where their strength liesand as for who is better, until they face off against each other we cannot just say "ooh ssw is better" or "ohh skt is better" blah blah blah all bull dung

For the second time directing this to you.... I like how SKT plays so if you're using that as an excuse then I just feel sorry for you

Can't argue with a fanboy.

And again if you wanna argue then please give me real arguments because I'm still waiting on them

SKT won worlds and winter OGN undefeated, SSW cant even beat blue before worlds and immediately got disbanded after worlds.Most dominant team SSW? LOL

SSW won an OGN in spring 2013 when they were MVP Ozone... So if you have only played for 1 year or you don't know your facts then please keep your mouth shut.

+sebasg80 After reading all of your comments about SKT and SSW and how you continue to argue that SSW was so far the most dominant team in the league history. In fact, I just wanna let you know Mata actually said even at the season 4 worlds, SKT with Pooh, impact and piglet went half during the screams. Not only that, as if SSW ever win a lck even once. All the points you bring up as SSW's dominant features that cannot be repeated at least in near future are mostly relative and subjective ones. I am not trying to convince you, but I definitely do not agree with you on that. If SSW is to be considered as the most dominant team in the history, they should have, at least, the same amount of achievement SKT made in season 3. According to your logic, KT B, then, can also be the most dominant team in the world. According to you, it seems there's a lot of people saying that SSW is the most dominant team. However, keep in mind that there is, if not more, the same amount of people saying that this year's skt is the most dominant team in the history. Based on how most of the Na, Eu analysts claimed that Na, or Eu teams were expected to do well at this year's worlds, I am not so sure whether you can put so much trust on their opinions as well.

the only Chinese team not doing well is actually EDG though

As I stated I admire what SKT has done and I even consider 2015 SKT to be an amazing team (even more because I do like Marin's playstyle). So if you're using that as an excuse to not have a serious argument using real points then nothing I can do

Franly you can't have a serious conversation when you are talking to a delusional samsung fanboy unfortunately :)

you see that's what I'm telling you... Frankly you can't have a serious conversation if you don't use those things, that is being biased, in a decent debate you at least need to take in consideration the point of view of others.

Bla bla bla rofl

Alright so that's one analyst, great perfect start. You can definitely say SKT is top 2 of the best teams in history (and I want you to know that we will never know for sure which team is the best team in history due to multiple opinions and multiple things). As I've seen so many people say SSW did something that would take a lot to be repeated, as I have seen people say SKT is the best due to their overall dominance through various stages of the seasons. Lets take worlds SKT and worlds SSW... In my opinion SSW is the most dominant due to their run and what they did overall.But if we see regular season SKT vs regular season SSW... SKT is definitely the favorite... From summer to winter OGN and then a complete dominance in 2015 that's pretty sweet) 

Just go watch Thooorin where he explains how SKT is league of legends greatest team and that was even before the world championships. 

No tell me please, because I love having discussions... As I said I think that SKT has some better things than SSW did (rotations, Marin -Looper matchup,etc.) So please if you really wanna prove which one is the best team please give me good/solid arguments and we can have a civilized discussion (i.e don't talk about galio bronze pick)

My argument ends here. You are just a fanboy lmao. No point in arguing who is the better one when clearly there is a better team.

I will cite various analysts (including lolesports analysts) Samsung White, and frankly I haven't seen any stats showing otherwise.So if you are gonna tell me why SKT is better then please give me "the stats"

Okay looks like you're riding the SSW dick right now, let me ask you something. Who is the better team in the history of league?

good to know that you mention league stats because the only two records that SKT surpasses SSW on only three things... Individual KDA ON GROUP STAGE for Bang (71.0), they didn't surpassed bracket stage KDA and least amount of games lost in worlds by 1 game (which btw they lost horribly) and Total gold in a match mainly due to the average of their games being 30-45 minutes (vs the 20-28 minutes of ssw).Good thing that you mention stats buddy

Try convincing yourself, but league stats say otherwise.

