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+CptJistuce You might be onto something, have libertarians rename themselves as the Cobra Party, then start advertising using pieces of old GI Joe cartoons. Such a crazy idea, it might work.
+Nathaniel Rincon They did an episode on Cobra fundraising, they threw a telethon (granted not a successful one). I think I actually replied to someone else's comment that indeed, this scheme would have been a lot more successful in the 1980s than presently.I think Extensive Enterprises- Tomax and Xamot's front business- might be involved in multi-level marketing
+CRocketSlim True, digital trade is huge now. but when the cartoon the clip was made it wasn't. As for recruiting, Cobra is pretty much the Empire from Star Wars, mostly clones with hired troops to fill gaps. My question is where they managed to get the funding to keep their gear working, when most of Cobra Commander's plans fail.
+Nathaniel Rincon Except that paper currency is only relevant to the underclasses (given how digital trade is among banks these days, what I was trying to say.. albeit in another post I made WRT this video, apologies)... which I suppose would support Cobra's Viper recruiting efforts
+CRocketSlim Well see when I said that I was calling out Cobra Commander calling the Paper money "worthless green paper" while using a metal coin, which would have just as much actual usefulness. As there isn't enough metal in it to use for any tools.Also if they destroy all forms of currency, they become the best Guarantors. Meaning they don't need to be UN signatories. Your argument kinda got beat by Cobra's actions.
+Nathaniel Rincon Not really, ruthless terrorist organizations make for poor value guarantors. Granted, I just set myself up for the obvious "well do you really think the US is much different than Cobra given that definition you just tossed about", to which I must say that Cobra wasn't a signatory to the UN charter nor does it have the nuclear arsenal that the US does so NEANER NEANER
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The economics of Star Trek
Jake Sisko quotes Picard's description of "the economics of the future" to Nog.
I really like the bit at 0:27 with Jake and Nog: As compared to Captain
Picard's description of the system, which he's totally in favor of, it
shows that human nature hasn't changed, and the average human still wants
material things, like antique baseball cards.
A much more coherent way to set up future economics would be if they'd said
"people don't need money to pay for basic needs (food, shelter, etc.) but
still use it for luxuries and trading", but that sounds less dramatic.
There are countless examples throughout Star Trek of people referencing
money.
There will always be different personal. applications of any social structure. Jake's. inability to explain. the human system to Nag shows that Jake's. a typical civilian: he uses what exists without necessarily fully comprehending it. Prior to close contact. with ardent capitalists like the Ferengi, he never had to. Sisko's collection of baseball cards, his love. of an archaic game & other apparent contradictions. of Picard's simplified explanation merely reflect the ways in which he's chosen to enhance his life. It has nothing to do with collecting expensive (old) artifacts. The ways inwhich humanity improves itself is highly. individual, happening foremost at the personal level, & therefore would contain many apparent glaring contradictions. to an uninitiated outside. observer like ourselves. And, of course, Picard's. description to Lily is necessarily both brief & simplified, because that was hardly the best time & place for a tutorial. Q&A!
"Poverty was eliminated on Earth a long time ago, and a lot of other things
disappeared with it. Hopelessness, despair, cruelty."
--from the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode, Time's Arrow Part II
"How about war, disease, hunger. Pretty much wiped 'em out in less than two
generations. I wouldn't call that small potatoes."
--Chief Engineer Charles "Trip" Tucker, from the Star Trek: Enterprise
pilot episode, Broken Bow
.
No, it wasn't a gadget. It's not about "sharing" either. It's new Star Trek
writers turning a show about free entrepreneurship into an ode for a
top-down feudal autocracy. The 1% socialist elite that rule the Federation
have taken away even the potential for alternate sources of power among the
dependent 99%, in making private enterprise virtually impossible by
reverting to a barter economy. It's also deceitful too, as the Federation
has been involved in a number of wars, have responded to plague outbreaks
in some of the shows, etc. Hopelessness, despair and cruelty are
"eliminated" because the writers say it is so. Federation peasants who
don't agree are sent to penal colonies for "readjustment" (Episode 10:
"Dagger of the Mind").
