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+Thomas Parsons Bravo, Sir.

Since when was the Manhattan Project a conspiracy?  It was a Military project but it certainly wasn't a conspiracy. 

Well, as a very wise person once said to me... "Just because you have a career, that doesn't mean you can't be looney" The problem is if you look around, rather than depending on the lairs and hoaxters of Youtube for your information, you will see that these "whistle blowers" aren't always what they seem to be.  And you'll find that what they claiming isn't real. Why do we see more contrails these day? Because there's more air traffic than there was 20 years ago.Why do some contrails linger while others don't?  Depends on the amount of moisture in the air at the level the plane is traveling (and BTW not ALL planes travel in the same direction or at the same altitude).  Updrafts and winds aloft can and do move things around up there, hence the starting and stopping. Why the grid patterns?  Again, not all planes travel in the same direction.See here's another problem, not ONE of these people can explain why THEY aren't sick or dying.  Heck most of them can't tell you WHY this mythical spraying is even going on.  Some claim population control... well, as we can see THATS not a big success now is it? Some claim it's mind control. Really?  Some claim global geoengineering, and point to all these papers... but do they tell you these are 'THEORETICAL" PAPERS?  Nope... they'd have you believe this is going on now.  Others will point to patents and say "See there's a patent for it". BUT how many patents do you suppose are out there that have never, ever been put into production?  More than have been. Will the chemcultists tell you that in order for "Them" (whoever that is) to do what they are claiming it would take 2,700 more 747s than have EVER BEEN BUILT?  Nope.  Or will they tell you that in order to be cost effective the plane would have to carry so much stuff it couldn't get off the ground?  Nope.And why is it the symptoms they claim to suffer (IF they suffer any) are not the symptoms for over exposure to the "chemicals" they claim are being sprayed?  They can't because they don't have any symptoms.And why is it that out of the literally hundreds of thousands of people involved in this, pilots, ground crews, chemical manufacturers, truck drivers to haul the stuff, dot who oversees the truck drivers... not one has gotten sick?Why is it that they don't get one of their whistle blower pilots to take them up with some of the whistle blower scientists and get samples of the stuff they claim is coming out of these jets?  WHY?  Because they would have proof that they are wrong and lying about it. Believe what you want, I'm not going to try and change your belief system, but please don't put your beliefs in this myth out there as fact.  Unless you have something tangible to show the world, all you're doing is parroting the nutters out there. 

+James HodgskissObviously, you can only blow the whistle on something that exists. So either these people are throwing away their careers - for no good reason; or, they're blowing the whistle on a real world practice - for a very good reason.

+James HodgskissI find that kind of hard to believe.  You really can't "blow the whistle" on something that doesn't exist. 

You'll see testimony from three whistleblowers on the cpuk.org homepage. And don't forget the Manhatten Project - 100,000 people were part of that proven conspiracy.

+Stop HoaxingWant Proof of them screaming we're being poisoned?  Try this... Note the word "POISONED" in the titlehttps://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=743853178996927

+Stop HoaxingBut you see... if you READ that paper/look into the facts... you will see that this is NOT going on at the moment.  This is something that has been proposed to STUDY. Actually you are wrong about the info put out.  It would, according to the information out there  take many more 747s than have been made to do what is being claimed.  Remember, these people are claiming that planes are "blocking out the sky all over the world".  They don't seem to care that in the winter it clouds up and rains.  But... whatever.You can believe what you will.  It's not bs.  There are NO geo engineering projects on going.  And if you think about it, one of the BIG problems with trying to "block" the sun light is that it will have some pretty bad adverse effects on the earth.   A quick look at Venus is one scenario. How do you explain the fact that the claims have been made that planes... obviously flown by pilots who have family, are spraying people on the ground?  This is one of the claims, along with the fact that the chemmies scream at the top of their lungs "we're being poisoned" (although most can't spell poisoned).  These are THEIR claims.  Not mine. As for NASA/JPL why is it they are always blamed for this?  To hear the chemmies tell it NASA has nothing to do with space exploration, they're all about poisoning all of us.  They can't even tell us WHY.  One group claims to block sunlight (for what purpose?) another that they're using it for mind control, yet another that they're trying to depopulate the world (boy are they failing epically there).  So, what IS the purpose?  