I haven't seen anyone saying that... And that final was the proof on why SKT hasn't been so dominant30-45 games vs the less than 28 minute games at the semifinal last year. Also the way KOO styled on SKT on that game three showed as well.Frankly in order for SKT to be the most dominant they needed to style on KOO

+sebasg80 WELL WELL WELL, SKT is now the most dominant team in League of Legends history by FAR.

Damn that's a huge answer... Just woke up after a good night and you hit me with this? Damn dude lolIn my opinion most of them never qualified due to various reasons such as meta changes or simply a different year... In 2014 DanDy used to practice more than 14 hours a day, now in Vici he doesn't even practice 10 lol (read a post somewhere). Also the synergy as a team is quite different. And frankly the hunger of Korea to win again was just huge. And I totally agree on that, I definitely prefer this year's SKT than 2013 SKT because it definitely shows a much coordinated team working SKT. Than the "camp faker and let impact and piglet farm for 30 minutes on jax and vayne"Haven't seen the matches but I know SKT wins and I wanna see how the Smeb vs Marin game is like.It would've been an interesting change... A lot of people were posting that year that Dade could reach the level of Faker.And well it's most likely that Faker will retire after this (he even said it on a ESPN interview). So long for Faker I guess

+sebasg80 I don't have to be a mind reader to able to tell that SSW vs. SSB in the semi finals was a joke. If I were to put myself in their shoes, I probably could care less which team should win, but more like which team will stand a better chance against SHR in finals. I actually don't know much about competitive league myself so I just got a few questions. How come if SSW/SSB were the best, why didn't they make it to this year 2015 Worlds Championship again? By the way, it's really nice to see SKT in Worlds the second time. If they were to win this year Worlds then it would be a crazy first time ever in history of same team winning Worlds twice.Also, I think the last time I checked Korean's competitive league a long time ago, I remember seeing KOO was like 7-0 top tier among all Korean teams so I think it would be a real challenge for SKT in the finals which will be very interesting to spectate.I'm actually a huge Korean fanboy in general, I love all the Korean teams, and I think that they all are the best.I might be a little outdated, but in terms of region, it should be somewhere along this line.Korean > China > NA = EUAt this year's world, it's extremely interesting to see EU's Origen and Fnatic both made it to Semi Finals which somewhat reminds me of how at last year's worlds, NA's  TSM and C9 made it to the quarter's finals.I really feel sorry for SHR because they kept making it to Finals and lost it there, it must be really frustrating for them.By the way, I really really wish that Dade would be the one winning Worlds last year because I think that then the Samsung skin would go to Dade's favorite Yasuo because I main Yasuo and would love to have that skin. lolIt's very interesting to see this year's dark horses, Origen and KOO because both of this team were recently created and didn't exist last year. Xpeke leaving Fnatic to make Origen and Fnatic having a new midlaner is also interesting.Also TSM and C9 are both getting a huge roster change so it would be interesting to see which direction this will go. It's unfortunate for TSM to lose Lustboy because Lustboy is Korean and everyone knows Koreans are the best. Dyrus and Hai are both veterans in their own teams. But who knows, it might be just like how Bjergsen brought the storm into TSM when Reginald left and nobody could predict anything like that.I think it's good to see Marin carrying SKT because it has always felt like Faker has always been the only person carrying the whole time. It just means that everyone in SKT is stepping up their games.Faker has always been known as the best player in the world so it would definitely crazy if SKT were to win Worlds the second time. But it was definitely really sad that SKT didn't even make it to Worlds last year.But yeah, I'm definitely expecting the finals SKT vs. KOO, gonna be the best match ever.