+Cathy Vickers More likely the Federation reflects the ideologies and mores of the writers, which had turned to a pop version of limousine socialism when "the next generation" was running. It doesn't make any actual sense otherwise.
Trip was talking about revolutionary social accomplishments on Earth, which was only one of the founders of the Federation. If the Federation began as a logical outgrowth of trade- & mutual- defense agreements among 5+ distinct alien planets, including such different worlds (& attendant histories) as Earth, Vulcan & Andoria, then its central philosophy & value systems would be an amalgamation of what's held in common by the founding worlds. Just as the 1st Federation Starfleet probably was a rough-around-the-edges amalgamation of the different. members' interstellar defense & exploration fleets. Any later dictating--which I'll admit there's some evidence for--came about after the Federation had. ossified into an Institution, which has bureaucratic difficulty living up to its own ideals.
Also this "Latinum" bullshit is STUPID as concept.
If the Federation has "replicators" they can build from ATOMS this very
expensive crap to the primitive ferengi.
You can't place VALUE on something that can be created effortlessly.
When you have a replicator you can build ANYTHING with just an input of
enegy - which is fucking abundant also.
+cr4yv3n its not used by the ferderation at all, only by member who are stained on non federation worlds, witch is totaly realist, as us miltiary men do the same thing when there statiend in foreing landsand lest not get into to plot holes in over covnient plot elemenst in star trek are, becuase the fact is, its still a show and needs drama, and problems, even if htey dont make a lick of snese
+qwsecrfvevrfvfr111So, as i said before, the FEDERATION doesn't NEED or USE "Latinum".The only reason they don't manufacture TONS of the stuff to pay those capitalist morons is due to writer handwaving the stuff as 'un-replicable".In reality an atomic assembler ( the technical term for a replicator ) would have NO problem at all creating ANYTHING.Even Latinum.
+cr4yv3n *Face palm* did you even watch DS9? gold pressed latinun is the currency of the FERENGI! you know the chators who are always show to be minacle and untrust worthy except for Nog, when he gives up his fegi ways to join star fleeta society like the ferengi is obsses with profit needs a form of currecy, and yes gold is easy to make, they talk about how gold is useless and worthless in ds9, latinum is a liquad ((much like mercury)) suspsded within the bar in a tiny amount the first time we meet the fergi, tehre refered to as "yanke traders" because thats who there suppsoe to be, Us, americans, greed 20th centery humans, thays why they need money, and captalism, and greed, becauae the fregi are US while the federation is what we could be
+qwsecrfvevrfvfr111 I love this.What exactly is "their needs were met" and then "but not all of them" ?Whatever NEEDS are not met require money.And we already know the federation does NOT use money.So either they don't even have access - AT ALL to things that solve their "needs" or they are taken care of.You can't have both.Latinum is the invention of DS9 morons because god forbid ST kept its socialist moral compass and virtues. It had to be turned into capitalist Murika.Ironically Rodenberry never meant the federation to be compared to Murika. he HATED what capitalism stood for, as proof of his portrayal of the ferengi and the continuous irony thrown at every step at their "culture" of greed and selfishness.From Picard's speech to the snarky remarks of Riker, TNG is the pinnacle of ST - smart, peaceful and diplomat.Not warmongering idiots like DS9 or CowBoy Kirk.Any material that is made from atoms, CAN be made by a replicator - it is even specifically explained in one episode to as such. A virus is cured when one of the crew is teleported and the virus molecules are removed in the process.So yes, the replicator and teleporter can create everything and anything.Also don't get me started on the GOLD PRESSED latinum.Gold is super easy for a molecular assembler to make, if latinum is harder, then gold itself is a piece of cake.This is just story writing b/s to have a "currency" because dumb morons would feel the show is too "socialistic".They need MONEY to feel safe and familiar in the show.
