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16 The Journalist Gary Taubes 16: A Case Against Fiber (Barely Strung Together)
Denis Burkitt believed that many common diseases in industrialized societies are the result of low-fiber diets. Gary Taubes disa-grees. He calls the mainstream ...
Why are you talking about supplements? Because you are clueless and you
didn't watch the video. Gut. 1986 February; 27(2): 164–169. Bowel function
measurements of individuals with different eating patterns. Am J Clin Nutr.
1978 Jul;31(7):1149-53. Effect of fiber from fruits and vegetables on
metabolic responses of human subjects I. Bowel transit time, number of
defecations, fecal weight, urinary excretions of energy and nitrogen and
apparent digestibilities of energy, nitrogen, and fat.
Come on, man. You're putting up all these comments when you clearly haven't
watched the video. It's just rude. Don't comment here if you won't engage
the material. I'll block you if you keep this up. Do a little research.
Must I do this for you? Fat and dietary fiber intake and colon cancer
mortality: a chronological comparison between Japan and the United States.
Changes in dietary fiber intake among Japanese in the 20th century: a
relationship to the prevalence of diverticular disease.
That's a pretty strange spin to put on the life of a very influential
doctor who served the poor of Africa, prevented countless childhood cancers
there, taught surgery, and provided prosthetics to the needy. Why would you
say he had a "fetish"? You have some personal anecdotes to this effect? His
ideas about fiber were much needed then and he influenced many doctors. The
stool carries a lot of information even if you think it's gross. Crackpots
don't usually receive Lasker awards.
This study calls into question the theories of Dennis Burkitt, but not in a
way that's helpful for Gary Taubes. PMID: 17182822 Native Africans still
have lower rates of colon cancer that African Americans, despite Native
Africans moving to a low fiber diet. The culprit explaining the higher
rates of colon cancer in African Americans? "higher dietary intakes of
animal products and higher colonic populations of potentially toxic
hydrogen and secondary bile-salt-producing bacteria"
Did you not look at what I found for you before you asked me to comment
again? I thought that was a sufficient answer. I didn't say they looked at
supplements. It's like the 2010 saturated fat meta-analysis I've talked
about in two videos. It is too limiting to only consider population studies
that look at risk ratios. One must understand the nature of the diet and
the nature of the fiber. Read about Burkitt and his hypothesis. It was
based on rural Africans and their diets.
The problem is it's an epidemiological study that's observational, and only
proves correlation, not causation, with a disambiguation of the Taubes'
research.(This is Paleo-troll talk that means you've presented and proven
your case, but if I come back at you with what sounds like seriously
scientific terms, then we can argue on forever and hopefully, people will
miss the fact that eating meat is clearly bad for you.) Paleo folks just
don't WANT to hear the truth.
While I agree that fiber is very important, I think that Denis Burkitt was
a crackpot who's research was as unrigorous as that of Weston Price. Both
men found apparently health populations and, largely based on ideas they
had already formulated, attributed their health to just one thing: fiber
and fat soluble vitamins respectively. Burkitt also had a major
scatological fetish, and would ask men if they knew the size of their
wife's stools and other gross stuff.
Fallon and Enig say: 'Insoluble fiber can cause pathogenic changes in the
intestinal tract unless properly soaked in an acid medium.9' The study
which they selected has absolutely nothing to do with "proper soaking." The
researchers fed rats 4 different types of fiber and observed the effects on
intestinal microvilli. The WAPF has a knack for colorfully interpreting
studies I must say. Thanks to the commenter "Jaclyn" for pointing this out.
As llwayneio said, this really has no bearing in their recommendations. My
own view is that their assessment of this issue is probably flawed in the
way that most studies of fiber are flawed. Burkitt didn't say that fiber
was protective regardless of its nature and regardless of the nature of the
rest of the diet. Look at these, for example: pubmed/23719549
pubmed/22136517 pubmed/19741203
According to you? Give me a break. Diet and other risk factors for
fissure-in-ano Dr. S. L. Jensen M.D., Ph.D. "Significantly decreased risks
were associated with frequent consumption of raw fruits, vegetables, and
whole-grain bread, and significantly increased risks were associated with
frequent consumption of white bread, sauces thickened with roux, and bacon
or sausages."
but why would you want to write such a reply? did i state that fiber
consumption is bad or not good? why would you want to write such an elitist
comment? i do not need to start eating fruit since i'm practically almost a
fruitarian for the past half year or so and vegetarian (what people would
call "vegan" i just do not like that word) for a lot longer than that
Look up the free publication from the National Academies Press for the full
story. Dietary Reference Intakes for Energy, Carbohydrate, Fiber, Fat,
Fatty Acids, Cholesterol, Protein, and Amino Acids (Macronutrients)
"Functional Fiber consists of isolated, nondigestible carbohydrates that
have beneficial physiological effects in humans."
nope... very time consuming. since you've already taken the time to educate
yourself properly in this subject i thought it would be easier for you to
give a short explanation. and i didn't ask about supplements because you
said so... i just guessed that could be it since i remember you talked
about it one (or more) of your videos.
BMJ. 2011 Nov 10;343:d6617. doi: 10.1136/bmj.d6617. Dietary fibre, whole
grains, and risk of colorectal cancer: systematic review and dose-response
meta-analysis of prospective studies. A high intake of dietary fibre, in
particular cereal fibre and whole grains, was associated with a reduced
risk of colorectal cancer.
Robert Lustig always says the sugar is the "bad" part of the fruit, and the
fiber is the "good" part of the fruit? If that's truly the case, then why
eat fruit at all? Why not just take a fiber supplement? I think many of the
low carbers are guilty of reductionist thinking.
thanks! will check the research in your comment. Why do you think their
assessment is flawed? because of a research using say supplements? if so
then it is still very interesting why their assessment regarding other
ailments and fiber have not been revised.
If you're asking this, I don't think you're understanding my videos. I say
many times that the physical form of the fiber is key. Did you not watch
Evolved Fuel System? Also, different plant foods have different properties
and assets.
Gary begins his chapter on fiber with an ironic quote: "The thing is, it's
very dangerous to have a fixed idea. A person with a fixed idea will always
find some way of convincing himself in the end that he is right."
This is interesting since as far as i know fiber causes your sh!t to look
like a puddle since it is not as firm as sh!t with no fiber. but hey! you
said it then it must be true!
Gary claims that we should model our diets around hunter-gatherers. Don't
you have a video talking about the extreme fiber intake of several HG
groups (>100 g per day)?
That is very interesting! I have lived many years in europe (norway) and do
not recollect such a custom amongst europeans :| But if you say so then it
must be true!
i dont know... i tend to take HSPH's recommendations pretty seriously so it
really does seem there is a weak link between colorectal cancer and fiber
consumption.
Glad to see you put out more brilliant videos. last week u had replied back
to me saying u get into the French Paradox. Which video is it that gets
into that?
I deduce that Plant Positive is an excellent NIH scientist. He's very
intelligent, has excellent use of speech and can argue succinctly without
smugness.
Did you even watch the video? Are you just trying to get in a free ad here?
Your claims are ridiculous and I doubt you can find any support for them.
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