+sebasg80 Once again you're proving you have the attention of a goldfish. I already made it clear it wasn't just the Galio pick. Which was already troll. But also the way  it was played. It was clear they weren't even trying. It was so obciously a throw but you want to believe SSW is legit so you'll even make the most thrash teams look good. Isn't that why you think SHC was the no.1 seed. lol

That's why I gave you examples of champions that you almost always see in soloQ but not in competitive, LCS wannabe kid ?So if they're not played on a world stage it's not worth ? Damn dude I remember the last time I saw singed in competitive and I'm sure than Singed is a pain in the ass for any soloQ game.So if they weren't even trying anymore why did they put that really good comp at game 3? Why did they even play the rest of those games ? I remember them crying so damn dude the stage is real lmao(After that tower dive they did throw the game horribly) Do you have anything else than illuminati conspiracies ? We can even say that Wolf made a deal with EDG so that he could feed them at MSI

+sebasg80Yes That's why we we see so much Galio play. Because he makes sense. Forget bronze, you don't even have the intelligence to install the game. The flash engage isn't worth it and that's no one plays it whatsoever. Especially not on a worlds stage.Furthermore as you've forgotten, I said the real reason it was bs was because of the the way he died to dragon which was such an obvious throw. You could see SSB weren't even trying anymore.

A lot of champions need to flash engage lmao. Ashe is one of the most immobile champions in the game and yet she is played, but if Ashe gets collapsed on probably she'll need to burn flash, same as jinx and so it (if the spell shield was used) There was 1 reason why galio was picked, but out of all 5 champions 1 didn't made sense with galio pick.And thanks for proving me once again you're bronze... I don't see poppy in competitive but I'm sure he destroys every game you're against one, the same as malz, the same as Katerina, the same as master yi, etc. please, besides being bronze don't be one of those lcs wannabe kids that judge people based on what they pick at champ select

+sebasg80 Becasue he has no gap closer. He has flash engage. Dude. Who actually plays him? Do you even watch this game?

Actually galio was a good pick back in 2010 and 2011 lol. You haven't told me why galio sucks lol

+sebasg80 I told you why. Galio has always sucked. And I have discussed the overall strengths. You just keep going back to ad hominem comments. If you're just gonna shut your ears and not listen to a single thing i've said, then I cant help you.

I only use them to show my discomfort with this whole thing, I don't use them to evade comments.Why haven't you shown me the stats you found ? Why haven't we discussed again about the match ups ? Why haven't you told me why galio is a troll pick after the arguments I gave you? Why haven't we discussed about their overall strengths ?

+sebasg80 Yes and you will similarly find people who think pawn>faker so so much for public opinion. And insults? Because you've not resorted to any of it, right? You're delusional beyond belief.

+Nishanth Premraj I'm just stating the truth, a lot of people said that dade could surpass Faker or be at the same level, in fact you can even check reddit and find all those posts. I never said Faker performed poorly, he just gets picked constantly which is the truth due to his natural aggressiveness. And I said that last year lol which is also true since he got solo killed 4 times in a single game... But alright it seems as you like putting things in my mouth that I never wrote, and yet again you're evading facts by insulting

+sebasg80 LOL DAde was a fucking joke at worlds. You just cant get your head out of his ass. No wonder you also think Faker performed poorly. Lemme guess. You also think pawn>faker.

it's an MSI finals so that has some relevance and it is important to teams .Why would they have every reason to conspire and throw? Did you realized that at that moment a lot of people said that Dade could surpass Faker? Tell me which evidence besides speculation without any type of real evidence. I've watched SKT's games.. And frankly I still think that Marin is the reason why they have hard carried those games (like vs EDG twice). And in the finals as an example Faker died several times vs KT and frankly Bang and Wolf were really good that game, especially Wolf with the roams. So again for the 4th consecutive time an you please show me your evidence?

Yes. Let's bring up some random game of no consequence and compare it to a worlds semi finals between two teams that had every reason to conspire and throw. You are a fool of the highest order. And I've been providing evidence this entire time but you've ignored them and just been bringing up your own poor arguments over and over. And you also havent watched ll of SKT's games or you would've noticed Faker was responsible for carrying a good number of games too, not just Marin like one of those dumb western hics who've never watched any of SKT's games and judge SKT based only on their performance in MSI and worlds now.