+TheTruthinAstronomy  I truly believe the sulfate aerosol program is in effect continuously over my head.  It doesn't cost me any money to look up and observe the sky.  If you believe NASA, then all you have to do is listen to the 2/14/13 NASA JPL live presentation "Geoengineering and Climate Change" where they admit the existing technology of airplanes spraying sulfate aerosols to increase cloud albedo could be effectuated by a small airline.  If you don't believe that it is already in effect, fine.  But, you and your buddy Thomas Parsons with all you bullshit about "millions of workers knowingly spraying their families with poisons" and "there aren't enough planes built in the history of the world to carry this out" and "anybody who knows anything about planes would know that the plane would tip over if it was carrying so many chemicals" -  all that is hyperbole, inconsistent with the small amount of information that has been revealed about the program.

+Stop HoaxingActually I'm repeating what I have been told. I have been told over and over again that "these are toxic chemicals being sprayed."  "Look around, you'll see it."  However, Please don't label ME as spreading disinformation.  I'm not the one standing in MY driveway spraying vinegar into the skies to make the clouds go away.And for the record.  A) I do NOT believe in Chemtrails.  My questions are directed to the nutjobs who do, trying to get a straight answer out of them.  B)  These people have absolutely no evidence, and the only reason I bother at all is because there are innocent people out there being hurt/duped and taken for their hard earned money because of these chemcultists and their followers. 

+TheTruthinAstronomy "Why would pilots spray their families with toxic chemicals?"  They wouldn't.  Why do you presume the chemicals are toxic?  They're supposed to be designed to increase cloud albedo to combat global warming - not to kill people.  You're spreading disinformation in an attempt to discredit chemtrail observers.

"Why would pilots spray their families with toxic chemicals?" They wouldn't.  How do you know the chemtrails are toxic?  They're supposed to be designed to increase cloud albedo to combat global warming - it has nothing to do with killing people.  You're the one spreading disinformation to discredit chemtrail observers.

You must be a Liberal Thomas Parsons. 

+Stop HoaxingCan be...Possibly, May... all words that the chemcultists leave OUT of their information.  Doesn't anyone notice that they cherry pick their information? 

Michael Davis... you said "Contrails only last a few seconds."  That is simply Not true.  Do you have any kind of samples that have been tested to show that they are NOT just contrails? 

What's your point? NASA says the aerosol program can be implemented by a small airline.

Thomas Parsons, you are not very observant if you can't tell the difference in these Chemtrails vs. Contrails. Contrails only last a few seconds. If you would get your head out of the sand like an Ostrich then you would see that the Contrails are visible for over two hours and the texture is different. It's very easy to see if you use common sense. I can't believe you fly in an Ultralite and don't know the difference. 

don't bet the farm on that Parry.  Nibiru failed to show up in 1997, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2012 and they are STILL going on about it.  As long as there is a dollar to be made from this fear porn, someone is going to take advantage of that.

The "chemcultists" as you call them likely would vanish if there weren't a small army of academics preaching the "if things get bad enough we might have to use it" 'gospel' of geoengineering.  Once the bombastic brainiacs from Harvard, Stanford, Tyndall et.al shut the "F" up then the "chemcultists" will too.  Work on those guys a bit eh?  Ow about it mates?

Thomas, I Know, I know... I've been called every name in the book.  I've dealt with the "I don't have to prove anything to you" types, and the "Do your own homework" types.  I've even been threatened with physical harm... all for asking for some kind of evidence to back up their claims.  I hope that they never have to take their claims to a real live court, because without evidence, they won't even make it to trial. It worries me that there are so many people so very willing to be taken advantage of out there.  It REALLY worries me that they believe so deeply in this that they will look you in the eye and call you a liar (or worse) when you present them with evidence, solid scientific evidence, that proves their beliefs wrong. Apparently facts mean nothing.  I'm still wondering why pilots would spray their own families... knowing that, according to the chemcultists anyway, they are spraying chemicals that will kill their families.  Of course, you and I both know it's utter drivel, that if, as the chemcultists claim, then "they" (whoever they is) are doing one hell of a lousy job, because the population keeps growing.  I also find it interesting that the chemcultists have all this information, but no information on the motives behind the spraying.  They say, "population control" but they can't tell you WHY.  LOL Personally I don't think the chemcultists have thought this threw very well. 

