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Marriage: The Union of a Man and a Woman Only: The Case Against Same-Sex "Marriage"
FURTHERMORE, ADVOCATES FOR "MARRIAGE EQUALITY" ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE A SUFFICIENT ANSWER AS TO WHY THE STATE SHOULD DENY ...
"Proven by what?" Proven by the fact that BOTH men and women are
responsible for any children resulting from their sexual relationship. The
fact that by nature, same-sex unions are deficient in this area. "gay
couples have the same capability to form a legally equivalent family unit
as male/female couples." Just like in the video, responsible parenting can
easily apply to rooming friends, dorm partners, elderly siblings, three
religious monks, orphanages, or any other non-romantic relationships.
As explained in the video, there are plenty of cases involving infertile
couples who knew conception between them is highly unlikely yet were
surprised to find they were expecting a child. The sex of infertile couples
is still naturally oriented to procreation. Also, adoptive parents can care
for their children like biological parents, but, the care and nurture of
children belong first to the biological parents. The social role of
marriage is to reduce absentee parents and illegitimate children.
Deny it all you want, but the sexual relationship of infertile opposite-sex
couples is naturally oriented to conceiving children in a way gay sex will
never be. Also, as it's explained in the video, responsible parenting
cannot explain why adults must commit to each other a lifetime of
exclusivity and permanence. In fact, what if the adoptive parents were
bachelor brothers raising their incarcerated sister's children? Why should
the state deny this non-sexual adult alliance legal recognition?
"The sex of infertile couples is still naturally oriented to procreation."
Sure, if you're having sex to procreate. As surprising as it may seem, some
people have sex simply because it feels good, or to express themselves
romantically. Crazy concepts, I know. Take your time. The legitimacy of
parental care is never affected by biological affiliation. Adoptive parents
can raise children just as well, if not better than, many parents. Stop
trying to disguise your bigotry. You're fooling no one.
You contest that same-sex marriage would somehow destroy social order, yet
you ignore the fact that these people - the ones whose marriages you are
trying to denounce - feel the same type of love for their partners as
heterosexual couples do for theirs. Love is the only essential component
for marriage, and because of this, it will be legalized. Conservatives
(like yourself) might claim it to have chaotic consequences, but in a
decade or so, you'll fill the same niche as modern-day racists.
Nobody's doubting the love of gay partners or any other sexual union, but
the government doesn't care about romantic lives between consenting adults.
The government cares about the sexual relationship of a man and a woman
because the inherent responsibilities of biological parents (should
children come into being) endure longer than just one night. Revising
marriage law to include sexual unions which are not naturally oriented to
procreation will make this harder to understand.
And the entire marriage "equality" claim is a misnomer since not every
relationship (including non-sexual unions) will be legally recognized. You
can't have love without cooperation. If one of the brothers fell ill the
other could easily provide care. So again, why should the government deny
their non-sexual relationship legal recognition? And if any adult alliance
(romantic and non-romantic) can be considered a marriage, then why have a
marriage law in the first place?
" and heterosexuals destroyed the sanctity of marriage with a 50+% divorce"
Like I've made clear in the video, the promotion of certain social and
legal developments (The Sexual Revolution, Radical Feminism, No-Fault
Divorce, etc.) have denigrated men and women's view on marriage. By
revising marriage law to include relationships NOT naturally oriented to
procreation, the state further obscures marriage's social function which is
to keep biological families intact.
"Today adoption is recognized as the equivalent of procreation" No, it's
NOT. And if that's the modern understanding then it is seriously
misleading, because children are a mixture of the bodies of men and women.
Biological parenthood naturally occurs between two opposite-sex couples
ONLY. By nature two people of the same-sex CANNOT form a single
reproductive principle anymore than a single act can unite three, four, or
more persons in a polygamous relationship.
I've searched the web sires of several states.....and can't seem to find
any state marital purposes or mission statements anywhere? Why would
"natural" ever be an excuse to limit marriage....when even the Village
Idiot knows that the ability to defy nature is what defines humanity. I'm
seeing a bunch of silly opinion and a complete lack of logic. The Federal
Government separated marriage from procreation 70 yrs ago with the Single
Head of Household IRS status.
You're implying that marriages in which one (or both) partners are
infertile are not valid and should not be allowed, while simultaneously
saying that all current marriages are of the type that you wish them to be
(procreative). You're also saying that biological parents have greater
responsibilities, and are thus more prone to stay united. What, then, do
you think of adoption? Do you think those parents are less responsible?
Your argument isn't even founded.
The state should recognize marriage as the union of a man and a woman only
to promote an objective view of marriage (to hold men and women accountable
for the procreative abilities and reduce the likelihood of absentee parents
and illegitimate children) rather than a subjective view (a union for adult
sexual play. In this understanding, adults are less likely to form and
sustain a marriage even after children have resulted from their sexual
relationship. )
"Men and women are compelled to care for each other because of..." Proven
by what? Have you met all married men and women? Have they elected you as
their spokes person? A claim of opinion....not fact. "can provide NO reason
" I just gave a valid reason......gay couples have the same capability to
form a legally equivalent family unit as male/female couples. I do
recognize the old principle from centuries past you're
referencing......that principle is dead.
"the US government federalized marriage and it became a secular union"
However that may be, this "federalized marriage" can give NO principled
reason why marriage should be (1) a sexual partnership (2) marked by
exclusivity and permanence (3) or give sound reasons why marriage should be
legally regulated in the first place (considering the fact that we don't
recognize or closely regulate most other forms of emotional unions like
ordinary friendships).
"no procreation is required in marriage anyway." As stated in the video,
the sexual union of a man and a woman is inherently linked to
procreation...even during periods of INFERTILITY. "the ability to defy
nature" NO matter how you slice it, children have NEVER resulted from the
sexual union of same-sex partners. Even if a woman were to sleep with
multiple men, when a child results, only ONE of those men is the biological
father of that child.
"Do you mean no principled reason you agree with?" No, it means exactly
what I mean: that marriage isn't without a ground or reason why it is. Men
and women are compelled to care for each other because of the likelihood
for conceiving children. Same-sex relationships (like bestiality,
necrophilia, etc.) is a societal dead-end and can provide NO reason that
the state should regulate such relationships through the social institution
of marriage.
As stated in the video, the sexual union of infertile couples are also
naturally oriented to procreation...which explains why many of them usually
end up conceiving children. The care and nurture of children belong first
to the biological parents. Revising marriage law to accommodate same-sex
unions will obscure marriage's social function which is to reduce the
likelihood of absentee parents and illegitimate children (by one or more
partners.)
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