The same as how Koro died? I don't see a difference. And frankly if that was intentional we can go back when SKT T1S lost a game to Prime Optimus forcing a tiebreaker with T1K, or I'm sure that for you that was pure coincidence and God illuminated Prime optimus that day.That is how you know when your low elo mentality combined with how you think that SKT is the perfect team messes up your judgement. I enjoy watching this 2015 SKT because I see it more team focused, even though Marin has carried most games. So frankly unlike you I like watching the game as it is and not going to Illuminati conspiracies onto who threw the game due to below the table deals. Sorry to break your bubble but so far you haven't proved me on why SKT is better than SSW at all, I've already replied to all your points with arguments and I have agreed on certain things with you (even though you never mentioned all of them). So frankly another reason why SSB ''threw'' the game? Because if you're based off 'bronze mentality'' that Galio top is a way of throwing the game then you pretty much just handed me the ''victory'' so to speak

Except you havent. You've compared it to situations that aren't even the same. He just mindlessly took damage from it until he died. It so fucking obvious to anyone who isn't a mindless fanboy that was intentional. I'm so glad you can take sexual pleasure from such a shitty ass throw.

who said willingly die for dragon? Do you even have evidence for that? Seriously who willingly dies for dragon? It's like saying that Koro suicided against dragon vs AhQ... Again IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.And frankly there is a huge difference between competitive and solo/duoQ, in fact the difference between diamond 1 and challenger people is huge. I haven't seen you reply on all the facts I just gave you 5 comments ago... So please I just replied to your ''galio top'' thing so now please reply to mine

fail flashing is the same as willingly dying to a dragon?  LOl. Keep beliievng in your own fantasies, boyo. Maybe you think pros all play on the same level as your bronze games.

Huni died trying to take a campImpact died trying to take wightFaker has died while having flash and being 2 feet away from the turret.Marin has failed flashed against a wall..So your point is? Every single pro player has made mistakes during their career, and since he died because SSB was not juggling the aggro properly they threw the game?

+sebasg80It's not just the Galio pick. He died while tanking the dragon. Please tell me how pros die while tanking dragon.You are so full of shit from your head being up Samsung's ass.

My god HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ok explan to me why did they threw the game for picking Galio top?Looper picked Akali top and if SSB would've played it right they would've completely shut down Akali. Oh wait I forgot that Akali is completely broken in bronze and akali = win right?Please explain me how picking Galio top is throwing the game

The OG SSB comparison is mute because SSB for all their worth threw their game against SSW. SKT would've had better stats/ended sooner OG picked a troll champ like Quinn or Yorick etc.

My god........Alright let me give you an example (draw you) that one is better for SSW and the other one is better for SKTIn the top lane SKTelecom T1 has a much better matchup than SSW... Marin is a much bigger carry than Looper, mainly due to gold funneling, meta changes (a 2014 top laners were denied a lot) and the only series Looper became a hard carry was vs SSB in game 1, games two and three he transitioned into a much more support related role.. Marin on the other hand has carried most of the games, especially on Renekton vs EDG.In the jungle Samsung White has a much better matchup than SKTelecom... DanDy hailed as the best jungler in history, had the best rengar in history, an amazing jungle presence, farming and counter jungling skill. Rather than Bengi who doesn't gank that often. There you go two examples of matchups. Now you can mention stats of the teams they were facing, such as NA being the third best region in 2014 mainly due to the fact that no EU teams and GPL (now LMS) teams qualified for quarterfinals and NA brought two teams out of the 8. In 2015 LMS was seen as the fourth best region, mainly losing to EU(seen as the second best region in 2015)  and KR (1st). (although that's arguable since FW took games off KOO and AhQ from iG)In the semifinals Samsung White faced the Korean first seed (where Korea was the first region and it was their sister team) whereas SKT faced OG the second seed of Europe (second best region). Two of the matches for SSW ended before 30 minutes whereas SKT's matches didn't ended before 30 minutes. Obviously both ended in a 3-0. Now going onto things like KDA or records, etc. We can write a lot more.So I wanna know what do you think about that? Can you write your arguments like that?