+cr4yv3n in STO all peoples needs where met, no one was hungery, evreone was educated, but tehre where still wants, poeple want to travel across sthe stars, tehy wanted new furniture, they wanted and wanted and wanted, even wehn they had all there needs in TNG, most of there wants can also be met but not all of them
its explained that repilcatos cant replicate evreything, and are really not as common as TNG would lead you to belive and thus people still have to buy goodsthe only reason there so prevalent on star ships is because star fleet has a reiduclous budget, ((much like the curret US miltiary)) and can afford replicators
+Argee11 yeah, i call BULLSHIT on that reasoning.If it's made of ATOMS, it is replicable.Latinum,piece-of-shitium, ANYTHING.Nothing in this universe cannot pe replicated by a replicator - simple as that.That's why they fucking call it replicator.Reality is the ferengi are just as backwards and retarded as Tea baggers/ liberTARDians who fap to the "gold standard" and ron paul.There is no "advanced civilization" they are at the level humanity was in the 17th century with a FANCIER name for "gold".Latinum is "space gold", simple as that.
+FudTron5000yeah, damn those immigrants everything is their fault, not the Legislators... blame it on the ones wanting the American dream coming here taking our jobs then paying our damned taxes with the money they earn with those jobs, fuck them all. no its not their fault. the problem is that he lowered taxes for the top earners instead of increasing it, and then went on to give tax brakes to people who dont relay need tax brakes cause they got millions and should pay their damned taxes like normal people and then some more just for good measure.
@Lala I guess you forgot to read your Bible, Leviticus 20 :13 " If a man
also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood
shall be upon them."
So if God calls homosexuality a "ABOMINATION" to him, the GOD the created
YOU, are you saying GOD is wrong? ALL homosexuals Will burn in hell.
+Ida Jensen Jeebus here we go again, feminists trying to make something about men all about them again. Girlie MEN =/= women. Get that through your self-centered feminist skull. Now I'll bet you're going to say that telling men that being a pussy sissy is okay despite its well known problem-causing effects, because I'm guessing like most feminists you hate men and see masculinity as the root of AAAAALLL the world's problems, akin to the Illuminati, Jews, or aliens. Then once again you'll try to recenter it around misogyny even though girlie men get no benefits from being a woman and the fact that, you know, they're men, and they'd actually greatly benefit both psychologically and physically from manning up. I've noticed a big goal of feminists' so-called benevolence towards men is trying to castrate us and make us into half-men, because you hate us and view what makes us men as the source of all your woes and problems.What you do to gay men in particular is particularly disgusting because you enable and excuse their effeminacy by allowing them to play the misogyny card and making it about you. It horrifies and depresses me.
+Ida Jensen you're being a manly girl... funny, how a lot of people enjoyed that and looked at it as something funny. but you... oh you!... there's nothing wrong with society. the problem is you. ever thought about it that way? how you blame everything on society, when in reality the only common denominator in that equation is you? There is something wrong with you, and that's bad.
+Ida Jensen People need to stop being such oversensitive little vaginas. Get over yourself. What needs to stop is this culture of getting offended by every little fucking thing and expecting others to do something about it
Personally I think you're doing women a disservice when you compare them to girly men. If girly men were ACTUALLY like women then people would have much less of a problem with them.
+kbbbb7Hey I'm a woman and I think men and women should be equal but I also think you can't take things too seriously it was a joke but feminists like her like to complain about silly things like that
+123melatonin Woman has a different opinion to me = call her names including one equating her to having an opinion to her being involved in the genocide of 10 million people
+Ida Jensen Except the fella's that use insults like this towards men likewise put girly women on pedestals (provided they're the sorts that treat their ladies right). Take note of how some disapprove of manly women, conversely. It goes both ways, really. It's certainly reflective of reinforcing gender roles, but not necessarily of an inherent inequality. Difference =/= greater or lesser.That's being entirely fair. Me, personally, I'm an anti-gender person when it comes to first-world lifestyles.)
+Ida Jensen Being a girly woman is good being a girly man is bad.
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