+TheTruthinAstronomy Great statement! But chemcultists can not even tell what a weight and balance test tank is or looks like so they will never understand the capabilities of aircraft. Like I said the chemcult does not understand aviation and they think that anyone who does understand say weather or aviation is in on the conspiracy. So in their world a pilot is ether paid more to spray or threatened with job loss or his safety if he will not. In their world there are fleets of tankers at secret airfields that some how the ATC and other pilots do not seem to see. These tankers just fly willy nilly uncontrolled in the middle of some of the highest traffic areas in the world and no one notices except  the chemcultisit because they are "awake". The fantasy is as varied as there are numbers of people in the chemcult. You watch if we have this conversation long enough posting real facts soon the name calling will start. They just have no other place to go. 

Great statement! But chemcultists can not even tell what a weight and balance tank is or looks like so they will never understand the capabilities of aircraft. Like I said the chemcult does not understand aviation and they think that anyone who does understand say weather or flies is in on the conspiracy. So in their world a pilot is ether paid more to spray or threatened with job loss of his safety if he will not. The fantasy is as varied as there are numbers of people in the chemcult. You watch if we have this conversation long enough posting real facts soon the name calling will start. They just have no other place to go. 

+Parry DuBoisYou DO realize that in order for them to spray, as you put it "24/7"  and "Block out the sun" it would take 2,700 times as many 747s as have EVER been built to accomplish this right?  Or that in order for them to be able to do this each plane would have to carry so much "Spray" that it wouldn't be able to get off the ground due to the weight right? Other than that, please do tell me WHY anyone would want to do this, and WHY all these pilots are willingly spraying their own friends and families?

Perry, The argument is not whether contrails are a form of pollution. The claim is that there is a 24/7 world wide spray operation going on. There is no evidence whatsoever to support this. These people see regular, normal schedule fights. As soon as they start in on the secret fleet of aircraft you know they do not have a clue. In fact there is overwhelming evidence that shows not only that a 24/7 world wide spray operation but that it would be impossible without the participation of millions of aerospace workers of who I am one. Not to mention that every piece of so called chemtrail evidence is fabricated or embellished by the chemult. For instance the constant flow of chemtanker pictures like the water ballast tanks one sees all the time or the "Pilot forgot to turn off the chemspray"...Give me a break really? Those are lies and they must be on purpose because the truth about the pictures are well understood in aviation circles. I agree fully that contrails are a form of pollution but people like this woman have no idea of what they speak. 

Thomas Parsons.  I'm sure that all those people that you mention are perfectly fine with the fact that persistent contrails are blocking the sun.   Each and every one of them is satisfied that when these jets fly all over the globe leaving these persistent contrails that all is well with the world.    Ok.  Good.   Now, lets think about just that one obvious observation.  Persistent contrails.    Just that one thing.  OK?     Although a bit faint the fact is that this capture and condensation process (cirrus cloud formation) is not natural.  In other words, if there were no jets to "create" these persistent contrails then these cirrus would not form.   Agreed?    So.  again.  THAT one fact remains.    Persistent contrails are obviously disrupting that natural course of events i.e. cloud formation.  right?   That, in turn "disrupts" climate, or in other terms causes "climate change".   Some may say that it's inconsequential.  But, it happens.  It's obvious.    It does take a bit of time to actually watch the phenomenon occur.  But it does occur.  And it is affecting the climate.  That FACT is undeniable.

Yeah Yeah, I've seen the article before.  So, besides getting off on calling people you have no clue about names, what exactly is your point?You see here's the problem... while this guy keeps referring to this "report"... there's no LINK to this report... so, how do we even know it exists? 

Wake up idiot. Newly released classified documents prove this: //www.theguardian.com/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

They do tend to jump to pretty wild conclusions don't they? 

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