The fact that you're ignoring all the important factors and tunneling only on the aspects where you have any voice is a sad display. I've looked up the stats. They're fairly close. In such a situation you have to look up the other aspects of the game such as history and matchups.

Ok tell me what are the stats, now that we have stated that SSW's stats are slightly ahead can you tell me the numbers? Can you please brief me in the numbers? Of course they do matter, unfortunately you haven't mentioned that.  And please tell me about these, please explain to me 

+sebasg80 I've already told you the stats are very similar with a slight edge over to SSW. But not to the point that they're meaningful. I can't help it if apart from being brain dead in your refusal to see anything but your own point,m, you also lack the ability of basic comprehension.And pick/bans, matchups, playstyles, relative team strengths don't matter? How convenient. Is it because I destroyed you in all of those arguments? Then why were you trying so desperately hard to prove these things all this time. Don't contradict yourself, kiddo.

alright so let me draw this for you because it seems as your level of intelligence doesn't assimilate anything I've written so far and I'm running out of patience. What I want you to write is the followingSKT was better than SSW in vision control because...SKT was better than SSW in teamfighting becauseSKT was better than SSW in GPM becauseSKT was better than SSW in overall kda because...Those are only 4 examples of the dozens you can write on, so please continue. As I said I don't care talking to people that use arguments which are based on champion picks or the result of 1 match or your perception of teams, etc. If you are ever going to mention teams you have to take in account their spot at worlds (since we are speaking about worlds) and their level of play, power rankings, how close games were, the overall lenght of their games, etc. And I repeat, I don't care how you're basing your arguments on one single champion pick because that makes absolutely no sense, you are just showing how much of a bronze you are. And I repeat again, please refer to those 4 examples I just wrote

+sebasg80I've responded to all the arguments in previous replies. How thrashy TSM was and why. How SSB just bumbled around during worlds and then threw their games to SSW and the same with SHC. I can't help it if you ignore them just so you can listen to yourself talk.

Oh and I haven't found your "responses" so can you please specify where are the arguments ?

Well they're not a team anymore... It's like blaming piglet if SKT loses this final or using KaKao as how KT Bullets underperformed in 2014. It doesn't make any sense... They were good as a team, and this is what we're discussing so don't get out of track (again) and yet again you're putting another excuse, now individual play. And if you have checked the stats can you please brief me?

+sebasg80All you're doing is repeating the exact same arguments again. So just look up my responses to those in my previous comments for the answers to those.And I've looked up the stats. While SSW had advantages in areas there were others they lacked behind in such as dragon control etc. The lead is very slight to the point that it doesn't even matter.So the only thing to really base this off of is how they have performed over the course of previous years and lo and behold. Samsung and it's players fall flat on their faces for all but one year. Sounds like a fluke to me.

Which are? Please tell me, I haven't seen them, maybe you are talking about EDG in the finals? or SSB being a joke? hmmm damn dude idk about that since I ALREADY replied to them.... But considering what I've readEDG 2014 underperformed (the same way Alliance did that year) but they were STILL a world class team. SSB a joke? Damn dude a team that was part of two OGN finals and styled on a lot of teams was bad... hmmm. Damn dude so now you're gonna say that Jin Air > SSB? Why is SSB  a joke? If you're complaining about galio top please complain about Akali top in that same series... Or complain about Varus mid when PoE brought it vs Fnatic and it became meta AFTER THAT GAME. Complain about TF jungle in that same scenario, complain about Jayce support from Mata at LPL, complan about Kennen adc from rekkles, complain about Zilean mid from Faker at summer 2014, complain about all those cheese picks, because sometimes some of them don't work but sometimes they do work. So if you're judging a team based off on 1 pick then I'm 100% sure you're one of those bronze players that complain when someone doesn't pick a meta champion and call it ''gg wp'' right as the game start. TSM 2014 belonged to the 8 best teams in the world taking 1 game from both of the world finalists (pretty decent imo), they were even better than Fnatic and Alliance. SHRC took down OMG which was at a really good moment coming out of beating Najin, the team that destroyed 3 korean powerhouses on their way to qualify (KT Arrows, SKT T1K and CJ Blaze)How did SSW had an easy way to the top? The had pretty much the same group stage than SKT this year... a wildcard, a mid-low tier team (H2K - AhQ) and a really good chinese team (both times EDG) so they had a really easy way of getting out... Now what I ask you is, did SSW used twitch/jayce several times? Did looper played Kassadin and mao as much as Marin played renek and darius? DID DANDY PULLED OUT THE RENGAR? Quarter finals against an AhQ who dropped games to C9 and FNC. TSM also dropped some games so they were pretty close... Yet again SSW didn't even took their power picks, they even PICKED SINGED FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. Semifinals, OG better than SSB? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, yeah sure dude nice (who was the person that complained about bias?). And now the finals which is the only match that SKT has a bit harder time than SSW did.If you're judging about Samsung Ozone performance at 2013 then I can say the same about SKT in 2014 when they didn't even qualified... So please stay on track and don't change subjects in order to pull out other arguments.So now... As every single low elo player comparing teams they have beated or they have lost games... Lets talk about the REAL way of comparing teams. Which is with internal strenghts such as vision control, team comps, game times, GPM, KDA both individual and Team KDA, etc. I'm not replying anymore to those '' oh so AhQ 2015 is way better thaan TSM 2014, or OG 2015 is way better than SSB 21014 HURR DURR'' There is no way you can compare those. So please stop with your bronze mentality (max low silver) and please use real reasons 

+sebasg80 And likewise I'm waiting for your counter arguments to my points.

Look at my second reply... Those are my arguments. I'm still waiting for yours

+sebasg80And I've yet to see you bring up valid counter points for any of the arguments I've brought up. All you keep doing is bringing up facts without any context. According to your logic, that means China is now one of the weakest regions in the world only ahead of NA and since the Samsung players were a key component in those teams, it was a failing of those players in general. See? Even by your own logic, Samsung players look like shit. So great job. 

I've only seen you mentioning those matches . Well it kinda makes sense really, but it seems as someone has forgotten that TSM was better than Alliance and Fnatic last year (even though I dislike TSM at all). I got a question, are you one of those guys that spam "this X team is trash" if they underperform in 1 single tournament ? And again if you wanna have a valid argument please present me valid points. I haven't seen you at all writing things about vision control or rotations or team comps etc. And again if you think that OG was better than SSB, then frankly I just lost complete respect to you and I can assure two things... You're probably one of those fanboys that commented countless times KTB > Dade's SSB when all the Winter SKT > Worlds SSW came out or you probably started playing this year.So yeah whenever you have valid points as to why SSW is not better that this second generation of SKT let me know

+sebasg80I was just talking about s4 and s3. Do you just read what you want to? Is that how you think Samsung is better?

Why do you keep talking about S5? Do you not know any other games than S5? Lol

+sebasg80 SKT lost to all those teams? By gosh golly! It's like as if nothing's changed in their lineup between now and then. Oh wait.Want to know whose lineup didn't change? Oh right. Samsung at s3(with the exception of dade) You know. the team that didn't even make it out of groups? LOL I'm sure that's something SKT will never be able to replicate. Truly. Samsung is far better than SKT.AHQ almost got out as the first seed from group B. They were far stronger than shitty TSM from s4 at the very least. and OG is infinitely better than SSB since at least they weren't blatantly throwing games with dumbass picks. And KOO beat FNC, one of the favorites to win worlds. Case closed. Continue pretending SKT isn't the best when they've made it to two finals while samsung's only accomplishment is one finals and not even making it out of groups. LOL

And now you're being biased again when you say about the "overrated as fuck" It's quite funny because I also remember that Huni,Reignover, Piglet,Impact,Mandu, Kakao,Rookie,Save,Seraph,Emperor,Gunza,Maknoon, etc left too...And it's also so funny that SKT not only lost to both Samsung teams but CJ Frost, KT Arrows and Najin White Shield that same year.It's also funny that you discredit professional analysts yet I haven't seen any valid reason as to why SSW is not as good as SKT this year.And Korea had its strongest performance ? SKT didn't even had a series vs a good team besides OG, KOO lost to FW twice, KT almost lost to OG and the list goes on and on... So the same question to that wannabe challenger... Do you want me to give you time until you can find any relevant and valid arguments ? Or will you just keep bitching ?

+sebasg80An individual player getting kicked out makes a hell of a lot of difference when that player was vital to their team. Again. Use your own brain for once which sadly you've been incapable of doing this entire time. And experts are biased as fuck since they've wanted to believe that without the overrated as fuck samsung players, Korea was no longer the strongest region this year and yet Korea has had it's strongest performance at worlds yet. Hmm... I wonder how it happened without SSW and SSB. LOL

Interesting because a few comments ago you actually wrote that... Interesting

+sebasg80 no I never stand for SKT>SSW fanboy. Because I'm not a fanboy of any of those! I'm just here to wake you up that your dreamy SSW is in no way unreachable or the strongest or whatsoever of all time ;) Did you not see that I SAID SKT in S3 is as good as SSW in S4, and SSW in S4 is history now? Did you actually read shit?

You can read it... And whenever you have clear and valid arguments on why SKT is better than SSW then let me know, I don't discuss on the amount of solo kills or how an individual player got kicked out of worlds, because this is supposed to be a TEAM discussion, not an individual discussion. So whenever you have that let me know

+sebasg80 what the actual fuck are you even trying to imply with that article now :)))) I like you, you're hilarious.

//worlds.lolesports.com/en_US/worlds/articles/final-fight-season-4-samsung-whites-imp

+Nishanth Premraj so let's talk about how his invincible team ADC imp got eliminated in group stage TWICE at worlds in S3 and this time. Pawn got revenge solo. Dandy not even a jungler anymore. Mata being bad manner in LPL pro games, playing Jayce support with one hand like those raged retards in soloq. and Looper? who remembers how he's holding up struggling between LSPL and LPL? :)))

So now you're changing the subject... Interesting The article name is... The final fight with Samsung white's imp

+sebasg80 I've found them. They can't confirm. So what's about it? Do you know anything riot can't check out?

+sebasg80 Who gives a fuck what happens in a single game during the regular season. Let's talk about worlds and how SSW had an easy ride to the top and still dropped games.

Go to lol esports articles and you'll find them

+sebasg80 yep for that instance riot had people investigate over their match recordings and came out with no result. What are you trying to point out here? :)

Did they throw ? Because if we're going to that I remember a sister team (SKT S) losing a game to a trash tier team so that T1K could get out of for up stage

+sebasg80 At least Najin didnt throw away the worlds title to SKT the way SSB did in their game vs SSW. Again. Refer to the Galio top example. LOL

+TheGreatRoofini yea I know, I'm just to point out how an analyst said and expectations can be so irrelevant to this Mr. fanboy here.

+sebasg80 Except you havent countered any of my arguments. You're just blindly muttering that TSM was good because they were the no.1 seed. By your logic then EDG should've been in the finals since they were the no.1 seed from China(which you arent even aware of since you thought it SHRC) And yes. SSB was joke. Again. Did you even watch the games or do you have your head up someone else's ass? SSB played fucking Galio top and then died while tanking dragon. That is the ultimate definition of a joke. And yes. So was SHRC. They had only other Chinese teams to play against and so the other half of the bracket turned into a random week of LPL where teams played random shit and won and lost randomly.

LGD 's management fucked that up so badly, and every single one of them underperformed, only imp played somewhat consistent

+다지민아보고싶 haha what do you really think EDG is the same as they were at msi? You do realize they had a huge amount of problems that showed up during the summer and the only people that saw them winning worlds was chinese fanatics. LGD and SKT were the main contenders no matter what and since LGD shit the bed SKT had this tournament in the bag

I'm giving an example on how the meta change had such an impact on the game

+sebasg80 lol, so the other teams had to ban out mord and gp makes their opponents a much better place because they dont shift sides at all right? All teams are fair lol, they have to play at red and blue over games. What makes it so justifiable?

And Korean wannabe challenger... Najin Black Sword was the KR first seed in S3

I'm basing on analysts that actually know what they're talking about, not some low Elo entitled gold players that think they deserve diamond because they got outside of silver

TSM was the NA champion and they took out a game from both the world champion AND the worlds runner up so that's pretty good. So EDG and TSM were a joke and even more important WAS SSB AND SHR A JOKE? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I can say the same thing about OG and AhQ

+sebasg80 If you are stupid enough to ONLY take what the analysts say. SKT this year is in a group with EDG who's defeated them on MSI, and was regarded as the the S tier team to win the final. Whats with the 2-0 huh? Are you that blind to judge things by your eyes to just trust what the analyst said? no offense but TSM is always just decent.

It was a different final dude. 5.16 still didn't came and that completely changed the game. The fact that they had to ban mordekaiser and gp just tells you how much of a shift it was

+sebasg80 wow i see you again SSW fanboy. HUE in Korea samsung team is not rated so historically high as they were first seed in S3 but shamely didnt even make it out of groups stage. They were good, as well as SKT in S3, but not something unreachable. It's just different meta and patches. FACTS, deal with it.

+sebasg80Someone's forgetting that SKT gangbanged KT in the summer finals. And who gives a shit. FNC lost to fucking KOO. You sound like one of those retarded FNC fanboys now.TSM was a decent team based on what? The fact that they lucked out at the NA playoffs because LMQ went to shit with their loss of ownership and coach? Because SK had their jungler banned?No matter how desperate you are, nothing can help you pretend that any of Samsung's competitors were anything but a joke. So again, congrats to you that SSW managed to drop a game to these dumbass teams. XD

SKT didn't played against KT Rolster, they didn't played against FNC, they haven't played against KOO at worlds. TSM was regarded as a decent team in 2014 at quarterfinals. They were seen as the 8th best team in the tournament. Both TSM and C9 were pretty similar in strenght and they both reached quarterfinals. If your SKT fanboyism is not letting you see this then that's your fault. even LOL Esports analysts and even Monte have stated that

+sebasg80 You mean drop a game to shitty teams like TSM?you list out all the qualities of SSW but then you say SKT is good only because of Marin? Shows how poor your understanding is cause if you actually watched the games with AHQ, you would've noticed Faker carrying one of those games and Bang the other.Also, are you for real? What does being the no.1 seed actually matter?(Also, it was EDG who was the no.1 seed from China) TSM was shit last season. They entered the NAplayoffs as the 5th-6th seed and only made it out of worlds groups because SK didn't have their star jungler. Also, SHR wasn't the favourite to perform well by any Chinese analysts. It was EDG that was the Chinese favorite. So congrats. SSW managed to drop games to teams that fumbled their way into the roundof8.

Giving all the credit to SKT with the two LCK victories, the almost perfect season and their individual play, they haven't faced the best teams in worlds. They faced AhQ (where only westdoor is world class). Origen where Soaz/Amazing is nothing compared to Marin/Bengi (Niels can't hyper carry like that) and now the KOO Tigers which have seen great performance.SSW took 3 first seeds. The 1st Chinese seed and the 1st NA seed WITHOUT EVEN SHOWING their power picks and stomping them, some of those games didn't even reached 20 minutes. I've never seen a team humilliate a Korean Powerhouse so much that they looked like an amateur team (two of those games were closed before 25 minutes). And then they took down Royal Club which had taken down OMG , China's favorite and who also took down Najn in a 3-0 victory. SSW has almost all the records, the only 3 records they don't have is the perfect season (mainly due to cockiness, highest individual kda and a double world champuonship). But they have the rest.